maemo.org - Talk - Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

If you don't want to wait or reboot, you have to force refresh the Software Updates app by sliding down (a small spinning circle appears while it's doing the check). I had to go through five or six updates before getting that 34.3.A.0.228 thing.

p.s.: bye bye, Android! SailfishX running on my F5121. Yay!!

trashHeap

2017-10-11 20:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1536475)

Decided not to wait for the refund question and tried to buy SX with the voucher. Both my cards were declined! What gives...

I can confirm a prepaid travelex mastercard works.

https://www.travelex.com

deprecated

2017-10-11 20:43

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1536483)

Hmm, are they joking? Why the hell I bought it then???
Well - as a final resort I can install OmniRom and give it to my wife...

It'll work in the future. Besides, it would probably be trivial to get it working with something like hostapd. I'll try my hand at it later tonight when I get the software installed, and I'll update the thread with progress.

jukk	2017-10-11 20:50

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Happily running Sailfish here on Xperia. Flashed from Linux. The main issue I had was to be aware of the difference between flash mode and fastboot mode (Volume down and Volume up). Some guides mix it up.

Edit. The first problem I had was that shop.jolla.com complained that I was in the wrong country on my cable internet! I had to share internet connection from a phone to buy and download. I hate geo restrictions because they do not work! :mad:

MartinK

2017-10-11 20:50

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1536448)

tinkered with 'parted' and now my 64GB has the following

I don't really get this - why do you want to have a smaller system partition ? I've already hit the other limitation - the system partition holds installed software and fills up fast once you install some more stuff (and especially some packages not really optimized for mobile use, like emacs, for example). So I rather welcome a big root partition, that to enlarge an already pretty big data partition (& you can still easily extend that with an uSD card).

mariusmssj

2017-10-11 21:01

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Oh looking at Sony website it seems that dual sim F5122 is not supported by EMMA

lantern

2017-10-11 21:11

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1536490)

I don't really get this - why do you want to have a smaller system partition ?

Because that system partition is from android. In SFOS it is mounted to /fimage (AFAIR they keep factory reset images there). Which uses only 1.4GB out of android's 8GB

Android's /data partition in SFOS becomes LVM, which houses both root (/) and /home

Code:

/dev/sailfish/root    2.4G  1.3G  1.1G  55% /

/dev/sailfish/home     53G  353M   52G   1% /home



$ devel-su pvs

  PV              VG       Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree

  /dev/mmcblk0p51 sailfish lvm2 a--  55.70g    0

PS Extending root / is another story. It can be done any moment - advantages of LVM.

m4r0v3r

2017-10-11 21:21

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1536483)

Hmm, are they joking? Why the hell I bought it then???
Well - as a final resort I can install OmniRom and give it to my wife...

have you seen the fix for it?

https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish...ptation_Status

its not ideal i know but two scripts could be all you really need.

virgi26

2017-10-11 21:42

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it's ridiculous! 4 hours and android still installing uptdates o_O

paulwk

2017-10-11 22:05

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by herdem09 (Post 1536476)

Gps is fast

Can you please tell me which application should be used for GPS on the official Xperia X build? I don't see either Jolla maps like with the Jolla C or HereWeGo for Aqua Fish available. Is there an official or recommended GPS/Satnav app?

Thanks!

mrsellout

2017-10-11 22:31

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by virgi26 (Post 1536496)

it's ridiculous! 4 hours and android still installing uptdates o_O

If you read the unofficial linux guide, there's a link to the latest firmware, that you can download and flash yourself.

https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.ph...2&goto=newpost

nupdyxa

2017-10-11 22:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Hello,
I would appreciate some clarification, before I upgrade my X.
Just downloaded the SF zip file and getting ready to update my F5121, which was previously bootloader unlocked (code from Sony). Currently, the phone is running Android 6.0.1 (marshmallow). My questions are:
1. Do I need to upgrade to Android 34.3.A.0.228 first, as per SF upgrade guide, or I can just flash SF image, using fastboot command (under Win 7) over the AOS 6.0.1?
2. If Android needs to be upgraded to 34.3.X.Y.Z first, can I use an Androxyde tool, instead of EMMA tool, as I already used the first one to flash MM 6.0.1?
3. Is it a good idea to create a recovery partition (TWRP) on the phone, prior to flashing anything? Will it persist over 34.3.X.Y.Z/SFOS flashing?
Many thanks for your help.

richie

2017-10-11 23:04

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by nupdyxa (Post 1536502)

I can't answer all your questions, but I was at the MM 6.0.1 stage and tried Flashtool to 34.3.A.0.228, but just before flashing it said something was missing, RESET-NON-SECURE-ADB data not in script, do you want to continue Y/N. So I stopped there. I have now unlocked bootloader and using Emma to update to 34.3.A.0.228, though it only offered me Nordic version, but I assume this doesn't matter, I hope.

ajalkane

2017-10-11 23:35

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Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1536450)

2. Does camera hardware button work?

It works. But perhaps not how you or I would want to. If you have the camera application on screen, pressing the hardware button takes a picture. But if you don't have the camera application active on screen it does nothing.

So depending on your needs, yes or no.

richie

2017-10-12 00:01

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Hi all

Did anyone get this message during flashing of Sailfish

"The system cannot find the drive specified."

What does it mean?

Rich

meloferz

2017-10-12 00:17

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by richie (Post 1536505)

Hi all

Did anyone get this message during flashing of Sailfish

"The system cannot find the drive specified."

What does it mean?

Rich

Hapenned to me but i ignored. Something weird that happen when I hear a voice message from Whatsapp is that vibrates constantly, is it a know bug? Someone face this too?

Enviado desde Sailfish OS desde mi Xperia X

richie

2017-10-12 00:28

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Whilst trying to understand message "The system cannot find the drive specified" (I think it is from windows), I spotted other devices mentioned in windows script,

echo Searching a device with vendor id '%vendorid%'..

:: Ensure that we are flashing right device
:: F5121 - Xperia X
:: F5122 - Xperia X Dual SIM
:: F5321 - Xperia X Compact

richie

2017-10-12 00:34

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1536504)

I think Android behaved in the same way too.

deprecated

2017-10-12 00:49

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Sweet, I got it purchased (in US, that was a debacle!) and downloaded. Running the Emma junk now because mine came with the old OS. Had already flashed the community build before. We'll see how it goes!

meloferz

2017-10-12 01:01

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by meloferz (Post 1536506)

Solved disabling vibration :/

Enviado desde Sailfish OS desde mi Xperia X

deprecated

2017-10-12 01:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

The APN settings don't stick after a reboot (if you have to change them). Please see my fix that works on the community build http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=93

MartinK

2017-10-12 02:47

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by paulwk (Post 1536499)

You definitely want OSM Scout Server + modRana or Poor Maps. That gives you offline map rendering, routing and POI search with global coverage. :)

Quite a bit of work went into all this. ;)

Corresponding threads:
OSM Scout Server
modRana
Poor Maps

herdem09

2017-10-12 05:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by paulwk (Post 1536499)

Well i used here maps on android to test. I will move to osm as MartinK stated above.

meet.vino

2017-10-12 05:21

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Hi,
Can anyone having Official Sailfish X installed on F5121 device post some pics taken by the front n rear cameras?

Manatus

2017-10-12 05:33

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Except for the installation process SailfishX feels great.

New ambient looks very good, it's smooth, has lots of mem (no swap!), virtual keyboard sounds and vibration work as they should and there is Android support. Me happy.

I might still switch to Compact when one emerges because of size (and I don't need Android support _that_ much).

Regarding unlocking process of Xperia X:
As always has been the case in the past, even Sony's own instructions claim that one has to enable USB debugging mode under Developer Settings in Android. However, unlocking does not work with that; you have to select OEM unlocking.

LouisDK

2017-10-12 06:05

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If I buy a license will it be locked to my account or can I transfer (eg. in the event of selling my device)?
If I buy a license but get a new phone can I then transfer it to the new phone? :)

acrux

2017-10-12 06:31

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1536495)

have you seen the fix for it?

https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish...ptation_Status

its not ideal i know but two scripts could be all you really need.

This kind of hacking is OK if I run it on community build, but when I buy it...

And if it is so easy, then why did not they just associate these scripts to the Event View screen Internet Connection Sharing shortcut?

Let's hope the fix will come soon, as I'm anyway waiting for official flashing method for Linux...

jukk	2017-10-12 06:51

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Lock screen sound level is ridiculously high when unlocking the phone screen. How do you turn the sound level down? It doesn't react to the volume level in settings (same as Volume Up/Down).

I guess this could be a bug...

suicidal_orange

2017-10-12 07:09

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by richie (Post 1536507)

Ooh Compact! Was this an official script? Is that the entire list or a trimmed version?

Surely someone who's bought this has a compact lying around to test it on... I'm really tempted to buy and try but the resale value isn't great.

LouisDK

2017-10-12 07:27

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Have anyone tried Tap to wake on official Sailfish X?

Does it drain the battery?

NokiaFanatic

2017-10-12 08:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by trashHeap (Post 1536463)

Im on the official build of SailfishX; playing youtube through the default browser onto a pair of Skullcandy Bluetooth headphones right now.

EDIT: Now streaming music from Murfie.com via their android app. In SailfishX to my bluetooth headphones just fine.

Just want I wanted to hear.

Time to start looking for a cheap Xperia X so I can finally say goodbye to my Nokia 808.

KylliOrvokki

2017-10-12 08:41

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Still waiting my voucher...
:(

This is like waiting Christmas presents.
:)

paulwk

2017-10-12 10:06

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1536514)

Thank you so much!! This is exactly what I needed.

Dave999

2017-10-12 10:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

I have Xperia X collecting dust. Any reason to install sailfish?

Ariadeno

2017-10-12 10:51

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1536546)

I have Xperia X collecting dust. Any reason to install sailfish?

Annoying the sh*t out of you would be a valid reason alone

Dave999

2017-10-12 11:01

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Originally Posted by Ariadeno (Post 1536547)

Annoying the sh*t out of you would be a valid reason alone

That’s not a valid reason. I know that sailfish is nowhere close to be used as a daily driver. :D

jenix

2017-10-12 11:01

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This may be a dumb question: There are workarounds to enable tap-to-wake in the community builds via mcetool. The official SFOS build only knows "mce" as command. Is there a way to install mcetool to try to enable tap-to-wake or is this a bad idea?

lantern

2017-10-12 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jenix (Post 1536549)

all the same as with community. devel-su pkcon install mce-tools

jenix

2017-10-12 11:37

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

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Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1536550)

all the same as with community. devel-su pkcon install mce-tools

Thanks, I just searched for mcetool packages (and obviously didn't find one).
Just installed it and enabled tap-to-wake. Seems much more unreliable and slower than I'm used to from my Aquafish, but I'm sure there will be an official fix for that.
Until then, I'll have to live with it, still better then pointlessly tapping the screen out of reflex :)

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