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Laughing Man 2010-06-10 23:18

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 709639)
umm, there are capacitive Stylli you know...

and I am sorry a little pinch to zoom wasnt good enough for you

The capacitive stylus only removes the fact that your finger is no longer touching the device (whether it be iPhone or iPad). Thus it removes one problem with using fingers (natural oils, food oils, synethic oils, or any kind of dirt on your fingers). It doesn't offer any more accuracy since the capacitive screen is still the same underneath.

Now whether you need such accuracy is a completly different argument (depending on what camp you are in, and what functions you actually use).

imperiallight 2010-06-10 23:21

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
Of course but I can get it finer than my finger with a stylus was my point. To practically any level of zoom in a link (from experience). This may change with the resolution of the new iphone to become harder though.

Its still too coarse for annotating PDF's on the iphone to my taste but people still do.

slaapliedje 2010-06-10 23:28

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 709643)
It's not the stylus that makes resistive panels valuable, its that the granularity for detection is much, much finer than capacitive can achieve. Capacitive is highly sensitive, but can only detect relatively coarse regions of input (whereas the N900's screen is, if you need it, pixel-accurate.)

Yeah, which was my point. But one question I do have, do capacitive screens support pressure sensitivity?

I know the N900 does, from using MyPaint.

slaapliedje

slaapliedje 2010-06-10 23:33

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 709649)
Of course but I can get it finer than my finger with a stylus was my point. To practically any level of zoom in a link (from experience). This may change with the resolution of the new iphone to become harder though.

Its still too coarse for annotating PDF's on the iphone to my taste but people still do.

I love the stylus, it definitely has it's place. Especially for those programs that weren't quite written for Maemo 5, but run because of Debian Arm or Easy Debian.

The one thing that really bugged me the few times I've used an iPhone, is that your fingers are always in the way of the screen.

Meh, to each his own, I just thought it was hilarious that he was using the comparison of having a cord on a phone because I had a stylus... uhm, a cord is a useless thing that gets in the way, and was only there before any wireless technology. A stylus has it's uses, even if you don't always have to use it, it's a nice added bonus.

slaapliedje

wmarone 2010-06-10 23:34

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slaapliedje (Post 709655)
Yeah, which was my point. But one question I do have, do capacitive screens support pressure sensitivity?

I know the N900 does, from using MyPaint.

slaapliedje

No, they have no means of detecting pressure. They can detect multiple contact points (multitouch) and how much area is being contacted, so you could "fake" pressure sensitivity with the right tool I suppose (or with very, very careful touches.)

Personally I'd be OK with capacitive if they could offer a Wacom-style digitizer along side it.

PradaBrada 2010-06-10 23:34

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slaapliedje (Post 709655)
Yeah, which was my point. But one question I do have, do capacitive screens support pressure sensitivity?

I know the N900 does, from using MyPaint.

slaapliedje

No, capacitive screens measures change in capacitance

Resistive screens measure applied pressure

imperiallight 2010-06-10 23:36

Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:

I love the stylus, it definitely has it's place. Especially for those programs that weren't quite written for Maemo 5, but run because of Debian Arm or Easy Debian.
I love the resistive stylus as well. As a medical student there are a tonne of books I have to annotate.

I bought this 4in1 resistive stylus for £1 and it arrived last week and it has to be one of my best recent purchases.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-in-1-Teachin...item1c12b30459

PradaBrada 2010-06-10 23:41

Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 709665)
I love the resistive stylus as well. As a medical student there are a tonne of books I have to annotate.

Another medical student with an N900 who's not completely satisfied with the N900, what are the chances? :p

In what format are your books?

imperiallight 2010-06-10 23:43

Re: iPhone 4
 
lol, PDF mainly. Let me know if you need any!

slaapliedje 2010-06-10 23:44

Re: Incredibly inane conversation with an Apple Fan.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 709662)
No, capacitive screens measures change in capacitance

Resistive screens measure applied pressure

So I was showing him Xournal, and he said 'why would I want that, I can use voice dictation' then I had to stop myself from saying, "yes, but you also like the sound of your own voice, so it wouldn't bother you in the least..." but I didn't... manager and all that :D

Anyhow, while voice dialing would be nice, I don't see the point in voice dictation, though there is a voice recorder already on the N900, if I recall.

slaapliedje


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