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Originally Posted by Beerduck (Post 1444860)

Any chance of getting a differently colored border?

On this note, I don't understand the colored pledges on Kickstarter.

Does everyone who pledges over 120e get to customize their colors?

Why are some of these limited, while others are not?

Good news anyway, but please do put some sense into the pledges ;)

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by mjtorn (Post 1444871)

Price, to kickstart the ks going early supporters get to save a few euro

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Originally Posted by mjtorn (Post 1444871)

The KS is not finished nor yet fully funktional. Quoting "This is not a live project. This is a draft shared by Dirk for feedback."

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Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1444862)

Yes, blank keypad will be an option. Very cool if you make your own layout!

No, I said 'black' ;) Like the one on the teaser/photo of the design.

"Estimated delivery: Apr 2015" :eek:

Really!? :( So it's not ready at all?

By april 2015 Jolla has propably released a new phone. A bit risky if that one does not support old model TOHs.

Jolla should get into this thing. How hard can it be to realise that everybody wants a HW keyboard on their phone?

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Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1444681)

Counter question: why would you (re-)position the cursor on-screen? That kinda kills the purpose of having a keypad on TOHKBD..

Answer: it absolutley does not. For me, the point of having a hardware-kb is twofold:
1.) being able to type properly, on real keys. You know.
2.) being able to see the whole screen while typing.

On the N900, I would routinely use the arrow keys for moving the cursor by just a few characters, or rows. For moving it a longer distance (or to a different text field... ), I would just tap that area on the display - like clicking on a desktop. You know. Arrow keys again if I missed it by a char or two. Perfect.
All that while with no vkb blocking the view ever, you could keep the text of a whole e-mail visible. Perfect.

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Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1444878)

No, I said 'black' ;) Like the one on the teaser/photo of the design.

yes, blank = no keys engraves = black

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Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1444880)

"Estimated delivery: Apr 2015" :eek:

Really!? :( So it's not ready at all?

Well, the design is ready and contracts are ready to be signed. April is on the safe side, would rather deliver ahead of schedule than late.

Development can go a lot faster if I have the funds, hence the campaign.

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1444741)

I think this is quite an important question: Is there really no way the virtual keyboard can be hidden with tohkbd open?

I can't believe people talk about what the back looks like, but don't care, that there's going to be virtual keyboard always visible, covering 1/3 of the screen in landscape... When you close the keyboard, the full virtual keyboard is not going to pop up, but you will need to hold the space key and switch the layout. And you will need to do this again when you open the keyboard, to switch to the stripped down keyboard version. Unless I'm mistaken...?

PS: Not that I'm not buying - I look forward to the keyboard very much - but I think that this should be thought through as it makes half the experience.

Exactly my thoughts.
What toggles the vkb (while cursor is in a text field) should be the hw action of opening/closing TOHKBD.

Dirk, can you confirm:
1.) in current OS version (Uitukka), the vkb can never be completely hidden? Otherwise, why don't you do that?
2.) 3rd party/community can't make the vkb go away completely, only Jolla can? Just saw that that known issue is in Tahkalampi!
May already gone in Uitukka? Anyone using it already? Haven't seen it in the changelog...

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Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1444895)

guys guys guys chillout, this is sw side, don't bother dirk with it, do i need to mention that hwkbd rev1 has no keyrepeat? this is easy once 500 ppl upvote this on tjc
and it can definitely be done without jolla, see patches/hacks, still willing to bet 100€ jolla will help when time comes

plus tohkbd is open source, even my nonprogrammer self helpedbwith pageup/down and few remappings, 500 guys will have a few decent coders for sure