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dirkvl 2015-07-23 11:59
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1477659)
Any ETA for the missing keypads Dirk (fixed AZERTY, Stealth) or still nothing from the manufacturer?

Being in the first 70 preorderers (out of more than 1200) and yet in the last 32 unlucky ones is a torture. :D

Please, if you have no ETA yet, could you please post it here in the thread when you have it? I check regularly IRC but it would be more convenient to just know that the info will be here when available, instead of wondering indefinitely, and bothering you every n days on IRC.
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/23xkzslgbaidpfd/azerty.JPG

Kabouik 2015-07-23 12:00
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Good news, thanks! Was it today?

dirkvl 2015-07-23 12:13
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1477664)
Good news, thanks! Was it today?
y

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Feathers McGraw 2015-07-23 12:31
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Got my funkyOH shipping email today (UK, qwerty, blue and black). So excited!

tetris11_ 2015-07-23 12:55
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Me too! (UK, qwerty, can't remember(!)). FRICKIN' STOKED

yawuji 2015-07-23 15:00
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
I got shipping mail as well (UK Qwerty) ... Excited ....

epninety 2015-07-23 15:14
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
:( Slightly less patiently waiting now :(

mscion 2015-07-23 15:59
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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My cat "Pumpkin" is going to sit in this box and wait by the door until his TOHKBD arrives....

tetris11_ 2015-07-23 16:02
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
I'm just skip work for a few days. More or less on speaking terms with the postman...

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...5d32761292.jpg

Mikkosssss 2015-07-23 16:32
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
My TOHKBD arrived today :D
Finland, black/red/carbon.

It looks very high quality. Software installed without any problems. 3D printed parts feels bit rought and I hope that they will smoothern over time.
Keys feels nice but I have to get used to this layout as it is very wide.

Written on my TOHKBD.

Oxxyria 2015-07-24 09:37
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Recieved mine yesterday.
(Yellow, alumined, carbon, scandic) Finland.

It's really good. Only two buttons that need a bit more pressure to register, but that will most likely improve over time. Alt-tab is awesome (although whatsup (native) doesn't show). I'm really impressed by the quality.

Yellow was probably not the best option, since the marks for the pogopins are already showing (black lines), but that's just a minor issue. Can order a new case if need-be :)

Thank you all for a nice product! :D

minimos 2015-07-24 10:40
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oxxyria (Post 1477779)
Yellow was probably not the best option, since the marks for the pogopins are already showing (black lines)
Well, mine is black and the backside looks already like a cat was clasping for life :)

stefanmohl 2015-07-26 15:02
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
For everyone with hard-to-press keys, I made a thread over at together.jolla.com to collect ideas and solutions to the problem!

stefanmohl 2015-07-26 19:32
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Well, the TJC-thread has already come up with a solution to the unresponsive key-problem for me! All it required was pushing the keypad around, as described here: https://together.jolla.com/question/...sponsive-keys/

tetris11_ 2015-07-27 07:13
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Still waiting on that postman ....
@yawuji,@epninety,@feathers mcgraw - did you guys get yours over the weekend?

edit: btw, congrats guys on reaching such an easy solution to the key problem so fast!

Tsippaduida 2015-07-27 07:54
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Got mine on Friday (Scandic: red/black/curly birch). All keys seem to be working, few are a bit tighter that the rest, but not enough to make me tear it apart.

One keyboard (#254) should reach Tampere today or perhaps tomorrow (mailed from Helsinki on Friday evening).

Feathers McGraw 2015-07-27 07:56
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tetris11_ (Post 1478031)
Still waiting on that postman ....
@yawuji,@epninety,@feathers mcgraw - did you guys get yours over the weekend?
Nope. I'm hoping it'll come today, and that the package is small enough to fit through my letter box (a "sorry we missed you" slip would be too cruel!)

yawuji 2015-07-27 09:08
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tetris11_ (Post 1478031)
Still waiting on that postman ....
@yawuji,@epninety,@feathers mcgraw - did you guys get yours over the weekend?

edit: btw, congrats guys on reaching such an easy solution to the key problem so fast!
Nope, they have not delivered it yet. I am hoping it will be delivered today. I am super excited ... :)

epninety 2015-07-27 09:11
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tetris11_ (Post 1478031)
Still waiting on that postman ....
@yawuji,@epninety,@feathers mcgraw - did you guys get yours over the weekend?
Mine was here waiting for me when I got in the office a few minutes ago :D:D:D

Have opened the box, but nothing more yet... got a busy day, no time to play :mad:

yawuji 2015-07-27 11:14
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yawuji (Post 1478040)
Nope, they have not delivered it yet. I am hoping it will be delivered today. I am super excited ... :)
No luck for me today, It didnt come in today's post :( .. Have to wait until tomorrow, I guess ...

zagrim 2015-07-27 13:37
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanmohl (Post 1478009)
Well, the TJC-thread has already come up with a solution to the unresponsive key-problem for me! All it required was pushing the keypad around, as described here: https://together.jolla.com/question/...sponsive-keys/
Good that it fixed everything for you (and to many others, too), but even though I've been doing that, too, I haven't reached perfection yet. All of the three affected keys can be easily got to "click" without having text output :P But then again, it's much better already now than originally :)

stefanmohl 2015-07-27 13:48
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Well the TJC thread is still open, there might be other solutions that remain to be found! Let's keep experimenting and sharing the knowledge, and we will all be happy campers!

In fact, I do have one key ('5') that still is slightly off from perfect. But the others were so much worse before that I didn't even notice that one in the beginning!

epninety 2015-07-27 22:17
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
First chance to play properly with my tohkbd, and I think its excellent :)

Some keys seem more sensitive than others but also a bit variable... sometimes works better than other times. All work though, will play with it for a few days before deciding if it needs any further attention.
Already a huge improvement on the on-screen version imho.

rooster13 2015-07-28 05:29
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
My CTRL key started to jam even the key is not pressed and the indicator light is not on. Seems like it goes on constantly and I need to press it once to be able to write. The kbd becomes usable for a moment until it happens again.

Anyone else having the same?

kimmoli 2015-07-28 08:30
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
install mce-tools package, and run

evdev_trace -t

and check is there extra CTRL key presses... look for something like this:

Code:
...EV_KEY - 0x01d/KEY_LEFTCTRL - 1
...EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
...EV_KEY - 0x01d/KEY_LEFTCTRL - 0
...EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
Tohkbd is typically /dev/input/event13

deryo 2015-07-28 09:40
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1478036)
I'm hoping it'll come today, and that the package is small enough to fit through my letter box
You can test it: The box is ~ 2.8 x 15.8 x 23.2 cm big. :D

sunsurfer 2015-07-28 10:45
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Mine arrived today (UK). Not installed it yet but looks lovely. I might lightly varnish the walnut back.

dukenukem 2015-07-28 10:52
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Mine just arrived today. Finally it feels like a big n900 just as it should. It is working great, except the 'a'-key requires a bit more pressure but you could fix that as described here https://together.jolla.com/question/...sponsive-keys/

sfb 2015-07-28 11:29
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Mine arrived too to day. Everything is working well, got a wrong backplate Kelo instead of carbon, but i think i'm fine with it.

Thanks to Dirk and the Team for all the effort!

yawuji 2015-07-28 11:57
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
This wait is killing me :(. @Feathers McGraw and tetris11_ , have you received yours..

Kabouik 2015-07-28 13:43
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Waiting mine (actually ordered two) too Yawuji, I know how it feels. :O

Feathers McGraw 2015-07-28 14:19
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yawuji (Post 1478136)
This wait is killing me :(. @Feathers McGraw and tetris11_ , have you received yours..
Nope. Glad I'm not the only one (not that I'd wish a delay on you!)

rooster13 2015-07-28 17:23
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kimmoli (Post 1478120)
install mce-tools package, and run

evdev_trace -t

and check is there extra CTRL key presses... look for something like this:

Code:
...EV_KEY - 0x01d/KEY_LEFTCTRL - 1
...EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
...EV_KEY - 0x01d/KEY_LEFTCTRL - 0
...EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
Tohkbd is typically /dev/input/event13
Thanks kimmoli.

Here's my output of the situation:

Code:
/dev/input/event13: 36977.441 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 1
/dev/input/event13: 36977.466 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36977.466 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36980.973 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 1
/dev/input/event13: 36980.999 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36980.999 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36984.558 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x020/KEY_D - 1
/dev/input/event13: 36984.583 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x020/KEY_D - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36984.583 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event11: 36984.707 - 0x03/EV_ABS - 0x028/ABS_MISC - 4
/dev/input/event11: 36984.707 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36990.020 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01d/KEY_LEFTCTRL - 1
/dev/input/event13: 36990.046 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36994.077 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01d/KEY_LEFTCTRL - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36994.102 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36996.945 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 1
/dev/input/event13: 36996.971 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36996.971 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36999.036 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 1
/dev/input/event13: 36999.061 - 0x01/EV_KEY - 0x01e/KEY_A - 0
/dev/input/event13: 36999.061 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
/dev/input/event11: 37003.504 - 0x03/EV_ABS - 0x028/ABS_MISC - 5
/dev/input/event11: 37003.504 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0
I really don't see an issue there. Do you?

sfb 2015-07-28 20:54
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Finally found the time to play around with the keyboard, except for the known issues as äö etc on qwertz i have two questions:

What about the german 'ß', how would i type it?

and

Apps from OpenRepos don't show in the taskswitchter. Known issue? What can be done?

santeira 2015-07-28 21:16
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sfb (Post 1478171)
Finally found the time to play around with the keyboard, except for the known issues as äö etc on qwertz i have two questions:

What about the german 'ß', how would i type it?

and

Apps from OpenRepos don't show in the taskswitchter. Known issue? What can be done?

hey sfb,

for "ß", it's located right from the spacebar, between shift and fn key, together with the @ icon. But isn't yet working, so i assume, and hope, it will be fixed by time...

:eek: didn't even noticed it...there are really some openrepo apps, that weren't shown in the taskswitcher. Thanks for that. :o

yawuji 2015-07-28 23:02
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Not sure whether this has been posted here before. A review of TOHKBD2 is available in youtube. Here is the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFqVvww_zQM

sunsurfer 2015-07-29 07:07
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Where are the instructions for installing the relevant software? Or is the keyboard supposed to work automatically once assembled?

I've assembled it. Correctly as far as I know as there are no assembly instructions either.

Feathers McGraw 2015-07-29 08:50
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsurfer (Post 1478191)
Where are the instructions for installing the relevant software? Or is the keyboard supposed to work automatically once assembled?

I've assembled it. Correctly as far as I know as there are no assembly instructions either.

The phone should detect the keyboard with nfc and automatically download the software, maybe you have a NFC problem. You can download manually, see here:

https://together.jolla.com/question/96836/tohkbd-faq/

tetris11_ 2015-07-29 11:31
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
@yawuji - no nothing yet :(

sfb 2015-07-29 21:42
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Thanks santeira. Didn't expect it to be there. But once you told me i wonder how i missed it.

And it's true some OpenRepos Apps seem to show in Taskswitcher others like PoorMaps don't.


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