Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

I don't actually have any links for you, unfortunately. This was gleaned from talking to a Maemo developer very familiar with the Linux kernel who explained it to me. MMS is nowhere near as simple as people think... it's like a separate connection which needs to cut off the current one to work... at least in the kernel in the N900 now from what I understand. Upstream has apparently committed stuff that should allow it to work now.

So it's not a matter of something that was forgotten, but something that just couldn't be implemented at the time.

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

Well, score one for Peter (and Nokia) : indeed things have improved, and history does not repeat :-)

Sometimes it's good to be proven wrong !

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

Me too :eek:
I use MMS a lot to send pictures and even videos to non-iPhone friends.
And I use MMS to do Mobile Upload of pictures to Facebook a lot on my N95 and 5800, the fastest way to upload picture to FB.
It's a bummer if I have to to run an FB app and go thru other steps to upload a picture, the way people using iPhone have to :mad:

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

You did watch the marketing videos, right?

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

Uploading a photo to flickr or facebook will probably be a function that's one click away from taking or opening an image.

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

But it has been in even the simplest feature phones for years.
To many users, it's the "simple" thing that people are expecting and I was supursed the develpers simply ignored that demand but put in features that will be far less used than MMS.

It's still the easiest and cheapest way to share pictures and videos with other people. It requires no plan or just a message plan without the hassle of an expensive data plan.

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

Who said it was ignored? I just got done telling you that the issue is that the Linux kernel *could not do it* until extremely recently and that there's a chance it will be added in the future.

And by the way, this is definitely NOT the phone to buy if you're not planning on having a data plan.

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

... which is all nice and fine, but doesn't help if the person you want to send the image to isn't on flickr/facebook/ovi/.... and/or isn't online at the time.

The charming thing about MMS is that, unlike email for most people, it will appear on the receivers end instantly and even ring/beep/... to make him aware of the new message.

Yes, technically you could do the same with push mail, fancy facebook widgets and thelike, but this hasn't arrived yet. Not at the people I send MMS to.

In my own personal use-case (which, I know, Nokia doesn't care about), I don't know a lot of people I could share pictures with using online services. Only few use flickr, I can't recall anyone who uses facebook. I would have to use email, but that's nonsense... most of what I send by MMS is funstuff, things that are sent because they happen now and make sense in the context of a phone call or a SMS-chat that happened before. I'd hardly ever send the same photos by mail, because then they'd be read hours, sometimes days later and would only cause confusion.

So if it's really a technical problem: Go solve it. Quickly.
If it's the usual "nobody needs it" (like nobody needs everything else I use on a daily basis),... be prepared for my everlasting frustration. (S60 isn't all that bad, is it?)

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

yeah i think vertical mode is really important, having this device can also be called a phone (it still mainly an internet tablet)

it should have a vertical mode at least on the desktop and dashboard =( not only on phone mode, other than that for application it is depends on how the developer design it..

Re: Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!
 

on vertical/portrait mode:

I'm not bothered that the only thing it does in portrait is the phone dialer. All too often I'm annoyed by switching back and forth between portrait and landscape orientations on my G1. The ONLY thing I prefer to do in portrait mode is ... phone dialing, and browsing LONG lists. Everything else, whether the phone is open or closed, I either already do in landscape mode, or wish could be done in/forced to landscape mode.

So, if the UI isn't at the point where it can flawlessly, seamlessly, shift back and forth, without too little nor too much sensitivity, with simple gestures ... then, IMO, erring on the side of "do everything in landscape mode" is entirely acceptable to me.

(if they ever do get it to the point of being able to seamlessly shift with an accelerometer, I'd prefer to see a preference setting with 3 values: a) auto-shift via accelerometer, b) shift based on device open or closed, or c) shift via a button somewhere (common main menu option? a hardware button? not sure) ... the third one would be a welcome addition to Android, IMO)