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Van-ess 2014-11-03 23:53

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
My account seems to be blocked now. Is it caused by using of unofficial client? And what can I do to unblock my account?

NEW: found solution here. https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/278

TMavica 2014-11-04 03:39

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
my friends got banned to with previous mitakuuluu pervious..
I am thinking switch to android whatsapp too

coderus 2014-11-04 05:39

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
@TMavica best decision at moment.

Leinad 2014-11-04 06:59

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
is there any specific action, that causes the blocking?
like sending image, sending broadcast or something like that?
or did you get blocked, just by having the app running?

i think it would be helpful to know peoples "last action" before they got blocked.

TMavica 2014-11-04 07:45

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1445710)
is there any specific action, that causes the blocking?
like sending image, sending broadcast or something like that?
or did you get blocked, just by having the app running?

i think it would be helpful to know peoples "last action" before they got blocked.

my fd open mitakuuluu overnight, then sleep, after wake see registration failed. And confirmed it got banned from android whatsapp registration

coderus 2014-11-04 08:24

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
i dont know exact reason

traysh 2014-11-04 12:59

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
You people who got banned: was "Use connection keepalive" setting enabled in your mitaakuuluu?

willi6868 2014-11-04 13:15

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by traysh (Post 1445773)
You people who got banned: was "Use connection keepalive" setting enabled in your mitaakuuluu?

I am not using this and I didn't got blocked (knocking on wood!). :D

traysh 2014-11-04 13:22

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by traysh (Post 1445773)
You people who got banned: was "Use connection keepalive" setting enabled in your mitaakuuluu?

It's the setting right bellow the server choice (c3.whatsapp.net is the default server choice)

(I'm explaining this because mitakuuluu was translated to many languages)

TMavica 2014-11-04 14:20

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by traysh (Post 1445780)
It's the setting right bellow the server choice (c3.whatsapp.net is the default server choice)

(I'm explaining this because mitakuuluu was translated to many languages)

I have enabled it and using c3 server
until now, no blocking

coderus 2014-11-04 15:15

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
keepalive is sailfishos feature, not whatsapp :)

traysh 2014-11-04 17:18

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1445802)
keepalive is sailfishos feature, not whatsapp :)

Some months ago I lost my registration in whatsapp while using mitakuuluu (but was not banned) and had to register again. It happened after mitakuuluu tried to reconnect to Whatsapp network too aggressively, when using the "keepalive" option. When keepalive was disabled, mitakuuluu seemed to be a lot less agressive trying to reconnect.

Some weeks after that happened to me, it happened to my brother. So I was thinking maybe the users are not being blocked because whatsapp detected they are using an unsupported protocol, but because they are trying to connect to the server too aggressively.

What do you think, is this possible?

coderus 2014-11-04 18:00

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
keepalive is sailfishos feature, not whatsapp, it's not related.

cvp 2014-11-05 06:32

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
The same is now with me. Am blocked and can not register to me. Neither via sms or via phone call. No plan if I had c3 server and to keep alive.

Leinad 2014-11-05 07:58

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
just a thought: it seems to be a special problem / suspicious feature / option in Mitakuuluu. i found no reports of recently banned users in threads of Yappari / Whatsup or other unofficial clients...

cvp 2014-11-05 08:32

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
no its not fail from mitäkuuluu,
here is a news in germany:
http://winfuture.de/news,84376.html

whatsapp bocked users with different unauthentificated clients.


Solution:
https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/278

support@whatsapp.com

but for how long it will work?

Time to change to textsecure or xmpp with mitakuuluu ui. Maybe coderus accept spending money to do that ;) ... maybe not

malkavian 2014-11-05 09:40

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
I deactivated Keepalive just in case. If I get blocked I won't be able to register again. The phone number I am using is not mine any more (is an alias from Fonyou service, but they closed). Moreover, if I get blocked, probably I won't use Whatsapp more. I won't give them my real phone number.

I hope kontalk guys finish soon their client (now in betas) and get promotioned by free software community... Is almost just xmpp, is all open protocol, is all free (libre) software, have syndicated servers, OTR encryption...

Leinad 2014-11-05 11:09

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1445950)
no its not fail from mitäkuuluu,
here is a news in germany:
http://winfuture.de/news,84376.html

whatsapp bocked users with different unauthentificated clients.

thanks, interesting article, but what i mean is:
it's nothing new, that they want to block inofficial clients, the big difference for us is, now they can block Mitakuuluu, but not e.g. Yappari as it seems by now, so there must be an important difference, we need to find out.

coderus 2014-11-05 11:22

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Yapapri and Whatsup using old protocol, same with S40/Symbian whatsapp, which won't be changed anymore because of too much legacy devices. Mitakuuluu is always on the edge and using latest protocol with all new features :)

Boxeri 2014-11-05 13:10

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Changed to official Whatsapp for time being. The official app is terrible compared to Mitakuuluu in my oppinion...

Anyone know if there is an easy way of importing contacts to android side? Now that I am trying to add contacts through Whatsapp it says not supported.

coderus 2014-11-05 13:15

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
@Boxeri reboot/restart aliendalvik. Whatsapp will load your contacts then.

coderus 2014-11-05 15:25

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Anybody with paid accounts was banned?
Anybody who registered with android whatsapp and imported account iinto Mitakuuluu, and not registered via Mitakuuluu itself was banned?

LameDuck 2014-11-05 16:06

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
EDIT: Sorry, my memory played a trick on me. While it is true that I was banned I registered my account using the N9 (inofficial) wazaapp Client and NOT the android Version. Sorry for confusion...

[SIZE="2"]Yep to No° 2. I was banned on sunday (I think). My account was registered on android and then imported to Mitäkuuluu. Using Uitukka and latest Mitäkuuluu[/SIZE]

Leinad 2014-11-05 17:15

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
i have a paid account and registered via Mitäkuuluu.

i was not banned, but i switched to android client yesterday, to avoid being banned.

latency 2014-11-05 17:28

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1446007)
i have a paid account and registered via Mitäkuuluu.

i was not banned, but i switched to android client yesterday, to avoid being banned.

Switched to be on the safe side too. I can't risk getting banned, but I certainly miss Mitakuuluu. I'll be back the same second I'm sure it's no risk getting banned :o

TQP1 2014-11-05 17:33

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
At the same moment when 0.8.15 came out and I heard about Whatsapp banning numbers I paid 1$ for one year and downloaded 0.8.15. I've no intension to change to android whatsapp since it sucks especially with notifications until I get banned for the first time..
I'm gona continue using mitäkuuluu till the end and I've donated couple times and will continue to do so.
And if it matters I registered by using Mitäkuuluu.
I know it's a long shot but could Whatsapp just simply observe mitäkuuluu users' statuses "I love mitäkuuluu" to spot them and bann them?

az2111 2014-11-05 17:41

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
I have a paid Account,using mitakuuluu 0.8.13. i think i registrated with mitakuuluu. i never imported account from android whatsapp.

no problem with mitakuuluu. not banned. use keepalive and c3.whatsapp server.
im from germany if it is interesting?

best regards
az2111.
i think only not paid accounts will be banned.

neubauten84 2014-11-05 18:04

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Hi there!!
I've not been banned, but since I reset mi phone I can no more login via Mitakuuluu (It says "Registration failed") or import from whatsapp either.
Whatsapp via Alien Dalvik works perfectly.
How can I solve?
I tried to erase conf files but I can't find them (no .conf/coderus/mitakuuluu2.conf).
If this can help I could pay..even if I wouldn't to..

cvp 2014-11-05 19:27

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
i dont pay for my account, have a unlimited Account.
Registet years ago per Symbian... used later with Android and later with mitakuuluu..... still banned! :(

i never get a message to pay for the account... expire day was 1975 :D

coderus 2014-11-05 19:37

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
current results:
- nobody who registered account with android whatsapp and imported to mitakuuluu was banned
- nobody who have paid account, not lifetime was banned
- only free and lifetime accounts who registered in mitakuuluu was banned
correct me if i'm wrong.

cvp 2014-11-05 19:48

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
looks like....

Timpaxi 2014-11-05 20:06

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1446041)
current results:
- nobody who registered account with android whatsapp and imported to mitakuuluu was banned
- nobody who have paid account, not lifetime was banned
- only free and lifetime accounts who registered in mitakuuluu was banned
correct me if i'm wrong.

I have free account and registered in Mitäkuuluu.. No problems.. I even tried deleting that account and registered again in Mitäkuuluu, working great!

Jordi 2014-11-05 20:57

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpaxi (Post 1446048)
I have free account and registered in Mitäkuuluu.. No problems.. I even tried deleting that account and registered again in Mitäkuuluu, working great!

Same here, using version 0.8.13

ZioBilly 2014-11-05 20:57

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Is this last Mitakuuluu update related to the Sailfish update?
I mean is it advisable to upgrade Mitakuuluu without updating Sailfish?

vinca 2014-11-05 22:19

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1446041)
current results:
- nobody who registered account with android whatsapp and imported to mitakuuluu was banned
- nobody who have paid account, not lifetime was banned
- only free and lifetime accounts who registered in mitakuuluu was banned
correct me if i'm wrong.

i had a free account and i was banned

jimmy neutron 2014-11-05 22:27

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZioBilly (Post 1446058)
Is this last Mitakuuluu update related to the Sailfish update?
I mean is it advisable to upgrade Mitakuuluu without updating Sailfish?

Hi i upgraded to latest Mitakuuluu version 8.15 everything went well.. i,m not running the latest Sailfish update... You can find information here https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/278... But DO BE AWARE my advise is if your not having problems or banned keep using the same version...

I think it's best that we all wait and see where this is heading... Because i PERSONALLY am not intending to use official Whatsapp client ever !! so please lets not raise much attention towards ourselves (unofficial users)...

Kind Regards J Neutron

traysh 2014-11-05 22:47

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
I'd rather be banned than use the official client.

coderus 2014-11-05 22:59

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
to avoid banning for now you need to register using android whatsapp and import account to mitakuuluu, without using registration in mitakuuluu itself.

Boxeri 2014-11-06 07:04

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
I also registered through Mitakuuluu and never got banned. I also have never paid anything from whatsapp usage.

I did, however, change to using Android side official whatsapp two days ago. Would love to go back to Mitakuuluu, but for some reason I also started to get extreme lagging in Mitakuuluu after the lates mitakuuluu update. I have not updated the Sailfish OS to uitukka

az2111 2014-11-06 07:42

Re: [0.8.15] Mitakuuluu - indie WhatsApp client for Sailfish - Support thread
 
fyi
http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Ne...-funktion.html


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