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kinggo 2019-07-30 10:27

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Fact is, sailfish devices don't exist. My jolla screen died a long time ago and those official versions for sony devices are........ well, not really 100% there as we al know. And even if they are, sailfish didn't move much from the inception and sadly, there's not much you can do with it.
I really like the whole UI, how it looks and feels but when put everything on paper, it feels like when I got the first iPhone in a time when I was using P990. Which was 2 years old device. Except, browser on iPhone was waaaay better and sailfish browser is really outdated now. And while I can avoid "an app for everything" on android and use browser, on saillfsh, browser suck. And there are no apps for everything.
So, it's great as a phone, maybe as music player and thanks to rinigus, we have navigation app now. But good luck doing any work on sailfish. :(:(:(

epninety 2019-07-30 10:35

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1558726)
So, it's great as a phone, maybe as music player and thanks to rinigus, we have navigation app now.

I disagree, at least in Xperia X form, it's pretty ***** as a phone too :mad:

anapospastos 2019-07-30 12:29

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I have recently been aware about the final form of the device. It looks great, reminds me the days with the Nokia N900. So my question goes like this: The sailfish port is an ongoing project by the community(which means lack of android apps support, drivers etc) or the company plans to push it somehow? Is it a doable project or just the cheese for the rat? Despite the "official" state of sailfish os for sony devices I read that they disappoint being frustrating to use as daily drivers. Are we buying an android device with a physical keyboard and the hope for an incomplete sailfish os port on it?

kinggo 2019-07-30 13:07

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Yes, we are buying android phone. Since that's the only OS that will be available. What one will do with it after that.....
Quote:

Originally Posted by epninety (Post 1558727)
I disagree, at least in Xperia X form, it's pretty ***** as a phone too :mad:

even better :rolleyes:

Kabouik 2019-07-30 16:20

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I would be perfectly fine with an incomplete OS port on this phone, especially if dual-boot with an alternative Android clone (more privacy oriented) is possible to run those apps I don't particularly like, but may need occasionally.

Sailfish OS is far from perfect, but what I tend to value more is that it suits my demands far better than any of the major OSes.

gtmaster303 2019-07-30 22:19

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Curious if the dimensions changed at all. I remember reading at some point that the less curved screen changed things a bit. Not a big deal but just wondering

r0kk3rz 2019-07-31 02:48

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 1558731)
The sailfish port is an ongoing project by the community(which means lack of android apps support, drivers etc) or the company plans to push it somehow?

Depends on who you mean by 'the company' in this case. FX Tec are assisting with the community effort, providing prototype and pre-production devices to community porters early in the process. I do not think Jolla is involved at all at this stage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 1558731)
Is it a doable project or just the cheese for the rat?

In the community we have a number of well working ports that many people use on a daily basis, and I hope this will be one of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 1558731)
Are we buying an android device with a physical keyboard and the hope for an incomplete sailfish os port on it?

Until FX Tec decide to ship the device with anything other than Android, then yes its an Android device

Kabouik 2019-07-31 09:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
First shipments on the second week of September according to the latest newsletter. Longest summer ever.

epninety 2019-07-31 10:39

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
And ordered! :D

OVK 2019-07-31 10:41

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1558757)
First shipments on the second week of September according to the latest newsletter. Longest summer ever.

I received also the link for payment (in separate email).

After payment the order status still shows "Your pre-order has been received" and payment status "charged at future date". However, after giving the payment information I got another email stating that "order has been received" so I suppose that the payment went through and I can now concentrate on waiting.

mosen 2019-07-31 10:51

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OVK (Post 1558759)
I received also the link for payment (in separate email).

After payment the order status still shows "Your pre-order has been received" and payment status "charged at future date". However, after giving the payment information I got another email stating that "order has been received" so I suppose that the payment went through and I can now concentrate on waiting.

That slightly irritated me too.
But the "order" has been received email came instantly and in the account i can now see my order where before only a pre-order was visible. Maybe the wording needs slight improvement for non-native speakers?

EDIT, FYI my first attempt failed with CC declined. Same credentials worked next attempt. I guess it is due to the amount of requests?

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-31 10:51

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
PANIC

my order isn't showing up in my account

AAAAAAAAAAAA I can't give Fxtec my hard earned €€€€ even though I want to!

EDIT: I did place a preorder in February this year however, should I still panic?

mosen 2019-07-31 11:03

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasmachinemann-NL (Post 1558761)
EDIT: I did place a preorder in Febuary this year however, should I still panic?

Only to clarify:

There are two menu items on the top left one is pre-order and one is order. Are you sure you are not looking into order site where it will only displayed if paid?
What do you have in pre-order site? I have an entry in both now after paying via the link in the email. Did you get the email?
Do you maybe have two accounts, one from forum and one from pre-order?

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-31 11:09

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1558762)
Only to clarify:

There are two menu items on the top left one is pre-order and one is order. Are you sure you are not looking into order site where it will only displayed if paid?
What do you have in pre-order site? I have an entry in both now after paying via the link in the email. Did you get the email?
Do you maybe have two accounts, one from forum and one from pre-order?

Just had a mail from Fxtec support:
"Pre-orders do not show up in customer accounts. This will show up after the payment is taken once the link’s been emailed to you."

Ergo, just wait™

Kabouik 2019-07-31 11:22

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Lucky you, I didn't get the email to order. :<

DDark 2019-07-31 11:28

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1558766)
Lucky you, I didn't get the email to order. :<

No mail for me :(

Bashing enter key to refresh my mailbox.

epninety 2019-07-31 11:47

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Maybe the notification emails are going out in 'pre-order'-order ?

ThomasAH 2019-07-31 12:21

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DDark (Post 1558767)
No mail for me :(

Bashing enter key to refresh my mailbox.

Thanks for that, made me LOL :D

Also received the e-mail with the payment request and fulfilled the payment, by the way :)

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-31 12:38

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
F5'ing like crazy on my Gmail but still nothing!

DDark 2019-07-31 12:39

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasAH (Post 1558769)
Thanks for that, made me LOL :D

Also received the e-mail with the payment request and fulfilled the payment, by the way :)

I actually got one of those :D
Helping me to run scripts on remote servers.

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-31 12:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Paid! Let's hope i'm in the first batch!

catbus 2019-07-31 13:57

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1558631)
Not always, but i think it would be better that way... - the Beta-män could be under severe pressure if everyone else would know that. Just my opinion.

--

As said before... "The beta testers have been pre-selected. We’re waiting on the legal documentation / NDA to be prepared by our lawyer before we contact the chosen ones" <- https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/b.../2/#post-24381

gtmaster303 2019-07-31 14:03

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Anyone getting their card declined?
Keep getting rejected with my Citi doublecash MasterCard. I may have to call them

catbus 2019-07-31 14:15

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
@gtmaster303 do you have any limitation on your card?

gtmaster303 2019-07-31 14:19

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1558776)
@gtmaster303 do you have any limitation on your card?

None at all. But I guess I have to call them to figure out what's going on

hagiz 2019-07-31 14:36

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
So now I have 48 hours to find out if I can manually map some of the symbol keys on the right to be ÆØÅ so I don't buy something I can't use. Guess there won't be a scandic version since they never reply to any questions about it here or on the fxtec forums.

mosen 2019-07-31 14:44

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1558777)
None at all. But I guess I have to call them to figure out what's going on

Call the credit card institute.
I was called by my issuing institute (LBB) because the amount triggered a warning on their side and my card was temporary blocked since i never bought something >500€ with that card.
The Agent told me it looked suspicious because 1st i made an error when entering "date until valid" (:o) and a second failed attempt was made on FX side before a 3rd attempt was correct but triggered the warning.
It looks like "They are manually handling the withdrawls" was the comment from my agent.
He actually asked me about FXtec and looked at their site while having me on the phone. lol. Hopefully i was able to raise their score :p

gtmaster303 2019-07-31 15:05

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Yes my credit card blocked the charge thinking it was fraud. Called them and cleared it all up. Paid for the order.
I've never bought a new phone in my life, but I'm beyond excited about this one. Hopefully it's everything I wanted

ThomasAH 2019-07-31 15:12

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1558780)
Yes my credit card blocked the charge thinking it was fraud. Called them and cleared it all up. Paid for the order.
I've never bought a new phone in my life, but I'm beyond excited about this one. Hopefully it's everything I wanted

This is the second phone I'm buying new. The first one was the Nokia N900, the Pro1 seems like a suitable follow-up :D

catbus 2019-07-31 15:29

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagiz (Post 1558778)
So now I have 48 hours to find out if I can manually map some of the symbol keys on the right to be ÆØÅ so I don't buy something I can't use. Guess there won't be a scandic version since they never reply to any questions about it here or on the fxtec forums.

Unfortunately "Scandinavian qwerty will not be available." - I was hoping that too...

https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/s...se/#post-24463

Kabouik 2019-07-31 15:51

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1558774)
Anyone getting their card declined?
Keep getting rejected with my Citi doublecash MasterCard. I may have to call them

Mine was rejected too (Visa), the only way was to use a third party account with an aggregating card that I can use to pay from multiple bank accounts (Mastercard). I have not tried with a "normal" Mastercard, didn't have mine with me, but I doubt the issue is specific to any type anyway. The issue was with the actual date of payment, probably because we don't pay today but just commit to allow the future payment.

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-31 16:13

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I paid with Visa, no issues here.

hagiz 2019-07-31 16:28

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1558783)
Unfortunately "Scandinavian qwerty will not be available." - I was hoping that too...

https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/s...se/#post-24463

Thanks! Can't believe I missed that post.
Paid mine now, will just have to make it work.

Fellfrosch 2019-07-31 17:27

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I've also paid. No problems here.

Koiruus 2019-07-31 18:09

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1558783)
Unfortunately "Scandinavian qwerty will not be available." - I was hoping that too...

https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/s...se/#post-24463

Few days I also asked Fxtec customer support about the scandic layout, and got this answer:
Quote:

Keyboards layouts for the Pro1 are introduced depending on the demand we receive in a specific region. Unfortunately, we do not currently have plans to make Scandinavian layouts, however, this might change in future. Of course, you will still be able to use a Scandinavian layout on the virtual keyboard, and/or only use the physical slider for typing in English.
As most of us Scandinavian fanatics are willing to get their Pro1's as soon as possible and thus will accept QWERTY or QWERTZ if Scandinavian is not available, I'm afraid that there will not be enough demand for Scandic layout in the future either. I just did pay my QWERTZ Pro1, so I don't really think I'd buy a second unit even if they decided to provide scandic layout. And I think this will be the situation with most of us.

PS. As I mostly type in Finnish, I don't see much point on having physical keyboard just for occasional English typing :D

kinggo 2019-07-31 18:58

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
can't you guys just write without those special characters? I mean the right way here is "čevapćići" but even with all the "c"s it would do just fine

gtmaster303 2019-07-31 19:05

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
They added a lot of FAQs to the preorder screen and updated some of the existing ones too.
2 year warranty is crazy. I'm super pumped about that

Koiruus 2019-07-31 19:12

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1558798)
can't you guys just write without those special characters? I mean the right way here is "čevapćići" but even with all the "c"s it would do just fine

In Finland we have just ä, ö and å. While it is understandable for the reader if you use just a and o instead, it is far from being same. And it looks just like what it is: writing Finnish with American keyboard. As said, it is easily understandable, but still it isn't something I'd like to pay 650€ for. For me, the whole point on having physical keyboard is that I don't have to use on-screen keyboard. So the keyboard should provide everything I need and if it doesn't, there's no much point of having it at all.

Just for curiosity, In Finland we have a nice word "älämölö", pronounced as [ælæmœlœ] and it means the noise made by a bunch of people talking out loud. If you write it without scandic letters, it looks like "alamolo" and the meaning is something like "dick down there"

hagiz 2019-07-31 19:24

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1558798)
can't you guys just write without those special characters? I mean the right way here is "čevapćići" but even with all the "c"s it would do just fine

In Norwegian the Æ, Ø and Å are used in a lot of words, you could write AE, OE and AA in emergencies, I sometimes do that when I'm out of the country and unable to change the keyboard layout, but it's a pain to type and annoying to read.

The letter Å is a very common letter(my mother's name even starts with it:D). On it's own Å means "to", like "to do". Obviously it's used a lot, and two A's can never replace it, even though a Norwegian would understand what you mean(they would also understand you don't have access to a scandic keyboard and assume you are abroad.

hagiz 2019-07-31 19:31

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Changed my order to QWERTZ, those extra letters will work as ÆØÅ for me, and I'll just type Y with the Z. I'm the only user anyway so it will probably be alright.


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