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chrisp7 2009-11-18 14:23
Re: OPK: N900 deliveries have now started!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcs1000 (Post 380744)
Just spoke to Nokia Store, Regent's Street. The man on the phone (who claimed to be called 'Dan'), said "beginning of next week".

But that may - of course - be the beginning of next week for those who hadn't pre-ordered with them.
I went in - and they told me tomorrow/the next day. They really dont know do they!

Fargus 2009-11-18 14:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ewan (Post 380607)
I think that you're probably right, but the fact remains that Nokia UK have been telling people something else. If there'd been a nice clear announcement on the tenth that said they'd started shipping and would be in stores on the 23rd then I think people would have been a lot calmer. It's not so much the wait that's the problem as it s the being told things that aren't true.
The Nokia UK staff being quoted are actually MPD staff who are not Nokia, they just run the shops for them. I do however agree that they ought not to be making stuff up but they are salesmen so I think that would be asking the impossible!

Jidi 2009-11-18 14:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njoughin (Post 380752)
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1355897

The Nokia N900 is now available to US consumers

Finally! I just hope everybody will be relaxed from now on :)
Even that I'm not in US, I'm happy that this will be finally over.

ShopBLT was saying 18/11 from beginning ... well, they were right.

draco.bdn 2009-11-18 14:29
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The German Nokia page updated some information about the N900. They are showing off that it is superfast and open source and ready for - guess what - preorder ;)

Shop still says 25th November, but they're making some sort of: "There IS something more coming at the 24th November". Maybe the N920 for preorder? Really don't know...

dccupp 2009-11-18 14:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by draco.bdn (Post 380768)
The German Nokia page updated some information about the N900. They are showing off that it is superfast and open source and ready for - guess what - preorder ;)

Shop still says 25th November, but they're making some sort of: "There IS something more coming at the 24th November". Maybe the N920 for preorder? Really don't know...
The E72? :D

mattaustin 2009-11-18 14:40
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@nokia: The Nokia N900 is now available to US consumers: A computer in your pocket - The Nokia N900 is here! WhitePlain.. http://tinyurl.com/yhajx3q

https://twitter.com/nokia/statuses/5827510558

draco.bdn 2009-11-18 14:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dccupp (Post 380776)
The E72? :D
E72 is out :D

http://www.nokia.de/nokia/presseloft...?newsid=-30372

hashier 2009-11-18 14:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharper (Post 380681)
There are pros and cons to any phone and platform.

Android is a definite possibility but it's still very new. We're only now seeing what will happen when there's a wide range of devices out there. Building Android apps for one or two very similar devices is one thing, building apps for a wide range of devices is very different.
I think there will be more Android phones by the end of this year than Maemo5 powered devices. A few manufactures have announced they want bring a Android phone to the market but Nokia is the only one who's into Maemo.

Quote:
With the applications I think a lot of developers will be interested because it's Linux + QT.
Yeah, that's the point... I will most likely buy a N900 because of its Linux and GTK/QT but I think I'll wait till both devices are available and check them both.

dccupp 2009-11-18 14:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaark (Post 380750)
By intentionally introducing a long artificial delay.

They pick a date several weeks after shipping that every store is likely to have recieved stock and be ready. Stores receive stock in the meantime but are forbidden to sell it.

They don't tell consumers when they've shipped it and many retailers could have physically sold the device days, if not weeks, before the 'launch' date. .. if it weren't for the manufacturer forcing them to not give their customers what they want.
This whole "shipping from the factory" is a bunch of crap. I don't care when it ships from the factory. I care when I can give them payment and receive the product in return. :mad: :mad: :mad:

draco.bdn 2009-11-18 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hashier (Post 380779)
I think there will be more Android phones by the end of this year than Maemo5 powered devices. A few manufactures have announced they want bring a Android phone to the market but Nokia is the only one who's into Maemo.



Yeah, that's the point... I will most likely buy a N900 because of its Linux and GTK/QT but I think I'll wait till both devices are available and check them both.

Android is more like a base. I used a HTC G1 for at least 5 months. The new version won't run on the G1, some apps don't run correctly on the G1 cause of it's keyboard and I can continue these problems.
I can't remember any good Series60 phone from an other company as Nokia.
Siemens made something "strange" with its SX1 and well... don't know. When Google will release his own Google Phone Android will run the same way as Series60. The real good ones will come from Google, cause they create the OS for THEIR phones, not for the rest...

legendemeritus 2009-11-18 14:48
Nokia Press Release for US customers
 
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1355897

dccupp 2009-11-18 14:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by draco.bdn (Post 380778)
Is it out or is it "shipping from the factory"? :p

sharper 2009-11-18 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hashier (Post 380779)
I think there will be more Android phones by the end of this year than Maemo5 powered devices. A few manufactures have announced they want bring a Android phone to the market but Nokia is the only one who's into Maemo.
Yes that's part of the problem for Android - when you go to the marketplace on your Android device and install an application you're no longer sure the developer tested it on your device.

You can expect Android application compatibility to degrade in 2010. I haven't yet seen any indication Google have their eye on the ball with regard to this problem.

drm 2009-11-18 14:53
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I never saw such a negative campaign. This people are really trying to destroy Nokia.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente..._handsets.html

draco.bdn 2009-11-18 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dccupp (Post 380796)
Is it out or is it "shipping from the factory"? :p
It's out for preorder. What did you thought?! :D

Nokia is creating a new way of running business.
Instead of customers that buy now, and never pay, we now have customers paying now and never get.

That's a great way of making money!

Economics will remember this day for long!

stemfour 2009-11-18 14:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaark (Post 380750)
By intentionally introducing a long artificial delay.

They pick a date several weeks after shipping that every store is likely to have recieved stock and be ready. Stores receive stock in the meantime but are forbidden to sell it.

They don't tell consumers when they've shipped it and many retailers could have physically sold the device days, if not weeks, before the 'launch' date. .. if it weren't for the manufacturer forcing them to not give their customers what they want.
Well Im guessing the idea behind that is so that:

A: Consumers have a definite fixed date to base their purchasing decisions around

B: The manufacturer dont get a constant stream of irate calls to their customer services

C: They seem professional and in control of the deployment of their own product.

So for those reasons, would you not agree that Nokia have been a bit silly, to say the least?

sharper 2009-11-18 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olighak (Post 380803)
Does "lands in the US" mean actually landing at some harbor/airport and then waiting another week before getting to distributors, and 2 before getting to consumers, or does that mean arriving into stores and retailers?
When Nokia uses a Word, It means just what it chooses It to mean, neither more nor less.

switch2ux 2009-11-18 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olighak (Post 380803)
Just to play a devil´s advocate...

Does "lands in the US" mean actually landing at some harbor/airport and then waiting another week before getting to distributors, and 2 before getting to consumers, or does that mean arriving into stores and retailers?

:)

Anyway. I bought a N86 yesterday for the wife. I´ll be content for a while now.
that means ... on their tour to the retailers they drove nearby Area 51 .. but suddenly the aliens came back stole the device and now we all have to wait for the next bunch :D :D :D

drm 2009-11-18 15:03
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Finally…
http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/...ds-in-the-usa/

les_garten 2009-11-18 15:06
Re: OPK: N900 deliveries have now started!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hashier (Post 380666)
I was soo pretty sure about buying the N900 but after viewing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296AI6FDKf8
I'm not that sure anymore....

Worth a look
That's strange! When I watch those videos that's when I definitely wouldn't buy anything else!

switch2ux 2009-11-18 15:08
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Originally Posted by drm (Post 380813)
INCLUDING amazon.com ... !!!

therock 2009-11-18 15:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drm (Post 380800)
I never saw such a negative campaign. This people are really trying to destroy Nokia.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente..._handsets.html
damn that review really give it a negative view on the N900 and special maemo

Hani 2009-11-18 15:12
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The Nokia N900 is available in a black finish and will retail for $649 through Nokia Flagship stores in New York and Chicago, nokiausa.com and various independent retailers and e-tailers including Amazon.com
Does that mean it will be available on all retailers at the same time? :)

NotTheMessiah 2009-11-18 15:13
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By intentionally introducing a long artificial delay.

They pick a date several weeks after shipping that every store is likely to have recieved stock and be ready. Stores receive stock in the meantime but are forbidden to sell it.

They don't tell consumers when they've shipped it and many retailers could have physically sold the device days, if not weeks, before the 'launch' date. .. if it weren't for the manufacturer forcing them to not give their customers what they want.
I'd agree with this but only so far.
I've seen this with software but I cant recall a time i've seen this happen
with any device.
Usually the stock of hardware wont really arrive early at all.

ZackMorris 2009-11-18 15:15
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Hmmm it says its landed in the USA repost?

http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/...sa/#more-11680

ewan 2009-11-18 15:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by therock (Post 380817)
damn that review really give it a negative view on the N900 and special maemo
If you can judge someone by the company they keep:
Quote:
P.S. Watch John C. Dvorak, Rob Enderle, and me
then this chap is a professional troll.

Best ignored.

Rushmore 2009-11-18 15:17
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Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 380693)
More of an overview and no practical insight suggests they did not actually use the device for this "review".

Venomrush 2009-11-18 15:17
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@nokia: The Nokia N900 is now available to US consumers: A computer in your pocket - The Nokia N900 is here!

Full press release @ http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1355897

Funny thing is site still shows N900 as pre-order lol

sharper 2009-11-18 15:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drm (Post 380800)
I never saw such a negative campaign. This people are really trying to destroy Nokia.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente..._handsets.html
Dvorak is infamous for writing inflammatory trollish articles to pump his reader stats

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/06/06/10/1529257.shtml

Quote:
"Tech pundit John Dvorak has long been known for his inflammatory opinions. Many have suspected that these opinions are just a way to drive up traffic to his column. Now, we have it straight from the horse's mouth: Dave Winer has Dvorak on video describing his methodology for trolling the Mac community to pump up his stats."

MountainX 2009-11-18 15:18
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Originally Posted by dccupp (Post 380784)
This whole "shipping from the factory" is a bunch of crap. I don't care when it ships from the factory. I care when I can give them payment and receive the product in return. :mad: :mad: :mad:
don't forget that before this announcement, lots of people were begging for "any info". Nokia gave us the info. I consider this a very positve thing -- they kept us informed, and i appreciated that.

mhotep 2009-11-18 15:21
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OK. It's out now. So who's gonna be the first to run down to a flagship store and pick one up and let us know?

les_garten 2009-11-18 15:23
Re: OPK: N900 deliveries have now started!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by njoughin (Post 380752)
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1355897

The Nokia N900 is now available to US consumers
Available? WTF? Available to me means I can order today and have it tomorrow!!! I got no clues what those Nimrods at Nokia think available means!

Shanezlar 2009-11-18 15:24
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"Nokia lands in the USA"

So the first ship has finally reached Hawaii,
one more week for West Coast :P

att 2009-11-18 15:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 380838)
Available? WTF? Available to me means I can order today and have it tomorrow!!! I got no clues what those Nimrods at Nokia think available means!
It's propably already sold out in USA :)

mchu6am4 2009-11-18 15:27
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Nokia's biggest market and customer base in Europe and where do they start to ship first???

USA - wow!!! what a wonderful announcement!

Shaichico 2009-11-18 15:29
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did anyone see this!!!

http://twitter.com/kiig

att 2009-11-18 15:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mchu6am4 (Post 380842)
Nokia biggest market and customer base in Europe and where do they start to ship first???

USA - wow!!! what a wonderful announcement!
The same thing happened with N800 and N810.

jaark 2009-11-18 15:33
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Originally Posted by NotTheMessiah (Post 380819)
I'd agree with this but only so far.
I've seen this with software but I cant recall a time i've seen this happen
with any device.
Usually the stock of hardware wont really arrive early at all.
Any 'big' launch happens this way. iPhones, Wii, PS3 , XBox etc.etc - They were all in many shop store-rooms days before 'launch'. I never said that there's always enough stock at each store to meet demand, however ;)

sadfist 2009-11-18 15:36
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Originally Posted by mhotep (Post 380836)
OK. It's out now. So who's gonna be the first to run down to a flagship store and pick one up and let us know?
I called the New York flagship yesterday and was "encouraged" by the smug woman on the phone to put my name on a call-list. As she explained it they already had over 200 names on their list and weren't even receiving that many phones. Although supposedly she couldn't give me any info about them getting the phones other than it'd be before Thanksgiving, but ballparking stock status is OK to try and get me to go on their call-list). I declined this opportunity rather than bothering to explain how *****ic the whole situation and idea of pre-ordering was, especially since she just said they wouldn't even be getting 200 phones.

sadfist 2009-11-18 15:37
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Originally Posted by jaark (Post 380854)
Any 'big' launch happens this way. iPhones, Wii, PS3 , XBox etc.etc - They were all in many shop store-rooms days before 'launch'. I never said that there's always enough stock at each store to meet demand, however ;)
The thing that irks me is there often (usually I would bet) is plenty of stock, whether its being held back by the manufacturer or by the stores.


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