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Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!

Ok I got a response in #mer:

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps

probably a better topic for #jollamobile, but probably 4, 2.7, and 0.10 (but that's a bit up in air)

So it's basically what was shipped with Harmattan.

Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!

Yeah of course, just to clarify. It's qt-4.8.x, python-2.7.x and gstreamer-0.10.x. Qt and Python are very unlikely to change as it's too much work involved but i wouldn't be surprised if they bump Gstreamer to 1.0.x as it's very similar to the 0.10.x series.

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Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1305710)

It's good to see that people are doing feature stories on Jolla though - people have faith in them, unlike the anemic coverage on Tizen (which was, and is pretty telling)

Tizen will get plenty of coverage once Samsung and/or Huawei release a device. As two of the three largest smartphone manufacturers in the world are backing it I don't see any reason to doubt Tizen.

Also don't forget Bada, which Tizen will replace, has consistently outsold Windows Phone yet you don't see any coverage of Bada either.

Tizen has a really good API and it's going to be released as a PC distro too. I'm really looking forward to Tizen smartphones being available, I just hope they wont be too locked down.

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Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1307289)

That's a good thing in my book as we all know what happened to harmattan by trying to rework to include the latest things the last moment.

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Regarding Qt 5, they still have quite some time until summer. I don't have any experience in writing QML GUIs for the N9, but I heard there are performance issues and Qt Quick 2 should perform much better so it would be a shame if it were not included.

Maybe someone could share his experience on the matter.

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Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 1307858)

What about providing both at the same time (Qt 4.8 and 5.0/5.1, at least as "experimental" for the 5.x ones and presenting 4.8 as the official way)?
There shouldn't be any conflict. But I don't know how much work it would be to port a correctly working 5.0 version to sailfish.

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Qt 5 is already included in Mer (though in beta1 form yet), so one should be able to install it on the Jolla device as well (it's supposed to coexist with Qt 4 normally). So even if it's not there out of the box, it should be available as an option for applications which depend on it. Except that I don't know how Sailfish will manage dependency on Mer releases (i.e. on which particular release it'll depend on from the start, and how often they'll update that dependency).

For example see all related qt5 packages at:
http://releases.merproject.org/relea...kages/armv7hl/

So figure out in which Mer release Qt 5 will be upgraded to the stable version, and how it will combine with Sailfish dependency on Mer releases.

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I'd sure hope they support Qt5. I've merely dabbled a bit with QML on the N9, but I really like it. Qt5 will take QML and Qt Quick 2.0 to the next level from what I gather from the PR-talk, which would be excellent news for creating apps.

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Jolla Aims to be Alternative to Android

WSJ: Where does the name Jolla come from?

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Mr. Pienimaki: It means a one-man sailor boat in Finnish. The idea is that there is this big sea with great opportunity. You start to sail yourself there alone – it’s a bit of an adventure and a bit dangerous, but you still want to take this adventure because you see that there is this great opportunity. Nokia was going through a massive transition in 2011 with lots of layoffs and we were able to recruit key talent including engineers that had worked on the MeeGo project. (MeeGo is a mobile operating system that Nokia was developing with Intel Corp. until the project was abandoned in early 2011.)

WSJ: How big is the company now and what are your expansion plans?

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Mr. Pienimaki: We have a bit more than 50 people, mostly in Finland and two R&D sites. And we are now ramping up other locations. We have a data center in Cyberport, in Hong Kong. In China, we have a sales and marketing agreement with a retail chain called D-Phone. The deal was signed in July.

WSJ: In addition to developing a smartphone, Jolla is also working on a mobile operating system that could become a competitor to Android and Apple’s iOS. Tell us about your platform called Sailfish.

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Mr. Pienimaki: It’s an open source platform but we have proprietary elements in it. The core operating system components are very much open source. It has a full operating system and a user interface. It allows for multi-tasking.

WSJ: How do you plan to generate revenue?

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Mr. Pienimaki: We want to sell Jolla-brand phones and license our Sailfish operating system so that OEMs can use the operating system. We are a challenger in the marketplace and it will take time. But there is a good opportunity with the operating system. It’s one of the few independent options available in the market.

WSJ: Longer term, do you want to be seen as a company that makes smartphones or do you want to be like Google, offering software?

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Mr. Pienimaki: We understand the needs and the challenges of the marketplace and we know how to make a competitive combination of hardware and software. It’s a very challenging engineering environment and we truly understand that. By introducing a new user interface, applications and innovation through the platform, we’d be showing the way.

WSJ: When can consumers see Jolla phones?

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Mr. Pienimaki: Hopefully in the first quarter of next year.

WSJ: How will you price your smartphone?

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Mr. Pienimaki: It makes no sense to go to the low-end. We will kill ourselves going there. For the Sailfish operating system, it also doesn’t make sense for us. It’s a much more feasible and sustainable model that we position this as a something that is different, unique and offers scale for the users. So it makes sense to focus on the premium segment of the market. Sailfish can also be used on set-top boxes, smart TVs and in the automotive industry.

WSJ: Can you give us an update on your fundraising? Would you look at an initial public offering?

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Mr. Pienimaki: We are looking at an IPO in 2013 but that’s something we’ll communicate more next year. It’s definitely an option for us.

WSJ: Where would you list?

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Mr. Pienimaki: Hong Kong would be a possibility, but it’s likely that we’ll look first at Scandinavia. But it’s something that’s still under planning.