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jbsbunyi 2010-01-07 10:15
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 456582)
Maybe this bug is affecting you: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7510

Worksforme: Remove the pairing in booth devices and rename the BT device using the apostrophe in the name (e.g. User laptop)
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awesome thank you. such a random bug. genius.

GEONXT 2010-01-07 11:16
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Im not sure what I have to do to get it working I have installed the app it recognises my PS3 and the PS3 adds N900 to trusted devices but when I try to use the keyboard or any function it does not respond, what is it I have done incorrect?

VDVsx 2010-01-07 11:34
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC (Post 456882)
Got it working with my N900 and my Asus W90 laptop.

Took 20 minutes of trial & error to get the devices to connect together properly.

Firstly I am using a new instlal of Windows 7 x64 so I have the stock windows bluetooth drivers and they suck. Upon first pairing it said it didnt have half the drivers it needed and directed me to broadcoms site to get the drivers. Broadcom bluetooth drivers also suck.

However after getting the drivers I could pair without driver errors, thing is using the "recive" connection mod it never got past that so I had to establish the connection from the N900 to the laptop.

It worked but it paired as an A2DP device or something instead of a HID device so I could use my laptop speakers to listen to music from the N900 and take calls.

I had too remove the device and try again and it paired as the HID keyboard/mouse device and it seems to work flawlessly.

I used to carry a nintendo wimmote with me to do cool tricks on my laptop and presentations, today I have a meeting and plan to use the N900 and bluemamemo instead, the wiimote has all the motion sensors and accelerometers allowing for nifty coding like tilt the controller to raise volume, cant do that on the N900 but you could use the accelerometer to add "flick" to the media controls as a extra bind, so you can "flick" the N900 to have a function (probably change to a random track is what I would use)

I think I read the hardware keyboard is supposed to work? but it didnt for me I had to use the on screen keyboard, not a big deal right now still works great without it, but when it is working that will be even better. You can use mouse mode and type on the hardware keyboard to speed things up a bit. note: I did try to use the hardware keyboard on keyboard mode not just mouse mode.

To anybody having problems, as a former wiimote hacker guy i can tell you the Toshiba or the Bluesoleil bluetooth stacks are the two to use they work so much better than the broadcom/microsoft stuff.

I never even got the wiimote to work correctly under broadcom, so the fact I got the bluemaemo working is a plus.
Thanks for testing
There's a bug in one of the libraries used by BlueMaemo that prevents the HW keyboard from working, but there's a simple workaround:

1- In BlueMaemo main menu type something in the hw keyboard, the contacts app will show up, dismiss it.
2- Press the power button and dismiss it tapping in the screen in the empty space.
3- Type something again in the hw keyboard :), the keyboard should work across the different profiles.

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-07 13:14
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 457097)
Thanks for testing
There's a bug in one of the libraries used by BlueMaemo that prevents the HW keyboard from working, but there's a simple workaround:

1- In BlueMaemo main menu type something in the hw keyboard, the contacts app will show up, dismiss it.
2- Press the power button and dismiss it tapping in the screen in the empty space.
3- Type something again in the hw keyboard :), the keyboard should work across the different profiles.
I'll give it a shot later and let you know if I have any problems.

VDVsx 2010-01-07 15:01
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GEONXT (Post 457084)
Im not sure what I have to do to get it working I have installed the app it recognises my PS3 and the PS3 adds N900 to trusted devices but when I try to use the keyboard or any function it does not respond, what is it I have done incorrect?
Did you followed these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluemaemo#Playstation_3 ?

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-07 21:24
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
wanted to try to show it off at work today and use the hardware keyboard but after trying for like 35 minutes could not get a connection today with the widdcom bluetooth in Win 7.

I eventually booted over into Vista (dual boot laptop) where I have the bluesoleil bluetooth stack and expected it to be easy but it still took about 20 minutes of varies tinkering to get it to work.

Roughly what I did was put bluemaemo in discover mode, this puts the device in HID mode and searched for the device and added it, and then also searched for all its features so that it added HID device as one of them.

Even after pairing the waiting for connection screen never goes away for me. If I try to connect to the computer with bluemaemo making the connection it will connect but always disconnect shortly after, seems its not connecting in the right mode as duing that short time none of the features work.

I ended up unpairing and establishing the connection to the n900 by manually selecting HID device connect from bluesoleil, the computer will pair but not the N900, then I select reconnect with the N900 and it seemed to work.

You will know you have the right pairing as the N900 icon on bluesoleil will be a game joystick and will have the data link animation.

After getting that far I was out of time to play so didnt get a chance to try out the work around for the hardware keyboard.

One thing to note also is with bluesoleil I never got the pin number/pair dialog like I did with the microsoft/widcomm drivers.

VDVsx 2010-01-07 21:48
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC (Post 458130)
wanted to try to show it off at work today and use the hardware keyboard but after trying for like 35 minutes could not get a connection today with the widdcom bluetooth in Win 7.

I eventually booted over into Vista (dual boot laptop) where I have the bluesoleil bluetooth stack and expected it to be easy but it still took about 20 minutes of varies tinkering to get it to work.

Roughly what I did was put bluemaemo in discover mode, this puts the device in HID mode and searched for the device and added it, and then also searched for all its features so that it added HID device as one of them.

Even after pairing the waiting for connection screen never goes away for me. If I try to connect to the computer with bluemaemo making the connection it will connect but always disconnect shortly after, seems its not connecting in the right mode as duing that short time none of the features work.

I ended up unpairing and establishing the connection to the n900 by manually selecting HID device connect from bluesoleil, the computer will pair but not the N900, then I select reconnect with the N900 and it seemed to work.

You will know you have the right pairing as the N900 icon on bluesoleil will be a game joystick and will have the data link animation.

After getting that far I was out of time to play so didnt get a chance to try out the work around for the hardware keyboard.

One thing to note also is with bluesoleil I never got the pin number/pair dialog like I did with the microsoft/widcomm drivers.
Ouch, I never used it with Win 7, but with Vista/XP it works well, never had any problem, of course if you pair the device without the HID profile or without HID permissions, the system will disconnect you, its a matter of security. And remember you only need to pair it once, after that you should use the reconnect function.
There's nothing I can do to improve this situation, I guess :(

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-08 07:11
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Ok more testing.

I downloaded the newest version of bluesoleil from the homesite, just got the free trial of it.

Put bluemaemo in receive connection mode, searched the device on the laptop and then choose to connect as a HID device, almost instantly the connection was made and bleumaemo went to the main menu.

Works 100% perfectly and so easy with the new version of bluesoleil, shame its not a free bluetooth stack though, but the trial works good for testing.

So tested the hardware keyboard work around, it worked just fine, I had to do it once or twice before it worked but it does work!

I think I found one bug though, multimedia controls I can not get the next track and previous track keys to work.

I was testing with winamp and I enabled global hotkeys, no matter what keyboard key I set winamp to use when I set that key in bluemaemo it did not work.

Also every time I went to set a new key it would just have that "prior" or "next" key listed. I guess thats the generic multimedia keys command but I could not find how to set it back to that as pressing back would leave the keyboard command on there.

My guess is that its still sending the multimedia command even after binding a key? as pressing the keyboard key I set on the actual keyboard worked just fine but the softkey on the media remote did not.

Winamp lets you enable both global hotkeys and generic multimedia controls separately, so going to go test now with the generic commands enable to see if it works and test that theory.

Edit: I see what is happening now, some of the keys are not updating when I set them, it shows the new value in the settings menu in bluemaemo but it still sends the old setting key command.

If I go back to set the key it shows the old bind the one its using, but setting it over and over it still wont stick. Seems rebooting the program causes it to refresh but to the old settings not the new ones, so its a bit difficult right now to get all the keys working.

Maybe we can add a master reset to default somewhere? I still dont see how to add the original media keyboard commands back as that will be my best option probably.

VDVsx 2010-01-08 12:42
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC (Post 458720)
Ok more testing.

I downloaded the newest version of bluesoleil from the homesite, just got the free trial of it.

Put bluemaemo in receive connection mode, searched the device on the laptop and then choose to connect as a HID device, almost instantly the connection was made and bleumaemo went to the main menu.

Works 100% perfectly and so easy with the new version of bluesoleil, shame its not a free bluetooth stack though, but the trial works good for testing.

So tested the hardware keyboard work around, it worked just fine, I had to do it once or twice before it worked but it does work!

I think I found one bug though, multimedia controls I can not get the next track and previous track keys to work.

I was testing with winamp and I enabled global hotkeys, no matter what keyboard key I set winamp to use when I set that key in bluemaemo it did not work.

Also every time I went to set a new key it would just have that "prior" or "next" key listed. I guess thats the generic multimedia keys command but I could not find how to set it back to that as pressing back would leave the keyboard command on there.

My guess is that its still sending the multimedia command even after binding a key? as pressing the keyboard key I set on the actual keyboard worked just fine but the softkey on the media remote did not.

Winamp lets you enable both global hotkeys and generic multimedia controls separately, so going to go test now with the generic commands enable to see if it works and test that theory.

Edit: I see what is happening now, some of the keys are not updating when I set them, it shows the new value in the settings menu in bluemaemo but it still sends the old setting key command.

If I go back to set the key it shows the old bind the one its using, but setting it over and over it still wont stick. Seems rebooting the program causes it to refresh but to the old settings not the new ones, so its a bit difficult right now to get all the keys working.

Maybe we can add a master reset to default somewhere? I still dont see how to add the original media keyboard commands back as that will be my best option probably.
It's a known bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7534
Already fixed in the SVN version, I'll release a new package with all bug fixes in the next couple of days.

Thanks again.

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-08 13:37
Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Great I look forward to it, I love this program.

How do I search the bug database or submit one if I am testing a program?


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