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Copernicus 2015-10-27 18:41

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1486966)
What's wrong with a tablet being a figment of your imagination?

Well, I've personally been writing real code for Sailfish for some time now; I had hoped I'd be able to try it out on the tablet (the first Sailfish device to receive official sales and support in the entire Western Hemisphere), but it looks like I'll have to go on imagining what it is like for a while longer. :) (Or just give up and work on something else for the next few months.)

mscion 2015-10-27 21:29

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
I guess it's called virtual reality...

Seriously, I'm sorry that you and other developers have to wait so long to see their work come to life on the tablet. A lot of careful thought and effort goes in making apps, at least the good ones, and that effort could have been applied elsewhere. As a user, I'm a little disappointed it has taken so long but it is what it is. I get no joy bashing folks and usually find it counter productive. I'm sure the Jolla folks are doing the best they can. So I'm fine having to wait a month or two longer and having a few laughs along the way...

maxinflixion 2015-10-28 12:56

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Love the new thread title.

Here's to hoping there is an update soon. The spreadsheets floating around have made me wonder just how far down the list I truly am now.

I have enough toys to keep me busy. I have a real excitement for this tablet though.

jib 2015-10-28 18:23

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by maxinflixion (Post 1487027)
Love the new thread title.

It's an improvement, but it should have stopped at "Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet."

I'm displeased with the addition of ", Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination." It's fairly obvious that the Jolla Tablet is being manufactured. Seems like the title is encouraging trolling. Who wrote this? ...oh. :(

pichlo 2015-10-28 18:45

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
C'mon, lighten up a little!

Copernicus 2015-10-28 19:03

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by jib (Post 1487044)
Seems like the title is encouraging trolling. Who wrote this? ...oh. :(

Reminder to self: Never post while grumpy. Never post while grumpy. Never post while grumpy...

pichlo 2015-10-28 19:53

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1487047)
Reminder to self: Never post while grumpy. Never post while grumpy. Never post while grumpy...

What's the point of posting when not grumpy??? You have better things to do!

nieldk 2015-10-28 20:11

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
At least the OS seems to develop.

jib 2015-10-28 20:54

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1487047)
Reminder to self: Never post while grumpy. Never post while grumpy. Never post while grumpy...

:o I just broke this rule! lightening up in 3... 2... 1...

I am buzzing with anticipation to receive my tablet. I check this thread every day hoping that TMO has discovered a vortex and the December wave is shipping in October. I'm going to break my F5 key.

I wish Jolla would let us finalize our orders early.

Fellfrosch 2015-10-29 07:35

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1487057)
At least the OS seems to develop.

... and in my Opinion in the right direction. Saimaa is a really good release.

mosen 2015-10-29 20:15

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Some nice Videos of the tablet by Review Jolla!

DLNA Usage

Hardware quality and the basic user interface

anidel 2015-10-30 11:20

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Would real nice to have an update...first small wave shipped and delivered...now? :/

Dave999 2015-10-30 16:30

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1487150)
Would real nice to have an update...first small wave shipped and delivered...now? :/

No not yet. All 32GB orders in first wave wasn't shipped and they are Jolla's top priority....according to some mail from jolla.

I got new adress. Do I have to contact jolla or can I sort it upon completion?

Copernicus 2015-10-30 17:05

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1487167)
I got new adress. Do I have to contact jolla or can I sort it upon completion?

Yeah, when you get the invite and go to the website to complete your order, you'll be asked to confirm the shipping address. If you've already gone to the website and finalized your order, you'll probably need to submit a ticket to Jolla's help system to make a change. Here's a link to the "Invitations and Delivery FAQ":

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...d-Delivery-FAQ

att 2015-10-30 19:52

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
There was discussion about Jolla already having a good hardware experience because they have released a smart phone. Today there was a news article about a Finnish company named Creoir which developed Marshall's new smart phone [in Finnish]. Here is a small snippet from the article in English:

Quote:

Previously Creoir has been involved in, for example, the development Jolla phone. The company also has a strong background in history with Nokia. Through networks you penetrate to new markets, Väyrynen says.
And Digitoday has a little more [in Finnish]:

Quote:

In addition to other projects Creoir also designed Jolla company's phone, whose Sailfish OS is also based in Meego, developed at Nokia. It was by no means a coincidence.

- It was only natural, because we know the people from Jolla pretty well: I had Jolla's crew as a software team, when I led the development of N9-MeeGo phone at Nokia, Väyrynen tells.
So it might be that Jolla Tablet is actually Jolla's first hardware project directly with an Asian manufacturer.

More about the company at Stuff, Engadget, Digital Trends and Creoir news page.

anidel 2015-10-31 10:38

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1487167)
No not yet. All 32GB orders in first wave wasn't shipped and they are Jolla's top priority....according to some mail from jolla.

I got new adress. Do I have to contact jolla or can I sort it upon completion?

I saw people receiving them, and there weren't that many in the first wave, so surely they've been all shipped?

benny1967 2015-10-31 13:54

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1487194)
I saw people receiving them, and there weren't that many in the first wave, so surely they've been all shipped?

According to Jolla (and the information we know from each other), the factory only produced 64GB versions in the first production run. So those of us who were in the first wave of invitations but had ordered a 32GB model haven't received theirs yet.

(I just realize how misleading the phrase "first wave" is in this context. People use it to describe both the first invitations that Jolla sent to people on Sept. 22nd and the first production run. As the second is a subset of the first, misunderstandings are bound to happen.)

tommo 2015-10-31 14:47

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1487202)
According to Jolla (and the information we know from each other), the factory only produced 64GB versions in the first production run. So those of us who were in the first wave of invitations but had ordered a 32GB model haven't received theirs yet.

(I just realize how misleading the phrase "first wave" is in this context. People use it to describe both the first invitations that Jolla sent to people on Sept. 22nd and the first production run. As the second is a subset of the first, misunderstandings are bound to happen.)

What's confusing also is the guy in the video above has a 32GB :D

mosen 2015-10-31 21:38

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1487203)
What's confusing also is the guy in the video above has a 32GB :D

He got on of the swallowed Tablets that is been shipped around as a review unit :P
That 32gb model is propably one of the final testing units Jolla got from the factory for approval and not part of the first wave!

Btw, he is #8 on the backers.txt, got an invite but also no personal 32gb model, only the one for review.

lupastro 2015-11-01 11:28

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
So....November is here...I am really happy about the invitation I am going to receive tomorrow (/irony) :D

anidel 2015-11-01 11:58

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1487202)
According to Jolla (and the information we know from each other), the factory only produced 64GB versions in the first production run. So those of us who were in the first wave of invitations but had ordered a 32GB model haven't received theirs yet.

(I just realize how misleading the phrase "first wave" is in this context. People use it to describe both the first invitations that Jolla sent to people on Sept. 22nd and the first production run. As the second is a subset of the first, misunderstandings are bound to happen.)

Ordered the full package (64Gb etc) and within one hour or so, still nothing :/

anidel 2015-11-01 11:59

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1487223)
He got on of the swallowed Tablets that is been shipped around as a review unit :P
That 32gb model is propably one of the final testing units Jolla got from the factory for approval and not part of the first wave!

Btw, he is #8 on the backers.txt, got an invite but also no personal 32gb model, only the one for review.

Where is that backers.txt?

Dave999 2015-11-01 12:03

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1487240)
Where is that backers.txt?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0

mikecomputing 2015-11-01 17:43

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lupastro (Post 1487237)
So....November is here...I am really happy about the invitation I am going to receive tomorrow (/irony) :D

There is no second or third wave all is HOAX

pichlo 2015-11-01 18:07

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1487255)
There is no second or third wave all is HOAX

You do not seriously believe that. A girl from a farm in Minessota can afford to do that, a company can't.

peterleinchen 2015-11-01 18:52

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1487256)
You do not seriously believe that. A girl from a farm in Minessota can afford to do that, a company can't.

I also do not believe that.
BUT it seems it feels like that for a lot of people.

pacman 2015-11-01 19:58

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1487256)
You do not seriously believe that. A girl from a farm in Minessota can afford to do that, a company can't.

It's true. The aliens who abducted me last week confirmed it :D

att 2015-11-01 23:17

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1487240)
Where is that backers.txt?

Original data came from IGG's web page. Some people wrote scripts to automate the collection of it. Results of that are available for example here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e0hz00dzrm...ckers.txt?dl=0

mosen also integrated part of that data to his Google spreadsheet for our delight.

gerbick 2015-11-01 23:40

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1487256)
You do not seriously believe that. A girl from a farm in Minessota can afford to do that, a company can't.

meh, who cares where she came from... if it's successful, it's successful.

anidel 2015-11-02 10:33

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
> N: 761, Name: "anidel", profile: "/individuals/5346875", amount: 189

I thought I was earlier in the game...amount is what I've spent? maybe at the beginning, but then I got everything that was on offer...

juiceme 2015-11-02 14:58

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1487305)
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1487256)
You do not seriously believe that. A girl from a farm in Minessota can afford to do that, a company can't.

meh, who cares where she came from... if it's successful, it's successful.

Nuthin' against minnesotians, but she's successiful as a scam artist, I wouldn't take her as a role model really... :(

juiceme 2015-11-02 15:02

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1487327)
> N: 761, Name: "anidel", profile: "/individuals/5346875", amount: 189

I thought I was earlier in the game...amount is what I've spent? maybe at the beginning, but then I got everything that was on offer...

Yes, I also thought I was a lot earlier but turns out my position is actually #799. Bummer.
I also updated "all da works" later, but the sum quoted there is the original donation.

gerbick 2015-11-02 17:32

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1487350)
Nuthin' against minnesotians, but she's successiful as a scam artist, I wouldn't take her as a role model really... :(

Given that a fellow TMO'er has also disappeared, my trust in these things is relatively low while my skepticism remains high. Always.

Whether or not she's a girl from Minnesota or some guy from Finland, the possibility of things being delivered is usually very low. Oh well...

pichlo 2015-11-02 19:17

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1487361)
Whether or not she's a girl from Minnesota or some guy from Finland, the possibility of things being delivered is usually very low. Oh well...

OMG. Do I need to spell it out? Her gender or a place of origin has nothing to do with it. The point is that that particular IGG campaign was an obvious scam. She could pull it off only because no one knew her and it did not matter if no one trusted her again. There is no comparison between that tablet campaign and this one.

gerbick 2015-11-02 21:02

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1487364)
OMG. Do I need to spell it out? Her gender or a place of origin has nothing to do with it. The point is that that particular IGG campaign was an obvious scam. She could pull it off only because no one knew her and it did not matter if no one trusted her again. There is no comparison between that tablet campaign and this one.

Calm down dude. Absolutely nobody is comparing this failed tablet campaign to the Jolla Tablet campaign. Furthest thing from my mind at least.

My point was simple; one you overlooked. Who ****ing cares where they're from? If it can be done, sounds realistic, actually doesn't sound like a scam; so be it.

But if it sounds like a scam, or is a scam... then I hope that nobody gets affected or drawn into that black hole of failure. That's the unfortunate risk you take with anything online from people that you might not, or might know.

That tablet campaign, never heard of it. If I had, I would have warned folks. Jolla tablet, I signed up and do not regret it one bit.

Anyway, call off the outrage. It's not needed.

Dave999 2015-11-03 11:25

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
What happened with the refund option? Sent mail to jolla - no response!

pichlo 2015-11-03 12:29

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1487368)
Absolutely nobody is comparing this failed tablet campaign to the Jolla Tablet campaign.

Are you sure? So please, read things in context ;)

benny1967 2015-11-03 12:35

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by NokiaN9KickYourAss (Post 1487382)
What happened with the refund option? Sent mail to jolla - no response!

Mhmh... you did read the informaton about the refunds, though, didn't you?

Quote:

...we are looking into a refund option. More info will be shared about this later, and please bear with us as we will only be able to handle such cases after we have shipped all the tablets.

gerbick 2015-11-03 13:31

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1487387)
Are you sure? So please, read things in context ;)

We didn't read the same thing. A hoax is a hoax. This is just a set of delays and some angry folks. Two different things.

Dave999 2015-11-03 14:58

Re: Discussion over the Design, Features, and Rollout of Jolla's new Tablet, Assuming that it isn't a Figment of our Collective Imagination
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1487388)
Mhmh... you did read the informaton about the refunds, though, didn't you?

Let's assume, you get your tablet during November.

Last tablet will be out when?

Yes, Joke!


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