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Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1170409)

Resistance is futile. Nokia as we knew it is allready over.

btw nice to see that someone is able to face the facts

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1170463)

It was pretty much obivous that this pun was intended by me. Lets just say that qwerty12 wasn't that happy about people who didn't want to see the big picture. And now I think I am beginning to understand the reasons why he had no point "hanging out" anymore...

Final time: I am not pro nokia. I am pro their decision to provide lumias to the masses in order to stay alive because they blew it already in ~2008 with maemo when thinking about the big plan, schedule and resources pointed to the project. They just had everything too well with the symbian.

but thanks a lot for the ad hominems, one more reason to know that this place is probably ruined for good. But I'd guess that it is easy to start the "you fanboy, me not" -stuff when there are no real arguments and the big ship is already sailing in the horizon...

I see your point but I don't remember calling anybody a fanboy.

I only questioned your idea that somebody who asks for Elops resignation is unable to integrate with normal people which was more an ad hominem attack on that person than my post could ever be. If that ad hominem attack wasn't enough hypocrisy for one post you also seem to be unhappy that TMO has become more mainstream in recent years which actually goes against that very opinion of yours. it's actually the normal people that are commenting here now. If you don't like what they are posting then ignore it, don't get worked up about it and insult them. That's what the normal person would do.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1170463)

but thanks a lot for the ad hominems, one more reason to know that this place is probably ruined for good. But I'd guess that it is easy to start the "you fanboy, me not" -stuff when there are no real arguments and the big ship is already sailing in the horizon...

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1162692)

I beg everyone to research themselves instead of believing everything symbian fanboy say.

It seems your memory is as poor as your logic.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

OK... I used 'ad hominem' once in a post and now it's being repeatedly used. I suggest we add this phrase to the TMO drinking game. Every time someone calls out that phrase, we all take a drink. :)

Reference to the original thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29907

Cheers!

PS: Wow! I just realized that thread started in the Internet Tablet Talk era of mid-2009. Appropriately, something we should go back to--talking about TABLETS instead of concentrating on a specific brand that decided to back-stab its community. Also appropriately, you should probably take a drink for every time I say that. :)

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

hmm symbian,maemo and meego.. the worst of those 3 is surviving.. i dont get it. only because symbian has such a history doesnt mean its any good. i sold 2 symbian devices already 1 week after i bought them. maemo would be perfect and now there is meego.. its also good but for me, it looks like a copy with a different UI (i might be wrong because i am not a software specialist). well and windows mobile... i can just laugh about it

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1171653)

OK... I used 'ad hominem' once in a post and now it's being repeatedly used. I suggest we add this phrase to the TMO drinking game. Every time someone calls out that phrase, we all take a drink.

My liver hates you.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1171653)

[...]
PS: Wow! I just realized that thread started in the Internet Tablet Talk era of mid-2009. Appropriately, something we should go back to--talking about TABLETS instead of concentrating on a specific brand that decided to back-stab its community. Also appropriately, you should probably take a drink for every time I say that. :)

TMO = talk.maemo.org right?
meamo never was for tablets
last time i checked, Maemo devices are called Mobile Internet Devices / MID
of course, you can say MID was just NOKIA's word for tablet, but still...
also, as far as i know, NOKIA is the only brand that ever produced (and still produces with Harmattan) Maemo devices.
thus, the topics here should actually be only about one brand, no?

(q.e.d.)

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1171714)

Golly gee, mister, but the entire time I checked, mind you--over the years, Nokia referred to the 770, N800, N810 and N810WE as Internet Tablets. They're small--but they were still tablets as much as any Palm or Newton was called a tablet for decades. So, it appears that 'TABLET' was also Nokia's word for a tablet. All they had to do was start listening to customer demands for bigger screens and all the other stuff people now expect from tablets that Nokia was on the CUSP of doing themselves. Additionally, this forum USED to be called InternetTabletTalk (you can still get here from http://www.internettablettalk.com in fact) long before it decided to more FIRMLY put its sausage into Nokia and call it talk.maemo.org. Nothing you've said was either accurate nor correcting--I'm not even sure why you bothered writing a reply if you didn't at least have some first-hand knowledge or at least research this stuff first. Here... let me help you. Just a little bit this time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_internet_tablet

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1171700)

My liver hates you.

Aaaand my finger ACHES to press the THANKS button for it. ;)

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1171737)

rofl MIDs....

Shh... you'll embarrass him! ..... [long pause... then explosive snickering and laughing]