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mullf 2009-02-28 14:31

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by TenSpeed (Post 267744)
From where I'm sitting, the next generation device(s) sounds even more powerful, flexible, and well thought out than my beloved N810, so I'm happy to wait a few more months before diving in.

Of course it is. The longer you wait, the better hardware and more time you have to put into the software. Let's wait 4 more years! :-p

igor 2009-02-28 17:37

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 267812)
Let's wait 4 more years! :-p

It sounds very tempting, compared with the current schedule :-)

drizek 2009-02-28 18:22

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 267793)
It's funny you know, posts like this make me feel like a genius. I *am* watching films on it, listening to ogg music, browsing on a webkit browser (Nokia doesn't own Qt long enough to make a difference, IMHO, but still), using the webcam for gizmo and various funnies. As for swapping and desktop OS, it's hard to contest that it's better at it than the Axim running windows XP. Flash, well, that's Adobe's responsibility at least as much as Nokias. The fact that mytube with a 3rd party player does so much better than the official flash player speaks volumes. Can't comment on keyboard as I'm on a N810, OTG ditto. All in all, it's just what it says it is, a tinkerer's OSS device, far from perfect but gets better by the day. I don't see how your problems will be resolved with either a WinMo device or how you will stuff a Mini9 in your pocket. You do sound like a future Archos person, in need of an Opera browser, good video and media performance.

Well I reflashed it. Went to gron mayer, added a half a million repositories to get the dependencies for webkit, then installed Tear 0.3.5. I am very very impressed. My n800 has been sitting in a drawer for months, running android(useless). Tear really does change things though. Maybe even enough to keep it around. I have to decide whether I would rather have an n800 or a 16gb SSD for my mini 9(so I can run OSX on it as well as Ubuntu).

Of course, I charged it up at night, went to bed, browsed around for about an hour and then put it down. I wake up in the morning to check my email... and the battery is dead. WTF? This is a fresh flash, I have literally only installed 3 libraries, webkit, and Tear. This battery drain thing is by far the most annoying part of the nokias. It is even worse than microb.

Also, to get more on topic, I won't really be too excited by the OMAP3 stuff, not when ARM has announced that the next generation is going to be many times as powerful with multicore and other cool things.

mikkov 2009-02-28 18:45

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 267855)
Also, to get more on topic, I won't really be too excited by the OMAP3 stuff, not when ARM has announced that the next generation is going to be many times as powerful with multicore and other cool things.

You know, there will _always_ be the next one :)

GeneralAntilles 2009-02-28 20:04

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 267855)
Also, to get more on topic, I won't really be too excited by the OMAP3 stuff, not when ARM has announced that the next generation is going to be many times as powerful with multicore and other cool things.

. . . and it wont be shipping in volume until well into 2010 and possibly 2011. :rolleyes:

Besides, ARM announced the Cortex A9 months and months ago. The new announcement was for TI's SoC implementation of it, the OMAP4.

igor 2009-02-28 20:05

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 267855)
WTF? This is a fresh flash, I have literally only installed 3 libraries, webkit, and Tear. This battery drain thing is by far the most annoying part of the nokias.

So what? Even 1 library/daemon is enough, if it is crappy code.

GeneralAntilles 2009-02-28 20:06

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by igor (Post 267886)
So what? Even 1 library/daemon is enough, if it is crappy code.

In this case it sounds like it could be a WiFi issue.

igor 2009-02-28 20:07

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 267887)
In this case it sounds like it could be a WiFi issue.

Maybe, but it's the assumption behind the statement that leaves me baffled.

GeneralAntilles 2009-02-28 20:10

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by igor (Post 267888)
Maybe, but it's the assumption behind the statement that leaves me baffled.

Hey, we're not all black belt kernel engineers with super power saving skills. :p

SD69 2009-02-28 21:27

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 267812)
Of course it is. The longer you wait, the better hardware and more time you have to put into the software. Let's wait 4 more years! :-p

Well, it's about competition. It does seem that Nokia was correct to target mid-2009. There has been no new MID competition introduced in the last six months, and doesn't look like there will be any significant new MID competition in the next few months.


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