Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Rich text formatting refers to the ability to do things like bold text, italicize it, etc. Notice that all of the names are bold, thats what would be lost for a way to fix the text overflow / word wrap issue.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

If you're saying that all of the issues could be resolved by having the screen completely plain, I think most people would agree that the appearance of how you have it right now is definitely preferred.

Even if it has to be a little buggy this way. :)

My vote would be to keep RTF. :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Well, I went back to your GTK version.

I noticed why the older release was being so poopy with me.

I get a lot of <3 messages which for some reason broke the display for DC.

I never picked up on that until now.

Anyway, are there any other kinds of texts that you can think of Ed that would also cause weirdness?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Nice to know it isn't a new bug I introduced. I guess I don't get enough lovin.

Anything that looks like HTML or can be mistaken as bad HTML would cause problems.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

:(
Just got a disturbing email from Gizmo5.... they are shutting service down as of 4/1/11. :(

Anyone have any suggestions for a replacement on the N8x0?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Sipgate. Incoming calls are free, so it's just as good as gizmo5.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

For use with GV you need VOIP with a phone number. sipgate is free, Skype isn't too expensive

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Check my sig :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I don't know what HTML looks like.

Can you linky me to a page?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

The main special characters I can think of are <, >, and & which all start or stop some special thingy.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hi can any one tell me how to set a callback number... i thought it should come by it self or it should let me edit it but it dosen't say any where....

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

What version of DialCentral are you using?

In the newer versions (1.2.0+) go to the menu "Account" and there is a touch selector to change the callback number.

http://wiki.maemo.org/images/5/58/Di...al_Account.png

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

i am using version 1.2.30...
the account has nothing written infront of it and call back says not set when i touch that it goes to options and there is only one option to chose "not set"

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

It looks like you aren't logged in....

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

no man i am logged in... when it logs in it gives me this page...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Somethings not right. Please send me a log

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I am sorry i don't know how to show u my log... if you could explain i might be able to do that....

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

If you are familiar with the command line, then that link I gave has the path to the log file.

There is suppose to be a keyboard shortcut for putting the log into the copy buffer but it hasn't been working, I need to get back to that...

Just attach it to a post and I'll figure out where to go from here.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I've actually reproduced this issue now, just trying to decide. I'll go ahead and upload a fix (which will sadly rest the testing count which means it'll be a bit longer before I release the load of new features I've been developing).

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hi all ,

i've been trying to use this app but no success so far. My only question is : Does this work outside US ? I'm from Macedonia and a lot of Google features dont work over here but i've been using GV from web service for quite some time and i just wanted it on my N900.

Thanks in advance,

Vladimir

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

DialCentral should work just as well as the website. You mention GV website working for you, so I don't need to go over things previously discussed.

Could you give more detail as to what kind of problem you are having? Does it just not log in? Have you tried both with and without @gmail.com?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

First of all thanks for your quick reply. I will try to make it work with the help of the post you've pointed at and after that i'll post the results.
Regards

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Also don't forget to specify the version of DialCentral you are working with and which device / system software version.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Of course , I'm just gonna try to make it work and than post the outcome.
Thanks

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

hello epage

i know i am trying to be a pain in the butt...

but honestly i can't figure it out....

well i tryed to get the log by holding Ctrl + l but noting comes up

secondly now this msg has started to appear when i dial a number

it does log me in my gmail account but this thing about callback number... can't figure it out...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Does the weird behavior for the account settings dialog where no callback number shows up happen immediately after login or after having DC open for many hours?

If the latter then the problem you had with configuring the callback number is most likely due to a bug caused by the session with the server expiring. The one time I saw it, I worked around it by closing and re-opening. I fixed that bug and pushed the build but it seemed to have disappeared on the server for Maemo 5.

If the former, them I am still confused.

When you press Ctrl+l it just copies the log text. You need to paste it somewhere. Did that not work? If you feel comfortable with a command line, the log can also be found at "~/.dialcentral/dialcentral.log".

There is still an issue with the server timeout though, its just hard to reproduce so I haven't done too much testing with it. I'm guessing you might get it to work by re-logging in. Or you can always close and re-open. With all of the caching of data DC does now, that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hi there ,

As said i've tried to configure my google account using the guide from the prevoius post , but no success. I cannot gain google voice number because i;m not us resident. I've tried to do it with 100 different proxies but it just wont redirect me to the site.
As for your question of which version of Dial Central and OS i have ( which is a bit irrelevant at the moment ) here it is :
DC v. 1.2.30
OS : CSSU 20.2010.36maemo13

Thanks for your effort

Regards

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

can u tell me a way to completely remove dial central in xterm with all it's internal files and every thing..

so that i might be able to install dial central freshely...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Oh, I had gotten the impression you had been able to get a GV number. Sorry, that is a prerequisite for using DC.

Install / uninstall won't make a difference but maybe deleting of user data.

First, send me
You can just do the following to grab it
And email it to me.
Then to clear everything

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Thanks for the logs. They have me a bit baffled though. I did see one thing that makes it look like Google might have changed some things on the server. Just because I don't see it doesn't mean much because google gradually rolls features out. Sometimes I'm even the last to get the update, relying on the patience of users to help me figure out what needs changing.

I'm pushing 1.2.32 to extras-devel (hopefully it'll appear unlike 1.2.31). I don't expect wonders from it but maybe a tad bit more helpful information in the log.

Once you've played around with it and sent me a log, would you mind trying out the debugging section on the wiki starting with "For serious users with serious problems...". That way I can see the data the way DC sees it to confirm the information is in the needed form. I should probably write a UI for that...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Is there any chance that some of the google voice contact groups functionality could be added to DialCentral, e.g. being able to view your contact groups, add specific google contacts to groups, adjusting calling settings per group, tweaking call settings for particular contacts, etc... available via google voice settings on the web?

Also, general development question... is there a particular reference you're using for google voice APIs and your DialCentral development?

I'm not overly familiar with Python, but I have a fair amount of development background with C/C++, Perl, CGI, etc... and wants/needs can be a good development motivator :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

The basis for most API out there has been a result of Chad Smith posting his results.
I used most of those results in my app and I'm reasonably sure so did Ed.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Access to contact groups for the purpose of broadcasting SMS messages I think is a great idea.

I've tended to shy away from contact management (editing contacts but group management would also fit under that) as that would best be implemented elsewhere (libfolks? qtcontacts? contact sync? other contact apis?).

Managing of contact groups specifically with GV is something more applicable to DC and having that without contact management would be odd so it could justify support for it. I'm a bit mixed about how much of all of GV's settings to put into DC though. I at least rarely use them so keeping GV simple at the cost of going to the website seems acceptable. Thoughts? Use cases?

Originally everything was based off of imitating the gv mobile page. Eventually I added support for things on Chad Smith's page. Also looking at the official Chrome extensions source is helpful. I also saw a thing or two on misc other google voice apis.

I find I rarely touch the GV APIs much these days, most of the work is on UI features on top.

I'd love assistance and as a fulltime C++ developer, Python has been my preferred dynamic language to learn. You can also consider helping uvatbc out with qgvdial. I personally am not much of a fan of the split development. The way I think of the difference in DC and qgvdial (hopefully not offending uvatbc) is that DC is an end-user app while qgvdial is a tech demo with every feature possible added but work needed on making it usable.

I'd recommend forking the project and playing with it
https://github.com/epage/DialCentral

Since you talked about the APIs:

Session management, threading, caching, etc layer:
https://github.com/epage/DialCentral...src/session.py
GV API to DC Adapter (makes working with TOR easier)
https://github.com/epage/DialCentral...oice/gvoice.py
GV API
https://github.com/epage/DialCentral...oice/gvoice.py

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Although I have over 200 google contacts, even in google voice I can only send a text to 5 contacts at a time. In DC it would be great to send the same text to a google contact group.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

They have a hard coded limit to 5? I didn't realize that. I guess I could implement a work around by sending to 5 at a time (make a feature request if you want it so I don't lose track of this)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I tend to use the contact/groups management in google voice to do intelligent filtering of my calls, since I only give out my google voice number lately, rather than my actual cell numbers, work, personal, etc...

I'm guessing my usage is somewhat typical for people who really try to leverage their google voice number to do the same sorts of things.


Thanks, I appreciate the info, and I apologize if this is documented in an FAQ somewhere.

I briefly looked at qgvdial, when I was curious about google voice apps on Symbian^3, and I picked up an N8 in December, but decided not to keep it.

But, I do have an E7 arriving in the next couple of days, so that may justify reviving some development for Maemo5 and Symbian^3, figuring out appropriate #ifdef, packaging differences, etc...

I started doing some Qt/C++ development ( https://garage.maemo.org/projects/nfqm - Netflix Queue Manager ) for Maemo5 on the n900 a while ago, but I haven't given the project much attention for quite some time. It's also my first attempt at Qt/C++ development, and the code I've written so far is portable, compiles and runs on Maemo5, OS X, Linux, and possibly Win32, but I haven't verified Win32.

Thanks, I'll try to take a look at these links, and the various source code and projects you mentioned.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I've only given my GV number out for the last 3 years. I just have no need for filtering and have gotten pretty lazy about even creating contacts for people.

Mind helping me understand the use case? Understanding use cases helps to determine what features need to be added and how the UI should be setuo.

I think I am curious about the following

• How much do you configure per contact added
• How often do you add contacts
• How much juggling of existing contacts do you do on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis?
• What types of things are you configuring

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Well, I have call screening enabled for contacts that haven't been put into a couple of my contact groups... Friends, Family, Work, Personal, etc... and my google voice rings my various phones differently, within the defined contact groups.

If I get a call from someone not in one of my contact groups, I get the usual call screening prompt, but I may decide to save that number with a new contact on my phone, and also decide to create a google voice contact and put that contact into a contact group that rings my phones appropriately in the future, rather than continuing to screen the calls.

Obviously, there's already some duplication of effort, creating a contact in my phone, and also creating a contact in google voice, but being able to manage this stuff directly on my phone, without visiting a 'heavier' website, would be convenient, if the Google Voice APIs provide access to these features.

I really don't spend a lot of time on the phone, or receive many calls from unknown callers, but for example... last week I had several unknown callers, while I was taking care of some auto repairs, rental car, upholstery shop, etc.., etc...

The call screening becomes a bit of a bother, if there's a lot of back and forth communication, multiple phone calls still getting screened, etc... before you get around to creating google voice contacts and putting contacts into appropriate call groups.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Ok, I just installed the Python/Qt version of DialCentral from extras-devel on the n900, assuming that's the latest/greatest for recent feedback.

I'll play around with this new version, and hopefully find some time to start peeking at the source, to figure out how some of the Python/Qt stuff is working right now, in the interest of getting up to speed on the current functionality, before thinking about 'what if...' functionality.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hi Ed!

Hey, I just reflashed and I'm trying to install version 1.1.13-0 but it requires python2.5-conic which that depends on other junk as well.

Is there a simple way just to download that specific DC release to make it easier for me?