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jakiman 2011-05-21 06:43
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
4" possibly 720p HD-res LCD
Dual core STE SoC. (U8500?)
So I'm assuming it has Mali-400 GPU..

Now we need to know RAM and internal storage size. =)
But I'm still really liking what I've heard so far.

zymo 2011-05-21 06:44
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
it’s a pity the consumer device has no KB, the mainstream won again. but nevertheless we get a harmattan-meego device with nice specs.

here is a video of the u8500 in action on meego:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ubl-vMLqw

the dual core U8500 can handle 1080p content! Hope that means recording Full-HD videos with the „n9"

kanishou 2011-05-21 06:55
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1011567)
was / is the N900 a developer device in your book?
The N900 was/is a developer device in your sense of the term, i.e. an enthusiast's toy.

jakiman 2011-05-21 06:56
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
What I hope is it having all the codecs to be able to play at leat up to 720p high profile MKV files.

btw, can anyone confirm it will have CJK language support? (input also)

Daneel 2011-05-21 06:58
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
The specs do sound top notch but considering there is no HW keyboard it can't replace my N900 and that was the only reason i was willing to go for this orphan OS.

i'll just wait out for a real meego device.
In half a year/year this so called top notch hardware will be in every medium range device out there, hopefully some of those will run full fledged meego.

chase15 2011-05-21 07:03
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
u8500 + hw kb.. im sold.. but, no kb for consumer?? no go for me, ill keep my $..

kolos 2011-05-21 07:33
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daneel (Post 1011710)
Nokia just saved me 500 euros!
+1

I'm not developer nor geek, but I'm disappointed if there won't be device with hw keyboard for consumers. I'm enjoying texting with hw keyboard (Google talk and facebook) while I'm sitting on the couch and watching TV. HW keyboard has 2 advantages for me, first is that I can type messages very fast and second is that phone's screen stays much cleaner.
Also HW keyboard is better if you get longer messages or multiple messages in short time, because you have extended sight on the screen and you can see more messages without scrolling them.

onethreealpha 2011-05-21 07:39
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I wonder how many people here who are currently p*ssing and moaning about the lack of hwkb on this, as yet, un-announced device will, in the end, get one anyway once it comes out?

msa 2011-05-21 07:40
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
whats all the talk about "no hardware keyboard"? all the pictures of the alleged n9 we have seen including the teaser show a keyboard. so why would they release it without one in the end?

Diph 2011-05-21 07:44
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1011729)
I wonder how many people here who are currently p*ssing and moaning about the lack of hwkb on this, as yet, un-announced device will, in the end, get one anyway once it comes out?
After N900 I've been using Samsung Galaxy 3. It's really pain in the *** to use the keyboard. How is it with phones with bigger screens than Galaxy 3's 3.2"?

zymo 2011-05-21 07:48
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by msa (Post 1011730)
whats all the talk about "no hardware keyboard"? all the pictures of the alleged n9 we have seen including the teaser show a keyboard. so why would they release it without one in the end?
just read the last 30 pages and you know why. Or just read this http://meetmeego.org/2011/05/21/alle...ce=twitterfeed

sabresh 2011-05-21 08:09
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1011729)
I wonder how many people here who are currently p*ssing and moaning about the lack of hwkb on this, as yet, un-announced device will, in the end, get one anyway once it comes out?
Agree, the lack of HW qwerty is being exaggerated. As long as the VKB works well, it should be fine.

C'mon people, the reason we are here is because we like maemo for its openness and awesomeness ... as long as that is maintained, the keyboard type shouldn't matter.

onethreealpha 2011-05-21 08:10
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diph (Post 1011732)
After N900 I've been using Samsung Galaxy 3. It's really pain in the *** to use the keyboard. How is it with phones with bigger screens than Galaxy 3's 3.2"?
MY HTC Desire has 3.7" screen and I find it ok (got MASSIVELY fat fingers) although on-screen keyboard design can make a big difference, and I wouldn't say that the Desire's swkb is the best around.

My old 5800 was great. smaller screen but a never had problems bashing out long messages on it.

don't get me wrong. I'd prefer a good hwkb.


Maybe I'll write an email to Elop asking him to design and release (for $50 of course) a quad core gazillion mb ram (and hd) 4" 1080p hdmi 100 gazillion mp camera smart phone running native linux Os with completely open drivers, just for us few at TMO.

I'm sure he'll be happy to spend the millions doing it just for a niche market......:rolleyes:

retsaw 2011-05-21 08:16
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123 (Post 1011658)
I haven't said anything.. just confirming stuff or denying it. Like misterc said , so you can consider that useful or not.
I don't suppose you can tell us why you have the keyboardless comsumer version, when the one with the keyboard is for developers?

Quote:
Just stop the debate of which one you will get. There is one device ie the consumer device which will be sold. The rest will not be for mass market... dev phone hence not counted as sales model.
I agree, I don't see the point in arguing about it. Nokia will release what they release, people on here have said numerous times they want a hardware keyboard and if Nokia were going to listen to us, they would have already. I want a hw keyboard myself, I could probably make do with a bluetooth one, but only if it clipped on to the phone like some iPhone ones do, one detached from it is much more of a pain to use, it'd still add unnecessary bulk over a built-in, but I could probably live with that.

ezameht 2011-05-21 08:19
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Thank you guys for the infos in this thread!

I myself would prefer a hw-keyboard (N900 User). However I am open to the idea of a V-keyboard if it really works well (swype etc..)

@Koajwujwer123:
I don't care much about the hardware specs of the phone if everything feels smooth and fast. I am however very interested in playing 1080p mkvs on a large monitor with hdmi input. Is this possible?

morbid 2011-05-21 08:24
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
My first keyboard phone was a 6820, which I later replaced with a 9300i. I now have an N900... I obviously prefer physical keyboards. So I guess I'll just have to try to somehow get a dev model phone.

The specs for the consumer phone does look really good though.... so maybe I'll get it for my wife. Oh wait, she also has always had physical keyboards too. Maybe I'll get it for my daughter... ah, but she's always had physical keyboards too. Hrm... maybe my mom could use it, since she never sends sms or does any typing.

As someone said earlier, it seems (opinion) like it would be a great idea for Nokia to release their top tier phones with and without a keyboard.

tissot 2011-05-21 08:26
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1011748)
@Koajwujwer123:
I don't care much about the hardware specs of the phone if everything feels smooth and fast. I am however very interested in playing 1080p mkvs on a large monitor with hdmi input. Is this possible?
Exactly!

Only question from me is can we expect to see the nonqwerty phone announced next week? If not is it possible in next month or will this be again waiting for over a year(a'la RM-680)?

Vaskinn 2011-05-21 08:33
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1011729)
I wonder how many people here who are currently p*ssing and moaning about the lack of hwkb on this, as yet, un-announced device will, in the end, get one anyway once it comes out?
I might still get it. But the chances of that would be much higher ig it had a hw keyboard, so I'll have to examine the rest of the specs, and the included sw a lot harder.

I'll also be very interested in knowing what the requirements for getting a dev device would be.

Funny thing is if it turns out to be real we now have users here that may just be some random guy on the internet that made a guess and got lucky. But when they make their next guess a lot more people will believe it so they're in a brilliant trolling position.

mece 2011-05-21 08:43
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
this really puts me in a difficult position. on one hand I develop on device, so the new developer device would be perfect, but I'm also a consumer, and I want the latest stuff, and in particular I want a fm transmitter, which the dev device lacks afaik.

regarding vkb's, how fast you type is completely irrelevant for me. I'm sure I could learn to type fast on a vkb, but until they come up with a vkb that doesn't take up screen realestate, I will require a real kbd.

I hope I'll be able to get both :)

Jedibeeftrix 2011-05-21 08:44
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1011538)
Y'know, if you're right (and I have no way of knowing if you are or not at this point) the tech media are going to bust Nokia's balls like never before. A teaser is leaked showing a keyboard, that matches all the photos we've seen in the past year, FCC reports show schematics for a keyboard, and then (according to you, Elop's masseur) it will be touchscreen only.

Engadget, Pocketnow, Slashgear, all of them will write stuff that will damage Nokia's reputation, simply because it won't make any sense.
had you considered that there has been a rash of 'nokia' people on the forums ever since a video of a keyboard harmattan device was leaked onto the internet.

a device the 'nokia' people quickly brand as a developer toy based on an old unreleased model, along with the assertion that the consumer device will be a candybar.

does that come across as damage control to you...........?

onethreealpha 2011-05-21 08:53
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Well my dream option would be something like the Fujitsu loox, keeping the dual OS (i actually like symbian as a pure phone OS) and dumping Winblows 7 for Meego Tablet UX.

i've been looking for a hwkb upgrade for my N900 for a few months as I want to keep the N900 dedicated for Meego DE tinkering (started playing with QT), and I'm unimpressed enough with Android to be very restricted on choice.
ATM the SE Xperia Pro seems like a maybe....
I've had the Desire for a while now but still use the N900 as my main device.

Failing a hwkb option, I'm happy to try the harmattan consumer device (never in a million years could I pass myself off as a dev)

kolos 2011-05-21 08:54
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
With phones which have at least 3.5" we are already condemned to use both hands for typing messages. So benefit of HW keyboard is faster typing, full sight on the screen and usage of shortcuts.

My girlfriend has LG GT540 and she is significantly slower then me when we chat over Talk. Also she needs constantly to scroll up to read my multiple replies. Probably she will sell GT540 and get phone with HW keyboard. Maybe she will go for second handed N900, because she really likes mine.

As many people here I don't care much about phone's specs. I only expect similar device as N900, but which works much smoother and have better Nokia's support. I would be satisfied just with that if we could upgrade our N900 with new motherboard which will have single core 1.2 GHz CPU, better GPU and 512 MB ram.

kanishou 2011-05-21 09:00
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1011712)
No hw keyboard?????

Seriously, wtf :/

I'm pretty sure 95% of the community wants a keyboard, why the hell doesn't they just make more of those "developer edition" phones then?

Nokia is really bugging me now.......
I would be surprised if there won't be enough of those phones to cover those 95% of the community.

It is not _that_ large after all. I hope that everyone who really desperately wants one will be able to get one of those devices, but we'll see.

benny1967 2011-05-21 09:00
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
It wouldn't be so bad to know that the keyboard-variant is 'only' meant to be te developer model and so on... Let the masses have their touch screen only candybar... I don't mind.

It's just that I really want the keyboard and chances are I can't just go and buy it somewhere.

Dual Core and giga-/tera-/whatnot-hertz is all nice but not so important. Even with Swype a virtual keyboard is just a very bad comprompise.

low life 2011-05-21 09:05
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I'll keep an open mind towards not having a hardware keyboard. Before I got my N900 I didn't really care if a phone had a keyboard or not, but on the N900 it's just so much easier to get things done with the keyboard, and the things I can do just with the keyboard make it a completely unique mobile experience. It's not just there for quick typing, I can switch through apps with it, open apps, close apps, connect to/disconnect from networks..

However, pretty much all of this is done by community (well, just Matan, actually), and I doubt that the new device would receive the same kind of features even if it did have a keyboard. As such, the only benefit of having a keyboard would be the better typing experience, and since I don't really type that much on the go it isn't a must have for me.

Jedibeeftrix 2011-05-21 09:08
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1011671)
Haven't read the last 30 or so pages.
But yes, I can now confirm this as well. Everything about the consumer device was new to me, until some minutes ago. All I knew was about the developer device.
There'll be the developer device, which will be distibuted to.. well.. developers^^ For example at the MeeGo Conference (if they didn't changed plans in the last 48 hours).
It's not thrown away money, because it was already produced some time ago and since then it's in Nokias warehouse.
The teaser is neither thrown away money, because the device has to be presented to the community in any way.
It wasn't sold (selling it commercially was the initial plan) because someone decided the OS wasn't ready. That is (among others) also the reason why some high Nokia employees quit their jobs some time ago. (Best regards, if you're reading this, still miss you)

The consumer device won't get a keyboard. It will have better hardware (developer: 1Ghz A8 (but newer production process than the N900, therefore lower battery consumption and higher performance) consumer: Dual Core ST Ericsson). That doesn't mean that the developer device does have bad hardware. I think it's a really amazing and well built device.

edit: btw. I'm in San Francisco atm. Sorry in advanced, probably I can't comment here as much as I'd like to.
this news has made me happy, thank you.

NvyUs 2011-05-21 09:14
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Thank God zehjotkah as confirmed everything I have been claiming perhaps now people will stop questioning my integrity just b/c i would not post sources

tissot 2011-05-21 09:17
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1011772)
Thank God zehjotkah as confirmed everything I have been claiming perhaps now people will stop questioning my integrity just b/c i would not post sources
While you are at it do you have any kind of time frame for the nonqwerty release or announcement?
If it indeed got different SOC we might have to wait for that for some time, hopefully not though.

marrat 2011-05-21 09:21
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
So the question still is for all those people wanting the QWERTY device: How to sign-up for a developer device program, or something similar, to get such a device? What are the possibilities for normal guys like me to buy one, except for waiting until some of them pop up for horrendous prices on eBay?

Any info on that?

IcyMoustache 2011-05-21 09:21
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
before December 2010, I didnt even know that "Maemo" existed... simply because I never came across a Maemo device either in Nokia store, or a Maemo user... I rarely followed tech-news (yes, true)

In December, my prev. phone (e51) finally broke down, and I entered the tech-space searching for a phone with a good keyboard. And thats where after many searches I came to N900... Went through the OS specs, and it took me hardly one day to be convinced that this was "the one".

True, I came late through the party, and that too through the backdoor (keyboard). Also true that after december, I have been in absolute awe of this device, and this forum.... absolute awe my friends....

Nokia, if it truly listens to its customers, should realize that there are all kinds of people in this world, and if it wants market domination, should sell to all types of people.

Understand that from a UI design perspective, having a HW kb makes matters clumsy when the primary usage is portrait. But still as pointed out somewhere, Nokia should thnk on its feet and stop copying Iphone...

HWKB 2011-05-21 09:21
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
really long time reader 1st time poster.

Can't believe I've registered over this but wanted to also express the fact I really want a hwkb.

I didnt come here for the FOSS etc. I didnt even know what linux was untill I got my N900!

I CAME FOR THE KEYBOARD!

I really cant get on with vkb's and dont know how I will live without keyboard shortcuts. Cant imagine selecting text without shift+dpad or copying and pasting onscreen.
I dont think ive ever used the onscreen browser back button and rarely switch tasks without using the Ctrl+bkspace shortcut.

I am now hooked on open source etc. but i really dont know if i can take a device without a hwkb.

anyway rant over. lets hope they prove us all wrong with something brilliant!

EDIT: since I went to register look how many are saying the same as me. All the "noobs" that joined this community a year and a half ago didnt come for any reason but the hardware!

I also know another 4 people who have N900's and know nothing of the OS etc. but Love the hardware!!!

NvyUs 2011-05-21 09:24
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1011774)
While you are at it do you have any kind of time frame for the nonqwerty release or announcement?
If it indeed got different SOC we might have to wait for that for some time, hopefully not though.
The gap between dev device going to devs and Consumer device being release wont be that long apart, as i said before around a month or so difference,
btw this is a Nokia Month so could be 2012 :D joke

IcyMoustache 2011-05-21 09:24
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
hey hwkb, what a coincidence we posted the same thing at the same time :p

HWKB 2011-05-21 09:29
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyMoustache (Post 1011788)
hey hwkb, what a coincidence we posted the same thing at the same time :p
I edited my post to reflect this.

I feel very strongly about it.

Nokia need to sit up and listen!

tissot 2011-05-21 09:31
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1011787)
The gap between dev device going to devs and Consumer device being release wont be that long apart, as i said before around a month or so difference,
btw this is a Nokia Month so could be 2012 :D joke
:D
I hope you are in the right ballpark with that estimate.
Hopefully the announcement would happen next month at it's latest.

morbid 2011-05-21 09:37
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I do wish the N9 keyboard (assuming it's the same as in the old N9 pics) was more unix friendly. Like having a '/' that didn't require shifting... and pipes that didn't require the symbols popup. The 4th keyboard row is a welcome addition though.

The 9300 keyboard was really good... it made putty very usable.

retsaw 2011-05-21 09:42
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by morbid (Post 1011792)
I do wish the N9 keyboard (assuming it's the same as in the old N9 pics) was more unix friendly. Like having a '/' that didn't require shifting... and pipes that didn't require the symbols popup. The 4th keyboard row is a welcome addition though.
The great thing about the N900 running Linux is that is is very customizable, check the wiki for info on how the mod the default keymapping and you may never need to open the symbols vkb again.

qwazix 2011-05-21 09:47
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diph (Post 1011732)
After N900 I've been using Samsung Galaxy 3. It's really pain in the *** to use the keyboard. How is it with phones with bigger screens than Galaxy 3's 3.2"?
the wp7 one on 3.8 16:10 is very nice to use. I don't know what theyve done but beats out every other swkb
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BUY GLASS BONGS

olighak 2011-05-21 09:50
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Did anyone here modify the on screen keyboard in the N900? How difficult was it?

It was a breeze to modify the HW keyboard, much more challenging to modify the bluetooth keyboard profile and I gave up on the Virtual keyboard.

Unless something´s changed the device will be of lesser use to me as I´d be limited to the symbols/letters I can write.

Like some others I bought the N900 because of the hardware keyboard. That was spec #1 when I was out looking for devices last time. And it still is.

vi_ 2011-05-21 09:51
Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Wtf is this? Are you jerking me off?

How the **** am i to enter 'double tab' into xterm without a convoluted set faggoty 'screen gestures'?

Fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu

why why why why why??

You had the winning formula, i woulda given you all my money just for a successor to the n900 and now you come up with this steaming lump of stinking animal ****.

Fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu

nnoooookkkkkiiiiiaaaaaaaaaa.

:(


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