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kinggo 2019-08-19 16:42

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1559288)
As a Maemo community member Chen not FX Chen:

Man you need to take a deep breath and I'm afraid Pro1 is not suitable for you. Buy something cheaper and easier to get, and support morally to Fxtec to survive and hopefully it can get slightly bigger and stronger and can satisfy you better next time. :D

t-shirts man, t-shirts. Don't be Jolla and not take money on 2€ piece of plastic that people were willing to buy for 30 but it was never in stock after initial batch. So give us something else to support you in the meantime.

chenliangchen 2019-08-19 17:14

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1559289)
t-shirts man, t-shirts. Don't be Jolla and not take money on 2€ piece of plastic that people were willing to buy for 30 but it was never in stock after initial batch. So give us something else to support you in the meantime.

Placing (T-Shirt) order now :-)

Edit: Intend to give out for free for next event and send to community for free.

catbus 2019-08-19 17:31

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Where is that 33% information? Newer found... Link please?

I know i'm blind but anyway...

And... T-Shirt would be nice. Wife is not angry if I buy clothes ;)

kinggo 2019-08-19 17:34

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1559292)
Placing (T-Shirt) order now :-)

Edit: Intend to give out for free for next event and send to community for free.

in that case, I'll take two for one deal :D

Kabouik 2019-08-19 17:59

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1559290)
just checked the official fxtec site - no changes about the price. where do you see the updated prices?

I just went to the website and saw the 1032 USD price incl. shipping, which I converted and compared to the 667€ I paid some weeks ago for my pre-order.

However, checking on a different computer now, the price still shows as 649+18€. This means the 1032 USD I saw earlier today were probably just due to my other computer not being geolocalized. The price I saw was probably the initial price for non-EU customers, which seems to be 8% more than the price for EU customers. In any case, not related to the price after pre-orders; I'll edit my post about the 8%.

t-b 2019-08-19 18:51

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1559213)
for me it's frustrating because my N900 is dead and currently I have to wait with some monochrome dialer.

Or buy another N900? This one is reasonably priced and sold by a seller selling since 2013 with good ratings. So seems legit. US $95,99
- EUR 86,44 worldwide shipping - no shipment costs.

https://www.ebay.nl/itm/Nokia-N-Seri...MAAOSwdxJaz0xj

The interesting thing with the N900 is that its value seems to be rising. So you should be able to get approximately the same money for it if you sell it and want use that money to buy a Pro 1 (or something else). I still got a couple of almost brand new N900's in original box, waiting patiently for Leste or maybe they will be sacrificed to help me buy the next 'perfect´ phone :)

catbus 2019-08-19 19:18

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1559295)
The price I saw was probably the initial price for non-EU customers, which seems to be 8% more than the price for EU customers. In any case, not related to the price after pre-orders; I'll edit my post about the 8%.

This was todays newsletter:

"The price of the Pro1 is increasing for our non-EU customers due to various global factors outside of our control, but good news is that the special pre-order pricing is still available until 31st August."

If i understand this right... If i live in Eu -area, price is still same? So much guesses, wondering and maybe misinformation read i have, today...

T-Shirt thing was good news ;)

gtmaster303 2019-08-19 19:44

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1559292)
Placing (T-Shirt) order now :-)

Edit: Intend to give out for free for next event and send to community for free.

Lol would love it if you could throw one in with my pre order. F(x)tec swag :cool:

Breeze5 2019-08-19 19:45

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Any new news about multi-boot?
Or about the scandic keyboard? Gonna place an order soon, should i take QWERTY or QWERTZ for my scandinavian letters? :confused:

ThomasAH 2019-08-19 20:06

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1559275)
Thanks for all the support, criticise and help on clarification. Much appreciate the support from the community, it's the power for me to keep things moving.

...

Thanks for taking the time to give us an update, Chen! :)

Looking very much forward to the next 1 or 2 months and to experience that new device... :D

xman 2019-08-19 22:13

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
And now for something completely different :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECWq6aKXYAARHnR.jpg

x

Edit:
That screen looks pretty easy to replace!!! Good new if accurate. Also look at how intricate all the parts are compared to slate phones, this probably adds to the cost of making more human have hands on.

Metsämies 2019-08-20 01:35

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze5 (Post 1559303)
Any new news about multi-boot?
Or about the scandic keyboard? Gonna place an order soon, should i take QWERTY or QWERTZ for my scandinavian letters? :confused:

Let's wait for real scandic keyboard. It's coming later.

Breeze5 2019-08-20 04:30

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1559311)
Let's wait for real scandic keyboard. It's coming later.

voi voi
I don't want to wait :( I want it now! :p
But shouldn't it be easy to replace the keyboard mat?

endsormeans 2019-08-20 05:46

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
@ mosen..
Its all good man...really...
I would rather we were both misinterpreted (and mistaken ...especially on my end concerning that 1/3 more increase) ...... got upset, indignant ...even furious..
... realized different and sorted it out...
Than for either or both of us to be just quietly fuming with anything unspoken.
So it really has turned out for the best.

My apologies for upsetting you..
And the fact you apologized ...
is fact enough that you don't need to apologize..
:D
We are all good mosen.
No worries.

As far as my interest in the project goes...
I have quietly watched until my ...mmm....
mistaken outburst? :D
it has been borderline for me as to whether or not I would throw coin at one.
My mistake.was the slew of different currencies used during discussion of it ...some figures not showing the currency it applied to ...but was inferred to in a past mention...that is where my confusion sprang from.
The mistaken (on my part) sharp increase ..just threw me..
Hence my reaction.

hagiz 2019-08-20 07:34

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze5 (Post 1559312)
voi voi
I don't want to wait :( I want it now! :p
But shouldn't it be easy to replace the keyboard mat?

I'm hoping for a replacement mat, until then ordered the QWERTZ as it looks like it works best as scandic remap.

mosen 2019-08-20 09:14

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagiz (Post 1559316)
I'm hoping for a replacement map, until then ordered the QWERTZ as it looks like it works best as scandic remap.

At the community events we where told that the keypad is a glued part for technical necessity.
Now seeing chens tear down photo linked above might suggest otherwise since all the parts are disassembled.
Only if you look closer at the white lower keypad part it is kind of bend after the tear down?

I was under the impression it is not user replaceable until i saw the tear down. Clarification would be awesome. Is it only replaceable if you match chens skills, which is highly unlikely and thus they better not advertise? :D

Koiruus 2019-08-20 10:18

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Don't know if the phone parts picture is taken from a disassembled phone, or a phone waiting for to get assembled... It's perhaps tiny difference, but if the picture has been taken before everything has been glued together, it obviously makes assembling a lot easier than disassembling :D

mosen 2019-08-20 10:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koiruus (Post 1559320)
Don't know if the phone parts picture is taken from a disassembled phone, or a phone waiting for to get assembled... It's perhaps tiny difference, but if the picture has been taken before everything has been glued together, it obviously makes assembling a lot easier than disassembling :D

If you look at how bend the camera dust shield, white keypad part and antennas are, i think it was very carefully teared down.
Also the main point of the tweet is "Most part will be easily swappable via a screw driver".

ThomasAH 2019-08-20 12:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1559321)
If you look at how bend the camera dust shield, white keypad part and antennas are, i think it was very carefully teared down.
Also the main point of the tweet is "Most part will be easily swappable via a screw driver".

That's just awesome :) Adds a lot to the durability of the device as a whole.

gtmaster303 2019-08-20 14:01

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Name me another phone company that will openly tear down their own device and tell you it's easy to repair. Pretty awesome to see

rinigus 2019-08-20 14:42

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1559327)
Name me another phone company that will openly tear down their own device and tell you it's easy to repair. Pretty awesome to see

fairphone, I expect.

Few pages ago, @taixzo asked about double tap on screen to wakeup the device. Any info regarding it?

ravelo 2019-08-20 14:46

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I saw a video on twitter showing wake up by double tap.

ravelo 2019-08-20 14:48

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
btw, on fxtec forum Erik officially stated now that spare parts will be available to buy later.

Kabouik 2019-08-20 15:55

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
This whole F(x)tec thingamajig is being one of the most frustrating events in my geeky life. It doesn't matter how hard I focus to contract time, or how often I refresh this TMO thread to help time fly, it seems time gets more and more dilated everyday. The closer we are from shipments, the longer the wait feels.

Nothing expresses my feeling better than:

https://reho.st/self/0a18b5d24f94d99...2cccccb621.png

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-08-20 16:11

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1559333)
This whole F(x)tec thingamajig is being one of the most frustrating events in my geeky life. It doesn't matter how hard I focus to contract time, or how often I refresh this TMO thread to help time fly, it seems time gets more and more dilated everyday. The closer we are from shipments, the longer the wait feels.

Nothing expresses my feeling better than:

https://reho.st/self/0a18b5d24f94d99...2cccccb621.png

"Waiting for my phone to come in the mail makes me wish for a nuclear winter."

kinggo 2019-08-20 16:29

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
WTF are you blabbing about :eek:
Sure, they are so stupid that they as neverheardof startup will try to sell phone for more than the price of note 10+ or almost any iPhone.
From what Chen wrote here yesterday I think that they don't know how much they will have to raise the price. Yet. But they do know that they will have to and yet, they are still giving a chance to everybody who wants to preorder to do that in the next 11 days. If that's not fair and assuring in their intentions to put pro1 in as much hand as possible at a lower price then I don't know what else they could to to please you.

DDark 2019-08-20 16:31

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1559335)
official site updated, but still no honest info about pricing.

why so essential to keep post-preorder price as a secret? the only answer might be that it's WAY higher than we can expect. like 1,5x times more than preorder one. guess the ones who refuse taking preorder will be slapped in the face with some ~1200 euro price or so.

They might not know until first batch is finished/fully ordered.

Can’t understand the point of your posts, they got no constructive criticism, only complaints about pricing. If the price is too high for you, don’t buy it. Keep in mind that this phone is from small startup company, there will be issues, shortcomings and things you won’t like. Small company can’t provide you same level of service as a big business, simply because there’s not enough hands to handle some of the stuff.

xman 2019-08-20 16:34

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravelo (Post 1559330)
I saw a video on twitter showing wake up by double tap.

Trying to find the db tap video, I stumble upon this gem!

https://youtu.be/ASbozZCx0oE

This guy does a nice review of the froscon vers of the fx pro1 and he also has a cosmo for so experience comparisons ... well without own the fx yet of course.

He also show it with terminal being used, both vertical with softkb
and horizontally with hwkd! and some other nice shots.
x

catbus 2019-08-20 16:36

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1559335)
why so essential to keep post-preorder price as a secret? the only answer might be that it's WAY higher than we can expect. like 1,5x times more than preorder one. guess the ones who refuse taking preorder will be slapped in the face with some ~1200 euro price or so.

Where from You get those numbers?

"Fungi" -theme was last month?

mosen 2019-08-20 16:38

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
There is a fresh clarification by Erik regarding Scandic layout in the FXforum:

https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/price/page/5/#post-32485


Quote:

Originally Posted by xman (Post 1559340)
Trying to find the db tap video, I stumble upon this gem!

You totally need to subscribe to Leszeks channel, he does sfos content regulary!
You might already know him from his superb LLsVideoplayer from Jolla store.

EDIT, here is the double tap video.
I guess it was only on twitter & fb
https://twitter.com/chenliangchen/st...90913163284481

kinggo 2019-08-20 16:42

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1559341)

"Fungi" -theme was last month?

this simply deserves quoting :D

catbus 2019-08-20 19:10

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1559333)
This whole F(x)tec thingamajig is being one of the most frustrating events in my geeky life. It doesn't matter how hard I focus to contract time, or how often I refresh this TMO thread to help time fly, it seems time gets more and more dilated everyday. The closer we are from shipments, the longer the wait feels.

When you come little older You will notice that life, and everything, is flying faster than You like...

So if You feel little frustrating about waiting... Do like me... - Don't brake Your keyboard "F5", hitting that on every minute...

Go out, meet some friends, tell them about Your becoming phone, play some pool, one beer...

And if You like, watch some movie... Go to gym... Harvest trees. Help Your parents with their Win-10 -problems and Android (<- Yes, they might use those)...

Live a life and check this only few times a day ;)

It will take only about month...

[sorry typos etc...]

Breeze5 2019-08-20 19:42

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1559342)
There is a fresh clarification by Erik regarding Scandic layout in the FXforum:

https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/price/page/5/#post-32485

Hope it doesn't take up to 3 months to get it out on the market...
I can't wait so long :(

Kabouik 2019-08-20 19:47

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1559347)
When you come little older You will notice that life, and everything, is flying faster than You like...

So if You feel little frustrating about waiting... Do like me... - Don't brake Your keyboard "F5", hitting that on every minute...

Go out, meet some friends, tell them about Your becoming phone, play some pool, one beer...

And if You like, watch some movie... Go to gym... Harvest trees. Help Your parents with their Win-10 -problems and Android (<- Yes, they might use those)...

Live a life and check this only few times a day ;)

It will take only about month...

[sorry typos etc...]

:eek:

Oh I know. Unfortunately I am afraid I am older than you might have assumed. :D I was merely trying to distract shaihkritzer from the price tag controversy — in vain.

Though it is true that the wait feels endless.

https://reho.st/thumb/self/0a18b5d24...2cccccb621.png

catbus 2019-08-20 20:09

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Waiting is always feeling endless... ...in pool-table... Your opponent is just there and hitting balls with a stick... You just waiting on your turn... frustrating... ;)

Kabouik 2019-08-20 20:19

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
That feeling, exactly. :D Another thing I'd trade for a nuclear winter.

catbus 2019-08-20 20:47

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1559354)
because there's absolutely no common sense in announcing higher price in future witout telling the actual price.

No one else won't answer to You, but I will try do now... By asking details from You...

What do You afraid of? Where do You live? Is Lemberg in Germany? In EU? And did You read latest information from fxtec -forum about pricing?

Sorry and Ötyä!

gtmaster303 2019-08-20 20:50

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I wonder how big the first batch of phones is. I know another user asked but it doesn't look like it was answered

Breeze5 2019-08-20 21:08

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I placed my pre-order and gonna wait for the scandic keyboard layout. But i don't know for how long i can wait :(
voi voi, i got order number 32590
Good night, yötä.

olf 2019-08-20 21:19

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1559360)
I wonder how big the first batch of phones is. I know another user asked but it doesn't look like it was answered

I would regard and handle this as a company secret, as Jolla does with the number of sold SailfishOS licenses ("SailfishX") and the number of active devices accessing the Jolla Store.

Any published number will generate more critical comments:
- Oh, so few! Is this project really feasible, then?
- Oh, so many. But why am I not among the first batch, then!

And while the first batch comprises a specific number of assembled devices, things can go wrong as it is the first mass production run, so F(x)tec may receive far less working devices.
Hence even they do not know how many "first batch" devices will be available.

Why does this number appear to be relevant for you?


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