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freemangordon 2013-07-13 16:42

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
The new update is out, changelog in the first post.

Tschaka 2013-07-13 18:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1358674)
The new update is out, changelog in the first post.

Thanks for all your efforts.

For me it says
"Unable to update 'Maemo 5 Community SSU Package(thumb)'
Conflict with application packages: hildon-thumbnail (3.0.51+0m5)"

What to do? Note: I didn't upgrade to the CSSU Testing 8.2 but instead waited for the new CSSU Thumb. Maybe that's the reason?

Cheers and thanks!

praveenchand 2013-07-13 19:01

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
For me it says "Unable to download 'Maemo 5 Community SSU Package(thumb)'.Application package not found,"

I actually downgraded to thumb version few days back.

freemangordon 2013-07-13 19:09

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
yeah, sorry, missed some package dependencies in the -mp thingie, should be fixed now

fw190 2013-07-13 19:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Update went ok.
2,53mb less on board ;)

Thanks!

freemangordon 2013-07-13 19:26

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by praveenchand (Post 1358705)
For me it says "Unable to download 'Maemo 5 Community SSU Package(thumb)'.Application package not found,"

I actually downgraded to thumb version few days back.

Hmm, why did you do that? Any particular reason, besides the obvious (memory usage and performance)?

praveenchand 2013-07-13 19:34

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1358715)
Hmm, why did you do that? Any particular reason, besides the obvious (memory usage and performance)?

of course performance, i feel comfortable with thumb version :-)

panjgoori 2013-07-13 20:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Updated to latest CSSU-thumb without any problem. Great work freemangordon. CSSU-Thumb gives N900 a new life. Very smooth.

Android_808 2013-07-13 21:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
doe this fix/avoid the reported issue with ringtones not playing back or playing incorrectly in latest testing release?

freemangordon 2013-07-13 22:53

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1358735)
doe this fix/avoid the reported issue with ringtones not playing back or playing incorrectly in latest testing release?

the version of pulseaudio which brought problems in CSSU-T is in CSSU-thumb for 6 months or something

Android_808 2013-07-14 07:51

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
done update all (T8.2+thumb1, enabler and lock applet). all appeared to go ok. rebooted automatically but no orientation lock applet present. had to reinstall from ham

Tschaka 2013-07-14 10:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1358709)
yeah, sorry, missed some package dependencies in the -mp thingie, should be fixed now

Thanks! Just wanted to say that it works now, like charm!

freemangordon 2013-07-14 17:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1358792)
done update all (T8.2+thumb1, enabler and lock applet). all appeared to go ok. rebooted automatically but no orientation lock applet present. had to reinstall from ham

Yeah, that is the new CSSU-T policy for the orientation lock applet

Android_808 2013-07-14 18:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
ok. thanks for clearing that up. Nothing really to report so far, update seems fine.

toxaris 2013-07-14 20:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Updated, worked like a charm

gaiosgf 2013-07-14 20:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I did the update but the mobile does not open.why?

freemangordon 2013-07-14 21:20

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gaiosgf (Post 1358969)
I did the update but the mobile does not open.why?

Would you rephrase as I don't understand what the problem is.

guilledoc 2013-07-14 21:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
upgraded and phone didn't boot
I've allready reflashed with backupmenu so I don't know what the problem was
I'll wait to reupgrade

panjgoori 2013-07-14 22:21

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guilledoc (Post 1358983)
upgraded and phone didn't boot
I've allready reflashed with backupmenu so I don't know what the problem was
I'll wait to reupgrade

i didn't faced this problem. even this time i don't have KP installed.

player_one 2013-07-15 08:32

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Maybe someone already asked it, but I couldn't find an answer... I have CSSU Stable, can I install CSSU testing + thumb?

freemangordon 2013-07-15 10:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by player_one (Post 1359064)
Maybe someone already asked it, but I couldn't find an answer... I have CSSU Stable, can I install CSSU testing + thumb?

Yes.

ten chars

llucax 2013-07-15 14:36

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guilledoc (Post 1358983)
upgraded and phone didn't boot
I've allready reflashed with backupmenu so I don't know what the problem was
I'll wait to reupgrade

I had a similar problem with the upgrade, but my device booted. The window to enter the password was odly aligned to the top instead of the common aligment to the bottom and then most of the items in the applet menu were missing (same as when hildon-status-something crashes, that only a safe set of applets are loaded). Some icons were missing, and apt didn't work (I got a NFS stale handler for /var/cache/apt/pkgsources.bin, even after restarting again). Also the first time it booted I didn't get the message about upgrade successful. I restored the backup I wisely did with backup menu, tried again and all worked perfect.

I didn't know what happen in the first try, I guess maybe the phone was rebooted before completion (I wasn't paying attention to the phone while it was being upgrade). My phone also have some internal memory errors so I think it could be related to that.

Anyway, is working fine now! Thanks for another great update!

sLumPia 2013-07-15 15:03

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I notice that X terminal now affected by screen orientation (usually always in landscape mode), is it because the new update?
And may I ask who really want a portrait X terminal?

Wikiwide 2013-07-15 15:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sLumPia (Post 1359115)
I notice that X terminal now affected by screen orientation (usually always in landscape mode), is it because the new update?
And may I ask who really want a portrait X terminal?

Anybody and everybody. I changed "Up" and "Down" shortcuts to "U" and "D", for compactness. And I use the smallest font size possible. Maybe, it's harsh on eyes, but it allows to get long lines of text in the screen, whatever the orientation. If you use large font, even landscape orientation is not wide enough.
You can edit transitions.ini to add X-Terminal to blacklist - list of apps which should never auto-rotate.
Best wishes.

freemangordon 2013-07-15 18:02

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llucax (Post 1359111)
... My phone also have some internal memory errors so I think it could be related to that.

You can bet on it.

Seems lots of devices are suffering from corrupted fs :( (See cssu-testing thread). Hopefully newer e2fsprogs will be included in the next update, along with fs check on bootup.

Estel 2013-07-15 22:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1359165)
along with fs check on bootup.

:eek: You (cssu) really don't like people's filesystems that much? Updated e2fsprogs would be nice (IIRC, I've suggested it over a year ago to CSSU), but AFAIK it *won't* fix all issues fsck have with flash medium.

Last time I checked fsck on boot was *reason* for most corruptions people were experiencing, not it's source. At least for me, after editing it out from every and each maemo's startup script where possible (some months ago), I haven't got single problem like that (except for situation when my device banged floor during heavy I/O operations, resulting in battery traveling opposite direction than device - but, that's to be expected, and even then, data loss wasn't serious - one config file and few thumbnails).

I just hope that this change will be painlessly revertible for users.

/Estel

sLumPia 2013-07-15 23:41

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 1359120)
Anybody and everybody. I changed "Up" and "Down" shortcuts to "U" and "D", for compactness. And I use the smallest font size possible. Maybe, it's harsh on eyes, but it allows to get long lines of text in the screen, whatever the orientation. If you use large font, even landscape orientation is not wide enough.
You can edit transitions.ini to add X-Terminal to blacklist - list of apps which should never auto-rotate.
Best wishes.

Wow...Sorry if I offend you, it's just I never though of using a portrait X-Terminal.
As you said, sometimes even a landscape orientation is not enough. So if I really need to edit a very long file, I will just do it on my pc.

Also, transition.ini already contain this line (I don't know if this is the default CSSU transition.ini, but I never edit this file):
Code:

blacklist = mediaplayer osso-xterm worldclock image-viewer camera-ui Calendar
But X-Terminal still rotate.
I have to add this line to osso-xterm.desktop, to make X-Terminal autorotation stop:
Code:

X-CSSU-Force-Landscape=true

freemangordon 2013-07-16 00:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1359228)
:eek: You (cssu) really don't like people's filesystems that much?

Yeah, our hate is driving us, no doubt.

Quote:

Updated e2fsprogs would be nice (IIRC, I've suggested it over a year ago to CSSU), but AFAIK it *won't* fix all issues fsck have with flash medium.
Sure it won't, but it will be way better than current situation where I have to boot into rescueos and run e2fskc from there, as stock is refusing to fix my /home. Happened twice for the last month, without a particular reason. I guess corruption gets added through time to the point the broken /home fs prevents normal bootup. So, IMO it is better to have e2fsck (upstream version) run on every boot, than a bootloop on every system upgrade because of a corrupted fs(before upgrade).

Quote:

Last time I checked fsck on boot was *reason* for most corruptions people were experiencing, not it's source. At least for me, after editing it out from every and each maemo's startup script where possible (some months ago), I haven't got single problem like that (except for situation when my device banged floor during heavy I/O operations, resulting in battery traveling opposite direction than device - but, that's to be expected, and even then, data loss wasn't serious - one config file and few thumbnails).
Sure, stock e2fsck has its bugs. But saying that it corrupts a healthy fs is nonsense. Rather it is unable to correctly fix the already corrupted fs.

BTW ubuntu LTS' e2fsprogs is in cssu-devel for a couple of weeks, do you have it installed on your device? Because I have it, along with enabled fsck on every boot. No problems since I did that.

Quote:

I just hope that this change will be painlessly revertible for users.

/Estel
The same way you can "painlessly" enable fsck on every boot now. Via /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite.

dlb1991 2013-07-16 00:34

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Would just like to say thank you for all the hard work and keeping this IMO still one of the best devices out there. I also have the new HTC One but the N900 is still the device people are impressed with even with the low screen resolution and relatively large screen size

Estel 2013-07-16 03:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1359250)
So, IMO it is better to have e2fsck (upstream version) run on every boot, than a bootloop on every system upgrade because of a corrupted fs(before upgrade).

That's true, if...

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1359250)
The same way you can "painlessly" enable fsck on every boot now. Via /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite.

...which is absolutely OK. I interpreted your info about "fsck on every boot" as indication, that quoted mechanism is going to change (again) in next release. I see, now, that you rather mean making fsck'ing with correct e2fsprogs as default action, with same way of controlling it as in current release. It sounds like best of "both worlds".

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1359250)
Sure, stock e2fsck has its bugs. But saying that it corrupts a healthy fs is nonsense. Rather it is unable to correctly fix the already corrupted fs.

I never said that, but if you got it this way, I might have used wrong words. Of course it wasn't affecting healthy filesystem (and was even able to fix minor things like group mismatchs - segfaulted on more serious tasks, "only").

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1359250)
BTW ubuntu LTS' e2fsprogs is in cssu-devel for a couple of weeks, do you have it installed on your device? Because I have it, along with enabled fsck on every boot. No problems since I did that.

Nah, I don't have guts to install cssu-devel on my everyday device, and no time to play with spare ones, lately (hardware modif. eats my rare bits of free time, nowadays). It's good to hear that it works fine, nevertheless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1359250)
Yeah, our hate is driving us, no doubt.

http://img1.ilovegraffiti.de/media/u...memorehate.jpg

;)

/Estel

AliasXZ 2013-07-16 08:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Hey all

I did the upgrade to the latest cssu-thumb from the one before and it killed my N900, won't boot.

Having to do a reflash tonight. :eek:
--

EDIT

After a rootfs reflash, the upgrade went smooth, flashed KP52 afterwards.

:)

foobar 2013-07-16 11:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llucax (Post 1359111)
I had a similar problem with the upgrade, but my device booted. The window to enter the password was odly aligned to the top instead of the common aligment to the bottom and then most of the items in the applet menu were missing (same as when hildon-status-something crashes, that only a safe set of applets are loaded). Some icons were missing, and apt didn't work (I got a NFS stale handler for /var/cache/apt/pkgsources.bin, even after restarting again). Also the first time it booted I didn't get the message about upgrade successful. I restored the backup I wisely did with backup menu, tried again and all worked perfect.

I didn't know what happen in the first try, I guess maybe the phone was rebooted before completion (I wasn't paying attention to the phone while it was being upgrade). My phone also have some internal memory errors so I think it could be related to that.

Anyway, is working fine now! Thanks for another great update!

Pretty much the same thing happened to my device. It boots but lots of files in /home can't be read and are now 'Stale NFS handles'.

Mitrigol 2013-07-16 11:45

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I also did the upgrade and everythign went fine.
AH no, you are right, as i was connected to power supply and i let the keyboard open when it did reboot, i got it doing a boot loop.

But once cable removed, keyboard closed and start it properly, everythign went fine.

And i can get my mail from gmail!!! I didn't care enough (or was i lazy? :) ) to solve it myself using the deb provided in CSSU test thread.

Thks a lot freemangordon to port CSSU test in thumb.

shubell 2013-07-16 12:37

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
upgrade went fine! Tnx again for new version ;)

marmistrz 2013-07-16 14:35

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foobar (Post 1359348)
Pretty much the same thing happened to my device. It boots but lots of files in /home can't be read and are now 'Stale NFS handles'.

Probably a crash during update.

jukk 2013-07-16 14:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Thanks a lot. Upgrade went fine here.

guilledoc 2013-07-16 16:33

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Hi tried again to do the update through HAM
I only get a black screen after the update any suggestion

Vlad_on_the_road 2013-07-16 18:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guilledoc (Post 1359422)
Hi tried again to do the update through HAM
I only get a black screen after the update any suggestion

Same here. I get black screen too after updating through HAM. Could it be related to kp52 I installed some weeks ago ? I never booted on it though.

guilledoc 2013-07-16 19:38

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I also have kernel power 52 and using it without prblem all the time

stlpaul 2013-07-16 19:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Mine would not boot after update, reflashed kp52 kernel and now it works again.


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