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Feathers McGraw 2015-07-30 18:25

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
My TOHKBD arrived today! :D

Still getting used to the layout (I know the arrows are on the left, but my thumbs still autopilot to the right!) and the keys are stil very stiff, but i like it a lot. It feels so good to be able to reclaim the whole screen for displaying things instead of having half of it eaten by a virtual keyboard.

My phone part doesn't fit very well along one long edge, like it isn't clipped in properly, but no matter how much i press it it won't snap into place. Initially the board wasn't seated properly in the case at one end and the TOH wouldn't fit on the phone at all, but i managed to press that into position (tight fit!).

The backplate on the keyboard part doesn't fit in the case at one end and it is making the keypad bow slightly, so I guess I'll have to take it apart and sand it down. I read it's glued in, is it secured with adhesive tape like the stuff often used to fix tablet display assemblies to frames?

One more thing... the software is awesome, all the options I wanted and more! Thanks Kimmo, and thanks to Dirk and Andrew for their efforts, TOHKBD completes the Jolla for me :)

MikeHG 2015-07-30 21:39

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog...

Ahem. Sorry, don't mind me. Thanks Dirk, Kimmo and Andrew - mine arrived in the UK today. Looks surprisingly professional (I don't mean that to suggest my expectations were very low... it really does look like it could have been produced by a multinational company), a good fit, and seems to work pretty well! (couple of stiff keys, but I reckon they'll loosen up).

tetris11_ 2015-07-30 22:22

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers! :D

It came woo! Little bit rusty but my fingers are adapting to the layout fairly quick - ondevice programming here I come!

I was really chuffed when I saw your names printed in the inside cover, really guys thanks for delivering on everything :D

ssahla 2015-07-30 22:23

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1478314)
My phone part doesn't fit very well along one long edge, like it isn't clipped in properly, but no matter how much i press it it won't snap into place.

I had this too. See my earlier post:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...90#post1476190

tetris11_ 2015-07-31 04:18

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
(if this is not the right thread, mods feel free to move/delete)

@kimmoli - Ive noticed that long established universal shortcuts aren't being registered in browsers: stock, webcat, and webpirate.

* ctrl+x, ctrl+v, and ctrl+c dont register.

Is this to do with the right control characters being sent (if such exist), or are all three of these mobile apps not built with keyboard functionality in mind, or is Jolla's clipboard getting in the way?

* other navigation shortcuts like alt+left, backspace, and alt+right are not picked up either.

Edit: okay I got copy cut paste to work in webcat (and presumably webpirate too) by changing the user agent to Desktop, but still no alt-dpad navigation.

taixzo 2015-07-31 06:45

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Is there anywhere where one can still order a TOHKBD? I did not have the funds to do so until now.

Tsippaduida 2015-07-31 07:42

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
I think Dirk told earlier on this thread that TOHKBD2 is sold out. You might want periodically check in
http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9

You might want to contact funkyotherhalf and request one. If there are enough requests, who knows, maybe the guys will run another batch.

Otherwise you can try to buy one when they appear for sale, if that fails, you can build your own (schemas and drawings will likely be available).

There are naturally more drastic options for aqquiring one. Not recommended. :)

yawuji 2015-07-31 08:16

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1478346)
Is there anywhere where one can still order a TOHKBD? I did not have the funds to do so until now.

Check in the Buy & Sell section of this forum. Have seen couple of ads saying TOHKBD2 for sale..

http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=27

dirkvl 2015-07-31 15:41

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsippaduida (Post 1478347)
I think Dirk told earlier on this thread that TOHKBD2 is sold out. You might want periodically check in
http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9

You might want to contact funkyotherhalf and request one. If there are enough requests, who knows, maybe the guys will run another batch.\

I do not know how to make it anymore clear than the info on the shop page. It already haz *official* tags around it. No.

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-01 09:49

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ssahla (Post 1478332)
I had this too. See my earlier post:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...90#post1476190

Just wanted to confirm that this worked for me. I used a fairly fine file instead of sandpaper, didn't have to take much off at all before it snapped in nicely (the board of the contact pad is still not flush with the edge of the circuitboard, so I could take off more if necessary).

Thanks again for the pointer. I think my keys are starting to loosen up a bit too :)

I still need to take a bit off one corner of the carbon backplate so it fits in the case of the keyboard part. Can anyone confirm whether I'll have to re-apply glue if I take the back off, or is it the kind of glue that will remain tacky?

MikeHG 2015-08-01 11:49

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1478435)
Can anyone confirm whether I'll have to re-apply glue if I take the back off, or is it the kind of glue that will remain tacky?

https://together.jolla.com/question/...sponsive-keys/

Suggestion in this question is to use a hair dryer...

minimos 2015-08-01 12:21

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
I have the opposite of one of the FAQ entries :)
Is it possible to force the VKB to open, while the TOHKBD is attached?
Sometimes I don't find, cannot see :o or cannot type one unusual character and it would be nice to get the VKB temporarily opened just for that.

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-01 12:59

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHG (Post 1478439)
https://together.jolla.com/question/...sponsive-keys/

Suggestion in this question is to use a hair dryer...

Thanks, I knew how I was going to get the plate off, just not whether the glue would need replacing after removing the backplate.

Anyway, it turns out I didn't have to file anything off the backplate, I was able to just heat the glue and push the corner down into position.

MikeHG 2015-08-01 14:22

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1478443)
I have the opposite of one of the FAQ entries :)
Is it possible to force the VKB to open, while the TOHKBD is attached?
Sometimes I don't find, cannot see :o or cannot type one unusual character and it would be nice to get the VKB temporarily opened just for that.

If the plan is to eventually allow simultaneous use, so you can use word prediction, it'd be great if you could toggle the vkbd with a hardware key combo.

dirkvl 2015-08-01 17:19

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Assembled all I can, few I cant send due to missing parts (ordered obviously). Listed here with colours indicating the issue.

Starting on doing repairs tomorrow, then making second kbs for those I missed.

mscion 2015-08-02 03:08

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Arrived today! To dirkvl and all others that played a roll in making TOHKBD happen, thank you very much for all your efforts!

evadim 2015-08-02 08:38

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1478377)
I do not know how to make it anymore clear than the info on the shop page. It already haz *official* tags around it. No.

I suspect, it's impossible :( In today consumer world people think what they can buy anything they need, whenever they want...

Copernicus 2015-08-02 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by evadim (Post 1478492)
In today consumer world people think what they can buy anything they need, whenever they want...

:) In fact, this is one of the most basic tenets of modern economic theory:

Quote:

Scarcity is the fundamental economic problem of having seemingly unlimited human wants in a world of limited resources.

sunsurfer 2015-08-02 20:19

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1478478)
Arrived today! To dirkvl and all others that played a roll in making TOHKBD happen, thank you very much for all your efforts!

Thanks to all from me.

yawuji 2015-08-02 20:42

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
@MikeHG,@ Feathers McGraw,@ tetris11_,

Sorry to bother you guys again. Just want to ask whether your TOHKBD2 was delivered by Royal Mail ??
Mine has not come yet. I was expecting it to be delivered atleast yesterday as you all received the package on Thursday.

MikeHG 2015-08-02 20:58

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Must have been - only thing it says on the box is "PostNL", and I didn't sign for it or anything.

yawuji 2015-08-02 21:43

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHG (Post 1478549)
Must have been - only thing it says on the box is "PostNL", and I didn't sign for it or anything.

Thanks a lot ..

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-02 21:53

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yawuji (Post 1478545)
Sorry to bother you guys again. Just want to ask whether your TOHKBD2 was delivered by Royal Mail ??

Yeah, they posted it through the letterbox. Are you in the highlands?

yawuji 2015-08-02 22:46

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1478558)
Yeah, they posted it through the letterbox. Are you in the highlands?

Thanks Feathers M.
No, I am in Ashford, Kent..

malkavian 2015-08-03 07:50

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
OMG! I have it now in my hands! :D

http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums...ew%20Years.gif

Edited for add: Thank you Andrew, Kimmo, and Dirk You guys are ****ing masters ;)

tetris11_ 2015-08-03 08:07

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
@yawuji thats odd - is your order number in the dodgy pile list in the orders sheet?

yawuji 2015-08-03 08:54

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tetris11_ (Post 1478584)
@yawuji thats odd - is your order number in the dodgy pile list in the orders sheet?

My Ord number(#832) is not in that list. I have received the notification email same day as you and Feathers M. That's why I am bit worried ..

mced 2015-08-03 11:08

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1478581)
OMG! I have it now in my hands! :D

(Jim Carrey GIF)

**Remainder: go together.jolla.com and ask for a way to disable image loading in stock browser. Specifically, 25MB+ images when you've got a 1GB monthly limit.

:D Just kidding, now at home.

Congratulations to all the happy owners!

Amboss 2015-08-04 09:56

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1478456)
Assembled all I can, few I cant send due to missing parts (ordered obviously). Listed here with colours indicating the issue.

Starting on doing repairs tomorrow, then making second kbs for those I missed.

NOOOOOOOOOO, of all 1000ish kbds I am one of the indicated red... this is ... *sigh*

mced 2015-08-04 10:53

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Mine's at home! (luckily I chose orange instead of red, sorry Amboss).

My eternal gratitude, Kimmoli, Dirk and Andrew. Jolla Inc. and you have made the only son of the N900/950, the last pocket computer and the last defense line against the big army of virtual keyboard fools (well, Blackberry is there too, but there's no comparison) and their over-muscled thumbs.

By the way, Kimmoli, have you checked your "rage comic" avatar is not copyrighted?

Let's start to mess keymap files up...

Amboss 2015-08-04 12:53

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mced (Post 1478670)
Mine's at home! (luckily I chose orange instead of red, sorry Amboss).

That's the worst part about it. I was undecided on exactly those two and chose red eventually. Even when I looked up my decision later on, I kept asking myself why red and not orange (green and orange are the favourite colours at home). And now this... *sigh*

zenecho 2015-08-04 12:58

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Is it possible to turn off the short cut feature?
I use Midnight commander to access my linux server and the keyboard works wonderfully apart from the fact I need F1, F2, F3 etc as shortcuts built into MC?

zenecho 2015-08-04 12:59

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
bugger just found it! - thanks

mced 2015-08-04 19:13

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Offtopic. Quoting myself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mced (Post 1478596)
**Remainder: go together.jolla.com and ask for a way to disable image loading in stock browser.

Got it: "about:config", "permissions.default.image=2" turns off image loading.

I was bored and I've made a script:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...ookie-control/

MartinK 2015-08-04 21:51

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Got my red #571! :)

http://modrana.org/images/toh_kbd_v2/red_toh_kbd_v2.JPG

The Red Ones Go Faster! :)

http://modrana.org/images/toh_kbd_v2...comparison.JPG
Side-by-side comparison with blue DipTOH

And yet again - huge thanks to the TOHKBD team - you are awesome! :D

dirkvl 2015-08-05 09:33

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1478699)
Got my red #571! :)

http://modrana.org/images/toh_kbd_v2/red_toh_kbd_v2.JPG

The Red Ones Go Faster! :)

http://modrana.org/images/toh_kbd_v2...comparison.JPG
Side-by-side comparison with blue DipTOH

And yet again - huge thanks to the TOHKBD team - you are awesome! :D

<3 DipTOH <3

drnest 2015-08-05 10:12

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenecho (Post 1478675)
Is it possible to turn off the short cut feature?
I use Midnight commander to access my linux server and the keyboard works wonderfully apart from the fact I need F1, F2, F3 etc as shortcuts built into MC?

In TOHKBD settting, Shortcuts, click on F10 (or any key you want), pull down for access pulley menu and select "Nothing, use as F10"

In mc you can also use Esc number (to simulate F10, press Esc, release and then press 0)

dirkvl 2015-08-05 11:18

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
'please include a note explaining the issue with your tohkbd'

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/jrm6y9vmt43z2b6/P1020754.JPG

mced 2015-08-05 11:32

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
LOL, LOL and re-LOL.

Please, tell me that's a joke and no dude has ever print out a 10MB log and sent you by mail. I must keep this little faith in human being.

jamar 2015-08-05 12:56

Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenecho (Post 1478675)
...I use Midnight commander to access my linux server...

Hi, did you managed to get MC work with UTF-8? I tried fiddling with locales and TERM variables, but MC still uses ANSI encoding...


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