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paoletto 2012-09-05 13:35

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Hei! I'm alive, i thought the deadline was sunday night.
I was planning to beta test a little the new functionalities of meeTrainer before pushing out a rev 0.2, which would be also the revision i would like to use for the competition.
The other app is instead finished, so i could probably submit today, if that's preferred.
I was planning to do it by email. Is it better to use the webpage?

kojacker 2012-09-05 14:06

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by paoletto (Post 1261553)
Hei! I'm alive, i thought the deadline was sunday night.

Don't worry paoletto, you're right - it is :) The deadline is midnight on Sunday, but that's in UTC time so it could vary by timezone. I wish I had a link to a fancy countdown clock.

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I was planning to beta test a little the new functionalities of meeTrainer before pushing out a rev 0.2, which would be also the revision i would like to use for the competition.
The other app is instead finished, so i could probably submit today, if that's preferred.
I was planning to do it by email. Is it better to use the webpage?
Cool, we definitely want stuff tested well :) Glad to hear you're still planning on submitting them, either emailing or using the webpage is fine - whatever is handiest for you :)

jonquark 2012-09-05 17:52

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
I asked this earlier in the thread but I got different answers from different people....can someone give me a definitive answer?

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Originally Posted by jonquark (Post 1217716)
As I understand the proposed rules, apps which we've started (even if they aren't in the Ovi store/apps.formeego.org yet) aren't likely to be eligible?

I've a vested interest in that rule being relaxed so I could submit grrok.

At the moment that app (and some others around, aren't "existing community apps" as no finished version exists but they were created after the competition was announced but before submissions were allowed.

In my case, I put an alpha version of Grrok on my website shortly before the competition started... but it should be appearing in the Ovi Store "any day now".

It's not really an update to an "existing app" but it's not been developed entirely in the competition timeframe (I was too keen and started after the competition was announced without realising there was going to be a start date in the future).

Which category should I put it in? New app or update?

leon.anavi 2012-09-05 18:04

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1260988)
I have some exiting news about MoGateway: Oytun Şengül from MeeGo Turkey kindly translated it to Turkish so I'll wrap a new deb and shortly after that I'll submit it to the competition :)

Hi All,

I built a new release of MoGateway and submitted it for validation at Nokia Store.

Kojacker should have received my submission of MoGateway to the Network & Communications category.

Until MoGateway version 1.0.2 is approved and published at Nokia Store it will be available for download from my web page:
http://anavi.org/meego/mogateway_1.0.2_armel.deb

location2sms 2.1.8 which also takes part in the competion is also available on my personal site:
http://anavi.org/meego/location2sms_2.1.8_armel.deb

I'll be on a short trip to the seaside with friends so I won't be able to publish any updates until Sunday when the competition ends. I have a lot of fun making open source apps and it is real pleasure for me to take part in the MeeGo Coding Competitions! I hope that you find my apps useful :)

Good luck to all participants!

Cheers,
Leon

kojacker 2012-09-05 18:16

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by jonquark (Post 1261680)
I asked this earlier in the thread but I got different answers from different people....can someone give me a definitive answer?



In my case, I put an alpha version of Grrok on my website shortly before the competition started... but it should be appearing in the Ovi Store "any day now".

It's not really an update to an "existing app" but it's not been developed entirely in the competition timeframe (I was too keen and started after the competition was announced without realising there was going to be a start date in the future).

Which category should I put it in? New app or update?

Sorry jonquark, I must have missed your original message somewhere earlier in the thread.

It feels a little unfair but, as you had an alpha version of Grrok on your website before the competition started, I'm afraid that sounds like already released software. I can see from your Grrok announce thread that, as you said, it wasn't long before the competition started (it's dated 05-24-12) and also there was another release only a week before the competition started "06-04-12 at 10:55 PM. Reason: Grrok v0.1.1 released - can now get more items for a feed"

Your application has fallen into a bit of a grey area. We have no idea when anyone truly starts work on an application, only when the first release comes around. That's why you'll have seen us talking about the 'first release' a lot in earlier posts. Personally, I don't consider sharing a bit of code as the first release but when you have something functionally complete and built and are sharing that then really you pretty much have released software. I don't know a lot about your application, but from my own software development experience an alpha release is something I feel is complete and is going through testing in the view of releasing. In that case, there probably wouldn't be significant enough work done during the competition time frame.

Without knowing further details, I would suggest "Updates.." if there are some new functionality or features added since that alpha release. That's what we'd ask the forum users to judge on.

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Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1261682)
Hi All,

I built a new release of MoGateway and submitted it for validation at Nokia Store.

Kojacker should have received my submission of MoGateway to the Network & Communications category.

Thanks Leon, yep already got it :)

caco3 2012-09-05 18:33

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261687)
Your application has fallen into a bit of a grey area. We have no idea when anyone truly starts work on an application, only when the first release comes around. That's why you'll have seen us talking about the 'first release' a lot in earlier posts. Personally, I don't consider sharing a bit of code as the first release but when you have something functionally complete and built and are sharing that then really you pretty much have released software. I don't know a lot about your application, but from my own software development experience an alpha release is something I feel is complete and is going through testing in the view of releasing. In that case, there probably wouldn't be significant enough work done during the competition time frame.

Without knowing further details, I would suggest "Updates.." if there are some new functionality or features added since that alpha release. That's what we'd ask the forum users to judge on.

Hmm, that surprises me a bit.
Because for me I understood that the submission time is 3 months, and you can enter any application as new which did not exist before the last competition. I am basing this mainly because it is called "this years competition".

If I understood this wrong, I am sorry and will change my submitted apps to updates, even they did not exist yet at the time of the 2011 competition.

kojacker 2012-09-05 18:39

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by caco3 (Post 1261697)
Hmm, that surprises me a bit.
Because for me I understood that the submission time is 3 months, and you can enter any application as new which did not exist before the last competition. I am basing this mainly because it is called "this years competition".

If I understood this wrong, I am sorry and will change my submitted apps to updates, even they did not exist yet at the time of the 2011 competition.

Thanks caco3, you have saved me from sending you an embarrassing email at a later time (I'm making my way through each of the entries to verify details but it's taking time :o )

But I'm glad we can address this now though :) I'm afraid it is for applications released during the time frame of the competition, not for any released since last year's competition - sorry for any surprise and confusion :o

I'm lucky everyone is so honest :)

jonquark 2012-09-05 18:43

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261687)
It feels a little unfair but, as you had an alpha version of Grrok on your website before the competition started, I'm afraid that sounds like already released software.

D'oh - thanks for the speedy clarification Kojacker! I'll know for the next Jolla Coding competition :)

caco3 2012-09-05 19:15

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261700)
Thanks caco3, you have saved me from sending you an embarrassing email at a later time (I'm making my way through each of the entries to verify details but it's taking time :o )

But I'm glad we can address this now though :) I'm afraid it is for applications released during the time frame of the competition, not for any released since last year's competition - sorry for any surprise and confusion :o

I'm lucky everyone is so honest :)

Well, actually I think it is a bit sad, because it means that 2 of my 3 submissions actually are not allowed in the competition because I did not do any work on them in the last 3 months.
How ever because I spent a lot of time on them in the last 10 months, I thought they still would be allowed.

Good software development doesn’t just fit into 3 months but is a process.

helex 2012-09-05 19:39

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by jonquark (Post 1261705)
D'oh - thanks for the speedy clarification Kojacker! I'll know for the next Jolla Coding competition :)

Jonquark, my feelings are with you. I missed the Beginners section at the first coding competition only by a single week. This will always happen, there must be at some point a line. Some are in, some are out. But it is always a good learning project to do some mobile development. Nobody knows if you will need this skills at some point in the future of your work life. So nobody will lose in such a competition and don't forget, also in the Updates section are prizes possible. :)


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