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jalyst 2013-03-18 19:13

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1329826)
Has this been here yet?
ST-Ericsson goes bust.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2013/03/18/s...a-be-affected/
Maybe the reason for delay or more delays to come?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1329847)
Yeah, that was expected, but Jolla didn't say whether it'll affect their first release or not. I guess if they'll be delayed - they'll announce it.

:( It wasn't clear whether they'd definitely go bust originally, only that they'd go their separate ways...
I hope this hasn't resulted in delays, I was skeptical about them using STE's top-end SoC* (from perf. perspective let alone delivery), maybe they switched to Qualcomm long ago now.

*not sure they'd even use that anyway, probably the next one down :-/

Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1329856)
Thing is, Jolla phones was already delayed by ~6 months. Reason could be this.

"up to 6mth", anywhere from 0-6mth....

Anyway, can we please get back to the main focus/intent of this thread please (unless the case can be made that this content is relevant in some way).

Eztran 2013-03-19 17:08

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Jolla have confirmed they at least intend to support CardDAV/CalDAV.

https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/statuses/313645867150221312

jalyst 2013-03-19 17:09

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
One for the docs I guess, have they said whether they'll support Google's new standard?
*EDIT* I've asked them using that Twitter link...

shmerl 2013-03-19 18:55

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
I let Stskeeps know about Google concerns and whitelisting etc. I'll add info that generic CalDAV / CarDAV will be supported to the doc. Do you want to transfer ready answers to maemo.org wiki? I'll have limited time these couple of weeks, I'll have more time later to do it.

mikecomputing 2013-03-19 19:07

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
I want to know if Jolla will have NFC? How big is NFC in china and is they using Mifare standard etc...

Question raised cause I port my nextgen NfcKeyring(stores all pins/password on phone crypotate using AES standard and Tag as AESKey) to Sailfish atm...

jalyst 2013-03-20 10:27

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1330145)
I want to know if Jolla will have NFC? How big is NFC in china and is they using Mifare standard etc...

Question raised cause I port my nextgen NfcKeyring(stores all pins/password on phone crypotate using AES standard and Tag as AESKey) to Sailfish atm...

Can you help transfer stuff to the Wiki that's cleared-up, & and add new content (like what you just raised) to the docs?
I suspect there's other good content raised in this thread over the last mth or so that hasn't been added, but I'm not sure we should go back to open-slather access to the docs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1330109)
Have they said whether they'll support Google's new standard?
*EDIT* I've asked them using that Twitter link...

Still no response from them, typical...
https://twitter.com/JediTWang/status/314325368817479680
update: seems they have provided a response now

Their response about STE's woes, not sure if much can be read into it though :-/
https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/314294904832528384

shmerl 2013-03-20 16:20

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Someone pointed me to this: https://code.google.com/p/qt-google-calendar/

anthonie 2013-03-20 16:57

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Excuse up front if this topic has been covered elsewhere.

I would like to know if Sailfish is going to support non-cloud synchronization solutions. Preferably by syncevolution support, (which would include MS ActiveSync support) to allow exchange with common PIM desktop-solutions, like Evolution and Mozilla Thunderbird.

AFAIK it doesn't work (at least I didn't get it to work) on the N900 and my N9*; - something that annoys me to no end. Would I have the skills I'd start working on something, but I'd rather see a Sailfish OS native solution, built-in and ready to roll.

It does surprise me, to hardly see any non-cloud results when googling. Does everyone use a cloud solution or is no one interested in desktop/mobile PIM exchange?

* I run Evolution on various Debian (based) systems.

shmerl 2013-03-20 17:28

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Not sure about CardDAV, but for Caldav you can use calendarserver with most Linux distros. And sync against your local machine.

There is also davical - looks like it works with CardDAV.

anthonie 2013-03-21 00:04

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1330341)
Not sure about CardDAV, but for Caldav you can use calendarserver with most Linux distros. And sync against your local machine.

There is also davical - looks like it works with CardDAV.

I know, but the problem lies for me in the lack of platforms supporting it. For instance, my girlfriend runs Debian on her EEE, but has a Samsung SG2. Sometimes we share appointments, so I would rather go for ActiveSync (even though it's Microsoft), that at least is natively supported by Android as well as syncevolution. CardDAV is ok, but limited and buggy and not very much cross-platform, again, if I am not mistaken. Syncevolution with proper non-cloud support would allow me to use the same protocol sharing PIM with her Android and EEE machine from both my phone and desktop, which is also usefull during the maintenance of her EEE.

For me it would be a relieve if Sailfish would finally allow users to use an implementation of syncevolution that does not rely on a remote cloud server.


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