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mooglez 2011-03-02 08:46

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 958687)
That does seem to be the issue changing the theme last night must of reset my phone force rotation back to 0 again. Now changing it back to 1 creates the 2 pushes problem again. It does seem to be a CSSU bug.

when you lock the phone, the first time you need to double tap the power button.

If you then let it go black again, instead of opening it, then further activations can be done with a single tap.

(this is obviously reset back to 2 taps required if you do open the phone)

edit+: except now i always need to double tap it to activate.

maxximuscool 2011-03-02 08:51

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by realsportcars (Post 958440)
Sorry for going OT but I have a request for all people that ask for a different virtual keyboard: join the fastsmsevo thread and explain me what you need, this is the only way I can manage languages that I don't know, or particular requests :)

Thank you guys!

Where is the thread. I want to help create Khmer Keyboard :) for the FastSMSeVO

droll 2011-03-02 09:02

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evan (Post 958643)
what about the value of forcerotation in each transitions.ini
in each theme?
check this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1557

this worked for me. when i disable forcerotation, it goes back to requiring only a single button press to unlock.

droll 2011-03-02 09:27

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
is there a place somewhere for people to suggest features for the CSSU?

Jaffa 2011-03-02 09:30

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 958721)
is there a place somewhere for people to suggest features for the CSSU?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1536

neboja 2011-03-02 09:44

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
find another bug.... (in portrait mode)...
when you want to edit contact, by pressing a contact picture, while in portrait mode, you don't get all fields for input.... just a buttons for "add fields" and "save" and "delete fields button is left out" (but when you press "add field" button, contact app stops to response...)
BUT... while you are in landscape mod, and get to edit contact, you got shown all edit dialogue (as normal)... AND you turn your phone in portrait, than everything is normal (eg there are all fields for input...)

keep the good work ;)

EDIT: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11999

Zekahz 2011-03-02 10:04

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I noticed that when in portrait mode you turn the device another 45 degrees (so upside-down) the device go’s back to landscape-mode. This happens, for example, in the main menu. I think it should stay in portrait.

MetalSer 2011-03-02 10:20

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekahz (Post 958738)
I noticed that when in portrait mode you turn the device another 45 degrees (so upside-down) the device go’s back to landscape-mode. This happens, for example, in the main menu. I think it should stay in portrait.

Yes I noticed this too. I agree it should stay in portrait mode or even turn further toghether with the phone.

pedro-25 2011-03-02 10:57

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
i have a big problem after installing this all was fine, i done an update a while ago and edited the transition ini then after turning my phone on 1 day i was in a reboot loop, i thought as last resort i would reflash only to find y usb starting to play up & my computer not recognising the phone so after wiggling the usb around it was starting to pick it u[ untill the usub snapped off the n900 and i am still stuck in reboot loop and obviuosly cannot flash, i have also checked on nokia website & i am out of warrenty so not much chance of nokia helping me? i guess i am now screwed but any sugestions would be good?

ndi 2011-03-02 11:03

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Suggest what? Without USB you can't charge. Go to Nokia and get it fixed or sell it for parts and buy another phone.

pedro-25 2011-03-02 11:12

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 958761)
Suggest what? Without USB you can't charge. Go to Nokia and get it fixed or sell it for parts and buy another phone.

i can charge cause i have brought an external battery charger off ebay to charge the battery but now i am stuck in the reboot loop i cannot reflash my n900 cause i have no usb i didnt know if there was possibly any other way to maybe get the n900 in to mass storage mode or some sort of way of getting the phone out of reboot loop without needing the usb, i know its a long shot but i thought its worth a try before getting rid of it!

ndi 2011-03-02 11:16

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Not really. N900 can be restored (requires BM to already be there), accessed via USB (needs USB) or network (needs SSH and the like, presinstalled).

Several other recovery techniques are available, all requiring USB.

If you get "rid" of it, send it over. I'll solder my own connections. Or pay Nokia to fix it.

d-iivil 2011-03-02 13:15

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NightShift79 (Post 958401)
I would love to see a stand alone app of that kind.
d-iivil see a chance of releasing it?

perfect if it comes with the CSSU, later on.

Autobuilder is down atm, but I already submitted package called "cssutransitionstuner" there. Hopefully it will appear there at some point. It's standalone app written in Qt to tune the transitions. It places itself into settings -application under "customization" category where it can be launched.

StocChr 2011-03-02 13:24

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
after a reflash i have problem with the programm menu...
it doesnt rotate any more... email and all other programms do?!

another small question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 956136)
Code:

gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false
Will be part of the status menu plugin later on.

will the gconftool command bring the option to the status menu?
i try this, but nothin happend!

btw. what is disable_phone_gesture... this is also in my hildon-desktop gconf.xml

cheers

Rob1n 2011-03-02 13:41

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StocChr (Post 958848)
will the gconftool command bring the option to the status menu?
i try this, but nothin happend!

No, it just stops the menu from rotating - the status menu option isn't in a release version yet, and will just run this command in the background. If you've run this command manually, then that'd explain why your menu has stopped rotating.

EDIT: The disable_phone_gesture setting is the one set by checking/unchecking the "Launch by turning" option in the phone applications "Turning Control" dialogue.

Jaffa 2011-03-02 13:49

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 958837)
Autobuilder is down atm, but I already submitted package called "cssutransitionstuner" there. Hopefully it will appear there at some point. It's standalone app written in Qt to tune the transitions. It places itself into settings -application under "customization" category where it can be launched.

Assuming it works well, isn't overly fiddly (e.g. perhaps has a basic mode (z-axis rotation) and an advanced mode (attack angle, forcerotation, ..)), fits with the default styles of the system and doesn't have any extra large dependencies, it should be included in the CSSU.

Not sure what the approach will be to include an app which is in Extras(-devel), though. Since the enabler is through Extras, as long as cssutransitiontuner is as far up the Extras chain as community-ssu-enabler, it should work.

StocChr 2011-03-02 13:53

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 958865)
No, it just stops the menu from rotating - the status menu option isn't in a release version yet, and will just run this command in the background. If you've run this command manually, then that'd explain why your menu has stopped rotating.

EDIT: The disable_phone_gesture setting is the one set by checking/unchecking the "Launch by turning" option in the phone applications "Turning Control" dialogue.

thanks man!!! i thought this command will bring a menu, that i can fast switch on / off autorotate, shame on me!!

thanks for helping!!

ivgalvez 2011-03-02 14:03

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Upstart 1.0 recently released.

Any chance to have its way into the CSSU?

d-iivil 2011-03-02 14:46

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 958878)
Assuming it works well, isn't overly fiddly (e.g. perhaps has a basic mode (z-axis rotation) and an advanced mode (attack angle, forcerotation, ..)), fits with the default styles of the system and doesn't have any extra large dependencies, it should be included in the CSSU.

Not sure what the approach will be to include an app which is in Extras(-devel), though. Since the enabler is through Extras, as long as cssutransitiontuner is as far up the Extras chain as community-ssu-enabler, it should work.

The app already pretty much fills those details. Only portait mode ain't working, there I could use some help from devs who knows how to make the UI to scale into new orientation.

hawaii 2011-03-02 14:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 958681)
Nokia's already done this, ohmd.

Heh. We all know how well that works -- right? :P

Thanks for the link.

n900 lover 2011-03-02 17:06

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Hi guys , first off id like to say thank you again for my new phone! you guys did a wicked amazing job on this cssu!
anyway i thought id add my 2 cents, and tell you all (if you dont know already) that if you have omweather widget on ur desktop ,the desktop rotates too, so now you can have one desktop. that way u can keep it in portrait mode untill u need it in landscape! Brilliant!


And here it is! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz3hy9YlXYQ

Hariainm 2011-03-02 17:23

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I really appreciate the FastSMSEvo work, but It will be possible to have the original T9 keyboard from Nokia added to CSSU? (you know, the one built in phone application). Or the keyboard from VertSMS app, i think is the closest kb to the official one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYXwCqIPFM
http://maemo.org/packages/view/vertsms/

Mentalist Traceur 2011-03-02 17:36

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 958878)
Assuming it works well, isn't overly fiddly (e.g. perhaps has a basic mode (z-axis rotation) and an advanced mode (attack angle, forcerotation, ..)), fits with the default styles of the system and doesn't have any extra large dependencies, it should be included in the CSSU.

Not sure what the approach will be to include an app which is in Extras(-devel), though. Since the enabler is through Extras, as long as cssutransitiontuner is as far up the Extras chain as community-ssu-enabler, it should work.

I would suggest a no on that. I think it should be a separate downloadable-by-user package. It's perfectly easy to place the same thing into either the CSSU repos or the main repository, and make it dependent on the CSSU metapackage. Same, in my opinion, should be done with the status menu applet that MohammadAG is working on for rotation control. I think both are good ideas, but some users might not want those installed, and unlike other packages/improvements that the CSSU packages, I think this is too far outside the must-be-pushed-through-CSSU realm, and fits just fine in the "could be in the repos without the CSSU" category. Using the CSSU to push intrinsic-to-necessary-packages modifications (like Hildon Desktop modifications/improvements/extras) makes sense, using it to push open source replacements for the closed source blobs makes sense too - but there doesn't seem to be any good reason to put in extra packages on top like the status menu rotation control or a transitions controlling UI within the main CSSU release itself.

(I'm also thinking that, if there are any closed source packages that can be swapped out with open source replacements without depending on the CSSU as a delivery mechanism, those should be packaged separately too - sure, most reasonable people will want to upgrade to the CSSU, especially when it hits non-testing, but they should still have the option to install the open source replacements that don't truly need the CSSU separately.

Just make sure to include a description of what they do, and the users who want/need it will find it easily.

Jigzy 2011-03-02 17:57

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I was wondering if one of the maemodder patches could be added disabling the wifi "enabled,disabled" message when changing wifi connection?

am not sure if this has been asked before?

tyrian89 2011-03-02 18:15

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900 lover (Post 959021)
Hi guys , first off id like to say thank you again for my new phone! you guys did a wicked amazing job on this cssu!
anyway i thought id add my 2 cents, and tell you all (if you dont know already) that if you have omweather widget on ur desktop ,the desktop rotates too, so now you can have one desktop. that way u can keep it in portrait mode untill u need it in landscape! Brilliant!


And here it is! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz3hy9YlXYQ

Hi,

I tried to recreate this to no avail. Are there any special requirements to this? Such as only having that one desktop enabled or something?

Thanks in advance.

droitwichgas 2011-03-02 18:57

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 959037)
I would suggest a no on that. I think it should be a separate downloadable-by-user package. It's perfectly easy to place the same thing into either the CSSU repos or the main repository, and make it dependent on the CSSU metapackage. Same, in my opinion, should be done with the status menu applet that MohammadAG is working on for rotation control. I think both are good ideas, but some users might not want those installed, and unlike other packages/improvements that the CSSU packages, I think this is too far outside the must-be-pushed-through-CSSU realm, and fits just fine in the "could be in the repos without the CSSU" category. Using the CSSU to push intrinsic-to-necessary-packages modifications (like Hildon Desktop modifications/improvements/extras) makes sense, using it to push open source replacements for the closed source blobs makes sense too - but there doesn't seem to be any good reason to put in extra packages on top like the status menu rotation control or a transitions controlling UI within the main CSSU release itself.

(I'm also thinking that, if there are any closed source packages that can be swapped out with open source replacements without depending on the CSSU as a delivery mechanism, those should be packaged separately too - sure, most reasonable people will want to upgrade to the CSSU, especially when it hits non-testing, but they should still have the option to install the open source replacements that don't truly need the CSSU separately.

Just make sure to include a description of what they do, and the users who want/need it will find it easily.

Surely if the CSSU now allows users the possiblity of configuring the transitions they should be albe to do so with a built in package rather than then having to go and download the package from repos.

Otherwise I can just see the numerous questions on the CSSU thread when end users download the stable version in due course then asking how they configure the transitions which has been listed on the changelog as being configurable. I personally can not imagine anybody who downloads the CSSU will not want to at least try configuring the transitions to start with, even if they then decide to go back to the stock version (which i would of thought is pretty unlikely anyway from my own experince so far)

elie-7 2011-03-02 19:14

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
is it possible to have a drag to drop status menu, i think we had that before pr1.2, instead of clicking the status menu to open it, we drag it down, is it possible to have it ? (like the notification are on android )

Jaffa 2011-03-02 19:25

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigzy (Post 959051)
I was wondering if one of the maemodder patches could be added disabling the wifi "enabled,disabled" message when changing wifi connection?

Could you raise an enhancement linking to the patch, please?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development

arora.rohan 2011-03-02 19:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelZXQjTMUM

Only the task switcher left..damn i love this!..This is actually better than that Ipad 2 news :P!

n900 lover 2011-03-02 19:35

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrian89 (Post 959061)
Hi,

I tried to recreate this to no avail. Are there any special requirements to this? Such as only having that one desktop enabled or something?

Thanks in advance.

Nothing special, i just installed omweather and put the widget on the desktop, and discovered but accident the for some reason the widget,i guess, forced the desktop to portrait mode.....just by pure luck , as they say......thats just really weird, it stopped doing all of a sudden! damn!:mad:

droitwichgas 2011-03-02 19:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arora.rohan (Post 959115)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelZXQjTMUM

Only the task switcher left..damn i love this!..This is actually better than that Ipad 2 news :P!

Blimey you need a new iPad 2 to replace you present camera by the looks of things!!!

arora.rohan 2011-03-02 20:00

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Oh that was a spare 7610 i had lying around somewhere...! :P...

Is this fine ? :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV1sQei7L2M :]!

droitwichgas 2011-03-02 20:08

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arora.rohan (Post 959145)
Oh that was a spare 7610 i had lying around somewhere...! :P...

Is this fine ? :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV1sQei7L2M :]!

I was only joking!!

Mentalist Traceur 2011-03-02 20:26

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 959086)
Surely if the CSSU now allows users the possiblity of configuring the transitions they should be albe to do so with a built in package rather than then having to go and download the package from repos.

Otherwise I can just see the numerous questions on the CSSU thread when end users download the stable version in due course then asking how they configure the transitions which has been listed on the changelog as being configurable. I personally can not imagine anybody who downloads the CSSU will not want to at least try configuring the transitions to start with, even if they then decide to go back to the stock version (which i would of thought is pretty unlikely anyway from my own experince so far)

Just because you want to change the transitions settings doesn't mean you'll want to do it through a GUI. By the same logic, why not package Theme Customizer in with the CSSU? It lets the users edit their themes comfortably, without digging in to the file system, and without having to edit various CSS/xml/whatever files to change, say, font colors.

Same for apps that let you edit the power menu without editing /etc/systemui/systemui.xml manually, or which let you rearrange stuff in the status menu, etc. So why don't we just cram all of that in there? Because at the end of the day, app space is limited, and people who don't want a package shouldn't be stuck getting it installed and un-installing it every time an update for a larger package they do want comes around. If you don't have it packaged with the CSSU, the users who want a GUI lose very little. I assure you, there will be approximately the same amount of stupid questions on some topic either way. The same users who can't find the "CSSU Transition Settings" or whatever you call it in their list of apps-available-for-install in the app managers will probably come here asking how to edit the transitions even if it's automatically installed to their settings menu. Not all of them, but enough to fill the forums with the same questions over and over.

At the end of the day though, if you have it packaged separately, those who want it are only marginally inconvenienced by having to download one more thing, maybe look a little more closely to the main wiki page to see that you need to download the separate app. But if you have them packaged together, the people who don't want those packages are not just slightly inconvenienced, because they have to manually delete them (which if it's part of the same .deb, would require some manual removal of the relevant files, and if it's a seperate .deb that's brought in during installation as a dependency, would probably result in fiddling with dependency errors or control files, every time an update rolls around). And no matter how far in the minority a group is, if their unnecessary inconvenience is far greater than a majority's really minor inconvenience, it's not really fair to let the minuscule advantage to the majority be addressed at the cost of causing the greater inconvenience to the minority.

P.S. I see themes can (as of a couple of updates ago going by the bug comments I found this out from) include a .../backgrounds/applicationmanager-portrait.png to give HAM a portrait background. That makes me rather happy.

funkmunk 2011-03-02 20:27

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900 lover (Post 959119)
Nothing special, i just installed omweather and put the widget on the desktop, and discovered but accident the for some reason the widget,i guess, forced the desktop to portrait mode.....just by pure luck , as they say......thats just really weird, it stopped doing all of a sudden! damn!:mad:

I guess hildon-desktop can only switch to portrait mode if OMWeather widget is on any of the desktops..

Tried rotating hildon-desktop without installing OMWeather & it does not rotate like shown in any of the videos....

Is there another way to rotate hildon-desktop without installing OMWeather?

n900 lover 2011-03-02 20:30

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funkmunk (Post 959163)
I guess hildon-desktop can only switch to portrait mode if OMWeather widget is on any of the desktops..

Tried rotating hildon-desktop without installing OMWeather & it does not rotate like shown in any of the videos....

Is there another way to rotate hildon-desktop without installing OMWeather?

it started working again.... the only other way i know of how to rotate the desktop is holdin down ctrl,blue arrow, shift and press L and it should rotate ur desktop.

droitwichgas 2011-03-02 20:35

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 959162)
Just because you want to change the transitions settings doesn't mean you'll want to do it through a GUI. By the same logic, why not package Theme Customizer in with the CSSU? It lets the users edit their themes comfortably, without digging in to the file system, and without having to edit various CSS/xml/whatever files to change, say, font colors.

Same for apps that let you edit the power menu without editing /etc/systemui/systemui.xml manually, or which let you rearrange stuff in the status menu, etc. So why don't we just cram all of that in there? Because at the end of the day, app space is limited, and people who don't want a package shouldn't be stuck getting it installed and un-installing it every time an update for a larger package they do want comes around. If you don't have it packaged with the CSSU, the users who want a GUI lose very little. I assure you, there will be approximately the same amount of stupid questions on some topic either way. The same users who can't find the "CSSU Transition Settings" or whatever you call it in their list of apps-available-for-install in the app managers will probably come here asking how to edit the transitions even if it's automatically installed to their settings menu. Not all of them, but enough to fill the forums with the same questions over and over.

At the end of the day though, if you have it packaged separately, those who want it are only marginally inconvenienced by having to download one more thing, maybe look a little more closely to the main wiki page to see that you need to download the separate app. But if you have them packaged together, the people who don't want those packages are not just slightly inconvenienced, because they have to manually delete them (which if it's part of the same .deb, would require some manual removal of the relevant files, and if it's a seperate .deb that's brought in during installation as a dependency, would probably result in fiddling with dependency errors or control files, every time an update rolls around). And no matter how far in the minority a group is, if their unnecessary inconvenience is far greater than a majority's really minor inconvenience, it's not really fair to let the minuscule advantage to the majority be addressed at the cost of causing the greater inconvenience to the minority.

P.S. I see themes can (as of a couple of updates ago going by the bug comments I found this out from) include a .../backgrounds/applicationmanager-portrait.png to give HAM a portrait background. That makes me rather happy.

Just my view but I would imagine most end users who will download the stable CSSU to get access to the protrait transitions and so will want the GUI, which I cannot see will take up that much memory space?, and once downloaded they wll never delete. Editing the power menu seems a different ball game to me.

However it is clearly down to MAG & Jaffa what they decide they went to do at the end of the day.

funkmunk 2011-03-02 20:41

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900 lover (Post 959165)
it started working again.... the only other way i know of how to rotate the desktop is holdin down ctrl,blue arrow, shift and press L and it should rotate ur desktop.

I tried ur combo and it seems to work but is there any other widget that also forces hildon-desktop to rotate just like the OMWeather widget??

If not then is it possible to make hildon-desktop rotate just like all other screens in a future release of the CSSU??

MONVMENTVM 2011-03-02 21:02

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funkmunk (Post 959172)
I tried ur combo and it seems to work but is there any other widget that also forces hildon-desktop to rotate just like the OMWeather widget??

If not then is it possible to make hildon-desktop rotate just like all other screens in a future release of the CSSU??

Yeah it should be easily doable... but I guess the devs will try to develop something first to rearrange the icons and widgets as like I see it now it just doesn't make much sense if you cant see half of your icons and stuff. This will be the more difficult part of it though... let's see, they did a great job until now!

Jaffa 2011-03-02 21:39

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 959162)
I see themes can (as of a couple of updates ago going by the bug comments I found this out from) include a .../backgrounds/applicationmanager-portrait.png to give HAM a portrait background. That makes me rather happy.

Indeed. HAM now includes some bastardised versions of the "alpha" (blue) and "beta" (orange) default themes I did with GIMP :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM (Post 959188)
Yeah it should be easily doable... but I guess the devs will try to develop something first to rearrange the icons and widgets as like I see it now it just doesn't make much sense if you cant see half of your icons and stuff. This will be the more difficult part of it though... let's see, they did a great job until now!

It's damn hard. I've been playing with some algorithms. The prototype changes:

http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View2.png

...into...

http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View2-portrait.png

It tries to keep an approximate relationship of the order of the items, but at least will give a starting point to maintain your own layout where things are roughly in the right place. And, most importantly, visible.


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