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He has even taken down his source code for the emulators from github.com.

Don't expect further development for the N900. :(

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I'm sorry to say this, but Smoku is behaving like a jerk. Sure, Ovi is a fail, but stopping developement and putting everything you've done up to waste just because of some imaginery store? After all the appreciation and winning the contest? After all the progress and dedication? Seriously? I think his behaviour is immature. I don't understand why he wanted to upload anything to Ovi in the first place when the emulator isn't finished. But oh well, hopefully we can live without you Smoku. I always had a feeling anyway that you didn't really care about the app but did it because you've had the feeling you had to instead of really wanting to. You also didn't care about the contest at all as it seems from your responses. But hey, your decision, your life. We don't blame you and we probably don't need you.

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Ahh Ok - now that is pretty lame. Ceasing development for Maemo is one thing but taking down the source so noone can pick up the project is pretty sad.

Now that said. The code is I believe bound by the GPL which means technically he has to provide the source to anyone who asks - including all changes he has made.

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give him a chance people every 1 has a bad day and nokia realy are letting the side down the n900 is the only good thing since the n95 and even then its all because of the 3rd party developers if it wasnt for these people takin time out of there lives to to make all these kick *** apps and we only had ovi store how good would the phone be then.
i just hope smoku gets this thing in the store so the money he makes gives him incentive to finish it but eitherway it works realy well as it is and its all free so i aint *****en
cheers for your hard work smoku i hope you move on to biggder and better things with your skills

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Nokia is the root of all evil.

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oh ho ho, lmao xD...

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hi, its been a while since i checked this thread, but is the newest version still available and does it have save and load states? im still on 0.3.1 for this reason

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BTW, I'm doubtful if smoku ever replies to this thread again. Just sayin'

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I believe, that source is still here - http://maemo.org/packages/source/vie...psx4all/0.3.9/

I too really appreciate Mr.Smoku`s talent, and as well cannot get motives behind this act, which I personally found as immature. I believe he has his motives, and they were important.

Thanks, nevertheless..

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this seems to be getting a sinking ship. qwert12, now smoku ... who's next ?

As was said before, we all have our motives and we can't judge anyone.

I DO think the Maemo community can survive without them, nobody is irreplacable but it clearly shows an underlying BAD gutfeeling a lot of people having. I hope Nokia really wants to keep the devs on board and will do things to raise the spirit.

Unless they consider these people leaving as collateral damage and hope new devs will raise when they get their Meego products out ...

I, for myself, I'm still loving my N900 to death. And I hope there still will be lots of talented developers around willing to invest time and write quality apps for us, either on the true Maemo5 or Nitdroid or Community support Meego-on-N900. Each one it's own :)

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Thats the old source unfortunately.

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Seriously guys get off Smoku's back and read the thread. The incident he is talking about happened a while back (that of nokia not supporting n900 anymore) and he is asking people to stop nagging him. He never said he would stop developing but with some of the comments you have been making I can see him not wanting to work any harder for it. Can't anyone be appreciative of the work already done? Thanks Smoku for developing and even working on your own gpu plugin!

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How about this then http://maemo.org/packages/source/vie...e/psx4m/0.4.2/

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Now you are talking ...

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Now we just need someone who knows what to do with it.. heh.

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Cheers for all your hard work on all your projects Smoku.
I use UAE4ALL, PSX4ALL & SIXAXIS.

Ignore the haters & Nokia, your efforts have proved invaluable to this forum.

Thanks

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Don't get me wrong. I love smoku and the work he has done here. But I just cant get behind the "It's my ball and I am going home" deal.

I think the coding comp results and the many thankyou posts here have shown we all appreciate smoku, either thats enough to offset the Nokia cluster fudge or it isn't. Not much else we can do.

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Why not? And why does it have to be portrayed as though he's gone off to sulk?

The man has a life, and as he's shared with us, a busy one. There are only so many hours in the day, and everyone has their breaking point, so I can completely understand him saying, 'screw this, I have better things to do with my time than this.'

He owes us nothing -- what he's given us so far is more than generous.

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The point isn't to get hands on smokus work, the point that he take off his code from github looks like a statement to the maemo comunity.

I don't believe that this reaction hit Nokia or whatever company or organisation, it hits the maemo-comunity.

btw this topic isn't called:
"the-big-smoku-nokia-maemo-whining-threat"

So let's talk about psx4all / psx4m related things. :D

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thank you very much for your great effort smoku, i understand your frustration, if that is your final decision, ok, accepted


all i cant say is thanks, very good stuff you ported/made, made me so happy on my n900, sucks for nokia, i will never buy another nokia phone after the n900

and has for the emulator psx4m, i tested it after the last update with -nosound frameskip and cyclemulti with final fantasy tactics and ran awesome, without the bios, 133 fps during a cinematic


will test it with castlevania sotn and grandia, and see how it works, kinda suck if you dont finish it and add great sound and better perfomance to it, but hell is a good work.


cheers

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Exactly!

Unfortunate that smoku left maemo development, but this doesn't have to mean the end of psx4m. I still have a version of the psx4m code (the one without the cycle multiplier option, but better than nothing) and will try to put it online this evening.

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Works on then,

i only want a version with GameGripper control's :D, or a option for re-config buttons..

gl!

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Hmm... anybody knows about free/paid emulator called FpseCE on Windows Mobile? It was a great idea.
Smoku why don't you make a free version of psx4m(finished plugin, with GUI, but without savestates, accelerometer control and other cool stuff) and paid version(aka full version)? Let it cost....like 2-5 euro and you will get back your money in no time :D

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Hell, I'd pay 10 euro for something that works like FPSECE.

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OK, further OT :D
I don't believe Smoku is coding those things to make money.
And I believe he stated it several times:
http://tomasz.sterna.tv/2010/07/my-v...x-development/

But I see an other problem for further development of psx4m.
It's based on zodttd's psx4all/psx4droid code so all development of psx4m can be adapted to these emulators.

And these emulators are developed to make $$$.

So why should smoku do the work 4free and other guys are making $$$ ?

And how many of you are really willing to pay for a PSX emu on N900 ?
And why are there only a few to donate on smokus website over the last months for all this work ?

For example: psx4droid was sold ~ 30.000 times, each for 5,99 $
And the ammount of donations for Smokus work ? - No need to mention !

And now we are at the point where Nokia is failing : The OVI Store

Oh, I forgot to be on topic :)

Is it possible to use psx4m and psx4all with hildon UI together on N900 ?

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I have

a) already donated to smoku - as a dev who relied on donations I know it sucks balls when you dont get any.
b) Mentioned that we would pay for the app if he was to put it somewhere other than the OVI store.

Nokia suck - we can all agree on that, but there are ways around it.

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Whoever carries on with this app, or if Smoku has a change of heart- a very nice option would be able to use eboot files (PSX games formatted for PSP). As mentioned already, they reduce (on average) 50% of the size and some games up to 80%. Also provides more source options for roms.

The Android version of this same basic app plays every rom format that exists, but the eboot pbp files suit the storage space better (have more roms on card).

Must admit that being able to play Crash Racing, Need for Speed 3, Ridge Racer 4 and Quake 2 smooth with sound is pretty nice on the Incredible :) Virtual pad is OK, but N900 KB would be better (to say the least).

I have not tried those games (since eboots) on the N900, but Raiden 2 and Hotshots Golf play about the same (850 mhz vz 1ghz on Inc). The roms are a LOT bigger as ISO or BIN, so eboot (pbp) would be very handy to save space for N900 gamers.

I agree with some here in that if Smoku bailed due to time- understood, but if he left due to Nokia, they will always (IMO) suck for software and app support. It is the people in the community that respect and appreciate his work.

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... realy sad ...
**** off nokia, what is the best android phone for emulation purpose ? :D

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Motorola Droid 2. 3630 OMAP (N900's big brother) and keyboard. Tried one out today. If I did not already have the Incredible, I would get this.

If on Sprint, the Samsung Galaxy EPIC will be nice too, since fast chipset and keyboard.

Good thing about the Droid 2 is 8gb of built-in app space and good thing about the Epic is bigger display (4" vs 3.7"). Of course, both on different carriers.

I wish the US had Europe's wide-open hardware options :( And their really good beer in pubs :( :(

PSX4ALL on Android has played about every game I have tried. Still amazed that the games I mentioned play smoothly and with sound. I am able to fit about 2X the games on a card, in eboot pbp format.

added: Some games play slow (some 3D fighters mainly). The one game that plays a little better on the N900 is Dead or Alive. Slow on both devices, but still better on the N900 app.

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On which device did you try PSX4android?

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For the people intrested ... I uploaded the last version of smoku's sources of psx4m (http://github.com/beligit/psx4m). It is not the one with the cycle multiplier command line option but the version just before.

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why not at least up the newest version to github?
http://maemo.org/packages/source/vie...e/psx4m/0.4.2/
even though its allready available...

this one seems to have the cyclemultiplier in it at least if you look at the source its there.

btw dont know if you guys know but in about 4 days the gp32spain coding competition ends and franxis has coded a heavily optimized and improved version of pcsx for the wiz.
with things like: all new dynarec, GTE writen in ARM assembler, improved the original GPU plugin from psx4all, SPU rewritten by franxis this means sound should be allot better.
when the competition ends he plans to release the source code and im pretty sure its gets portet to the pandora, so it shouldnt be too hard to port the pandora port to n900. i would try it myself but dont got an n900.

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That's right, but dont expect a pandora version in 4 days. Also, the version of PCSX-Reloaded Franxis and Chui are coding are made with ARMv5 assembler, not ARMv7

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Incredible

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so smokus left maemo?? dammmm.. farewell!

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I really wonder how it runs on a Droid (1). It doesn't have GPU accel now does it?

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you bloody drama queens
big fanfare coz i'm leaving after taking all the fish
lame 2x giving the reason ovi?
whatever man

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yes i guess it will take a little bit for a pandora port, but think it wont take too long cause franxis isnt like zodttd and actually does share the code.The pandora community seem to really want a god psx emulator so im pretty sure someone over there will port it pretty soone.And as far as i know ARM cpus are downwards compatible(would be stupid if they werent) so the ARMv5 assembler shouldnt be a problem, off course it could be even faster with ARMv7 assembler but it allready runs pretty amazing on the wiz(wich isnt as powefull as pandora/n900) so i wouldnt bother to rewrite it.

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Thanks for sharing the info, tabris. The assemblers are indeed backwards compatible, so it shouldn't be an issue (though ARMv7 would be better, as you say). How about the GPU plugin? Is it OpenGL ES 2.0 on the wiz? (I have next to no info, apologies) It should be relatively easy to port from Pandora (or maybe straight from wiz). The only issue could be the sound? I think smokku had to write some pulseaudio code for that?