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daperl 2010-02-16 18:54
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eikido (Post 530243)
Will QT apps run on Android if a library or something is installed? I don't think i need to mention closedPhone (maybe if you jailbreak it or something...).
Yes

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dimkit 2010-02-16 18:59
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
I think that the situation is very clear , and i do not understand why everybody is so confused(propably they do not want to believe that a 3 months device is already old).N900 wil NOT be able to upgrade to meego, if there is a possibility to be able to update, Nokia will announce it with proud and will not have any reason to hide it. So it leaves this situation blur because it does not want to have negative affect to the selling of n900. That's why it does not clarify the situation and told us that most (not all) application will be compative with both maemo 5 and meego and mothing more.

daperl 2010-02-16 19:10
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dimkit (Post 530271)
I think that the situation is very clear , and i do not understand why everybody is so confused(propably they do not want to believe that a 3 months device is already old).N900 wil NOT be able to upgrade to meego, if there is a possibility to be able to update, Nokia will announce it with proud and will not have any reason to hide it. So it leaves this situation blur because it does not want to have negative affect to the selling of n900. That's why it does not clarify the situation and told us that most (not all) application will be compative with both maemo 5 and meego and mothing more.
Dude, either take a logic class, or stop using absolutes when using statistics to make conclusions. Not a good first post, but Welcome!

attila77 2010-02-16 19:20
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 530261)
Yes

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Err, no, for two reasons. First, Android is Java/Dalvik based. Qt will not make you immune to this. It's not worth much having Qt if the language/compiler of your actual app is not supported. You would still have to port/rewrite your app in another language. Second, the matter of Qt on Android is not just installing. Qt has fair amounts of platform specific code deep down in it's bowels to make itself transparent. If you just shove Qt in there without proper platform support, it will stick out like a sore thumb.

daperl 2010-02-16 20:54
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 530333)
Err, no, for two reasons. First, Android is Java/Dalvik based. Qt will not make you immune to this. It's not worth much having Qt if the language/compiler of your actual app is not supported. You would still have to port/rewrite your app in another language. Second, the matter of Qt on Android is not just installing. Qt has fair amounts of platform specific code deep down in it's bowels to make itself transparent. If you just shove Qt in there without proper platform support, it will stick out like a sore thumb.
I was 50% joking. The other 50% disagrees with you. The answer to a will-it-work software question that ends like this:

"...if a library or something is installed?"

is most likely Yes. I'm not saying it would be easy, but the details are usually just details. And the more I think about it, the cooler it's sounding.

jaysire 2010-02-16 21:20
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Am I the only one here with an average phone lifespan of 6 months. I can go up to a year, but after that time I usually want something new.

If this is your rate of consumption, then all fear is unfounded. It doesn't matter whether the N900 is upgradeable or not. If something nicer comes out, I'll just get that instead, even if I COULD upgrade my N900 to Meego.

Take a long hard look at your N900. What you see is what you will be stuck with for the foreseeable future. Don't expect free turn-by-turn navigation, don't expect Meego etc etc. I've had this device for about three months now. I might already be halfway through its lifetime, so I have to be in a frame of mind where what the N900 has RIGHT now is enough. Having said that, this device is so good (for me), that I might just end up using it for a whole year, but not a chance that I would go any longer than that and even then, I would already be 1/4th through its lifetime.

wmarone 2010-02-16 21:30
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 530640)
Am I the only one here with an average phone lifespan of 6 months. I can go up to a year, but after that time I usually want something new.
At $500+ for the N900, I don't expect my "rate of consumption" to exceed more than one every couple years. Rampant consumerism isn't exactly a forte of mine. At this point the only way I'd move to a newer device is if it had insanely good capabilities or was -even more open- than the N900. I suspect that in terms of open-ness, the N900 will be the peak with a bunch of closed source crap piled on to locked devices down the line.

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Take a long hard look at your N900. What you see is what you will be stuck with for the foreseeable future. Don't expect free turn-by-turn navigation, don't expect Meego etc etc. I've had this device for about three months now. I might already be halfway through its lifetime, so I have to be in a frame of mind where what the N900 has RIGHT now is enough.
And I'm sure all those device manufacturers out there -love- that, since you don't get all up in their stuff asking for drivers. They don't people like me, who pick up a device and want to be able to support it, even if just by themselves, for well past the warranty expiration date. That's less sales for them.

AlMehdi 2010-02-16 21:45
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
My phone life span is 2-3 years. With the N900 i thought i might be able to hold to it longer. The big turn down for the N900 is the battery... If i can find a reasonable small battery that holds longer then N900 is it.

If they keep the "Maemo view" as is with Debian and GTK+ my next device will be a Nokia too. At this point it's not very likely.

Texrat 2010-02-16 21:47
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Name should have been "Maemoblin". Right?

RevdKathy 2010-02-16 21:50
Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Maemoblin, Maeblin, mobmo (but not 'moblo')... meego sounds like a 2 yearold with a full nappy (diaper).

(actually, I quite like 'maeblin')


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