Originally Posted by LameDuck (Post 1529473)

No, it simply isn't. Unless they release it next week (unlikely, unless I read the Jolla Statement wrong) they don't meet their announced time target (release to customers by the end of Q2/2017). Imagine a supplier who announced to deliver by the end of June comes to you one week before the due date and says: "Come on, don't be so impatient, I will tell you something next week anyways." Even if this comparison is flawed - for me todays statement is one more proof that they are unable to communicate professionally to the community.

Originally Posted by LameDuck (Post 1529473)

The people who are not satisfied are a minority by now. The big majority has turned their backs to Jolla and Sailfish a long time ago. The minority who is dissatisfied has every reaason to be so. There were so many setbacks in the last few years. I don't think I need to mention them, but missed timelines and bad communication to the community was an issue in most of them.

Originally Posted by JoOppen (Post 1529472)

A professor of me once taught us what he learned after moving from northern Germany to the rhine area:

When he ordered printing of his scripts he got a delivery date confirmed by the printer. On the day the scripts were due he went to the printer to pick up his printed scripts. However, he only got a vague explanation about other more urgent matter and a new date of delivery.

What he learned was, that the first scheduled date is an optimistic estimation of a day where the printer expected to be able to name a more reliable date of delivery.

After the professor has learned this lesson he had quite a relaxed living in the rhine area.

Maybe one of the Jolla guys once lived in the rhine area ...

Originally Posted by ka9yhd (Post 1529479)

Nice story but its a lame excuse. If give someone your word on a delivery date and do not deliver on time then your word is meaningless.

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529475)

A week is nothing. We have soon waited 3 years. THREE years so I guess we can handle a week.

I'm not intressted in buying anything next week unless I'm a lucky random Refund winner in game of ...

Yeah. A week is nothing. They could atleast said a month. That would have been more of a challenge:D

Originally Posted by meloferz (Post 1529501)

Good for you that you're only waiting 3 years... I almost waiting 5 years for a phone that can be used here in Paraguay (South America) running fully Sailfish OS
with dalvik. Hope the the waiting for me will end next week 🤗

Enviado desde mi Xperia Z2 mediante Tapatalk

Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529504)

Just wondering.. How much does exactly Jolla owe you?

Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529504)

Just wondering.. How much does exactly Jolla owe you?

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529502)

3 years, 5 years. It's all the same. You might get a sailfish port if you have an Xperia X next week. I hope you will get what you hoping for but I doubt this port is production ready bundled with Alien. I think it's more of a glorified demo port.

Hope they charge some money for it to boost the random Refund roulette, but it's more likely to be free due to the basic qualities of the product.

Any way. Cool week ahead. 5 years and a week. How will you celebrate if they release a port for you?

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529506)

Me? a reason to trust them.

(not sure about the exact amount 105 USD?)