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shmerl 2013-03-21 02:01

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
I thought there is decent CardDAV support on Android, but I never really checked (I don't use it).

Here is what's coming up with simple search in Google store:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=carddav&c=apps

Looks like it's not a built in support, but requires some extra applications. On the other hand CardDAV is probably the most cross platform solution, since others are even less common.

mikecomputing 2013-03-30 13:14

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Old but I vote for unlike :P

http://irelandstechnologyblog.com/20...ailfish-meego/

jalyst 2013-03-30 16:19

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Add that to the Concerns & Criticisms doc if you want...
It's not as important as other content, but it's still somewhat significant.
Personally I don't think it's that bad, although I feel unfollow would be better.
Perhaps in China they'll re-use unfollow, or tie both concepts together.
Have we heard from stskeeps (Carsten) yet, last few times I tried he no longer responded :mad:

don_falcone 2013-03-30 17:03

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Use CardDAV-Sync Beta under Android. In contrast to syncevolution, it just works.

mikecomputing 2013-03-30 17:58

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1333025)
Add that to the Concerns & Criticisms doc if you want...
It's not as important as other content, but it's still somewhat significant.
Personally I don't think it's that bad, although I feel unfollow would be better.
Perhaps in China they'll re-use unfollow, or tie both concepts together.
Have we heard from stskeeps (Carsten) yet, last few times I tried he no longer responded :mad:

I think we have to respect the facts that if they are plan to announce a device in some months they probadly working they asses of atm. and thats includes stkeeps.

jalyst 2013-03-31 04:23

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1333046)
I think we have to respect the facts that if they are plan to announce a device in some months they probadly working they asses of atm. and thats includes stkeeps.

I don't see why we have to respect it, not after the assurances they gave us many months ago...
Besides, it's a initiative that would benefit them just as much as us, if they choose to leverage it properly.
Because they've chosen not to, there'll be way more disappointment at launch than there would've been.
It's not too late but it won't be as useful as it could've been, & it'll be too late* if it's not fully embraced by June.

*to be meaningfully useful

Dave999 2013-03-31 06:11

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
As said before jolla lack all the buissniss and marketing machine. They don't understand how to manage expectation. It will be fun to watch the release.

Jolla building a device, yes, but what they should really build is a community. 8 months to launch.

mariusmssj 2013-03-31 07:25

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1333129)
As said before jolla lack all the buissniss and marketing machine. They don't understand how to manage expectation. It will be fun to watch the release.

Jolla building a device, yes, but what they should really build is a community. 8 months to launch.

Define "Build a community"!!

Dave999 2013-03-31 07:53

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1333135)
Define "Build a community"!!

a way to attract and expand the number of supporters :confused:

mikecomputing 2013-03-31 09:47

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1333121)
I don't see why we have to respect it, not after the assurances they gave us many months ago...
Besides, it's a initiative that would benefit them just as much as us, if they choose to leverage it properly.
Because they've chosen not to, there'll be way more disappointment at launch than there would've been.
It's not too late but it won't be as useful as it could've been, & it'll be too late* if it's not fully embraced by June.

*to be meaningfully useful

Well they HAVE listened to us. But they should care about theyr bussiness in the first place. Not a few fanboys at TMO. Thats a fact. We can cry as much as we want about it but this is how bussiness is! They can't just answer question all the time what 5-10 people want at TMO when they have to focus on:

* Getting first device out
* Marketing it
* Getting more companys use sailfish
* Getting pro developers make apps for sailfishos
* Fix bugs in the SDK and make more example apps
* Make core apps ready for the upcoming device
* Getting more HW partners (STEricsson RIP very bad for Jolla IMHO even if they say no problem for them-...)


List goes on. Theyr are around just around 60 persons working like crazy on the OS for got sake. There is no way for them sitting here answer questions all the time. I am sure they are up to the head with other stuff atm. They are very small company and its very risky. company may very well be gone after first device if they dont fokus on bussines first.

However compared to the big companys they HAVE answered ALOT of questions already....

* They have given alot of answers at Twtter, Facebook, media etc...

* They have invited developers atleast two times on Hackevents

Its very easy forget that. And start whine when they dont have time to answer. But we have to have patience, there is no other way. If we don't like it go elsewhere and hope that company gets faster answers to the "community" but I doubt anyone will get an answer from Samsungs Tizen or Firefox project.


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