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mscion 2010-11-29 18:12

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 885384)
I've put a new Easy Debian image on my server, v3e, with the new Open Office 3.2.1 installed. Just download it with the Easy Debian installer on the Maemo menu. Hopefully you guys will test it out and tell me what I did wrong... :)

Hi qole,

I'm currently downloading the new version. Besides including OO 3.2.1 are there any other changes or fixes? Perhaps this is documented somewhere? I didn't see anything in the wiki.

Thanks!

qole 2010-11-29 20:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi mscion,

I updated OO.o and Gimp, tested to make sure I didn't break sound (I didn't), and changed the xephwm5 script to use the keyboard focus helper that works with PR1.2.

That's all. I checked around and didn't see any other requests. Was there something important that I forgot?

mscion 2010-11-29 20:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 885763)
Hi mscion,

I updated OO.o and Gimp, tested to make sure I didn't break sound (I didn't), and changed the xephwm5 script to use the keyboard focus helper that works with PR1.2.

That's all. I checked around and didn't see any other requests. Was there something important that I forgot?

OO.o is definately coming up quicker. Takes about 20 seconds
which is noticably better. Also If I close and open OO writer it takes
about 5 seconds. I see that the math editor is not included so I got
it using snyaptic, which, by the way, has a nicer look, from squeeze.
However this is not sufficient to get all the math fonts needed, even
for some simple partial differential equations, so I also got
openoffice.org on squeeze. This did not seem to make a difference
with timings. Equations look good now.

Using "ctrl up" did not make full screen and my key definitions did
not work. So I have to go check .xbindkeysrc. Not to worry, I have a
copy of the one I was using somewhere and will try it later.

Thanks again for the improvements.

mscion 2010-11-29 22:36

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 885779)
OO.o is definately coming up quicker. Takes about 20 seconds
which is noticably better. Also If I close and open OO writer it takes
about 5 seconds. I see that the math editor is not included so I got
it using snyaptic, which, by the way, has a nicer look, from squeeze.
However this is not sufficient to get all the math fonts needed, even
for some simple partial differential equations, so I also got
openoffice.org on squeeze. This did not seem to make a difference
with timings. Equations look good now.

Using "ctrl up" did not make full screen and my key definitions did
not work. So I have to go check .xbindkeysrc. Not to worry, I have a
copy of the one I was using somewhere and will try it later.

Thanks again for the improvements.

Have to make a correction... It appears equations are not accurately
reproduced if they were originally made with WORD. This may be due
to the version of OO being used. I had been able to do this
before. Am checking...

qole 2010-11-29 22:50

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
mscion: The .xbindkeys file is part of the Easy Debian package, and that didn't get updated here, only the image file. Check to see if you have an .xbindkeys.dist file, and if you do, copy that over .xbindkeys and that should get the new key combos working.

fw190 2010-11-30 13:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I haven’t been following this thread but something came to my mind. There is much talking about the lack of flash 10.1 in maemo. Is it possible to launch a browser in debian which supports flash 10.1?

extendedping 2010-11-30 21:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi did I do something wrong? I installed the latest easy debian today and put the debian chroot on my desktop. now when I click the icon I end up with the following prompt...

root@Nokia-N900:/#

pwd reveals I am at / which I assume is the root of easy debian. hmm I would like to be root at /root with a prompt that reflects that I am in the chroot as opposed to Nokia-N900. I had easy debian back in the pr 1.2 days (I hosed my install) and think the prompt was different and that I was taken to the /root back then.

Anyway thanks for listening, I will start looking at my old posts so see if I had some custom configuration when I had it installed under 1.2.

rebhana 2010-11-30 21:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 885763)
I updated OO.o and Gimp, tested to make sure I didn't break sound (I didn't), and changed the xephwm5 script to use the keyboard focus helper that works with PR1.2.

That's all. I checked around and didn't see any other requests. Was there something important that I forgot?

Hi qole, it will be a couple of days before I have enough time to test the new image. Did you upgrade libpulse0 to the squeeze version? Without that I couldn't install the python stuff for eric and calibre, but upgrading libpulse0 broke sound for me.

extendedping 2010-12-01 15:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I am reinstalling easy debian, I have tried 3 times to install the image but after a minute my phone reboots...I have tried without my lv profile as well (I am running be default at lv 250/850 but tried at the stock 125 600. hmmm...

Straycat 2010-12-01 15:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 886919)
I am reinstalling easy debian, I have tried 3 times to install the image but after a minute my phone reboots...I have tried without my lv profile as well (I am running be default at lv 250/850 but tried at the stock 125 600. hmmm...

I have here the very same problem.

Actually I run the "v3d" version without any trouble but I would want to upgrade.

I don't delete this image to unpack the new "v3e". I think delete is not necessary (is it?).

The device reboots itself while unpack the "v3e" image file.

What I'm doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Straycat 2010-12-01 15:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Sorry.

From the wiki:

Quote:

Deb Img Install
for the initial download and extraction of the Debian image. For installing a new version of the Debian image from http:qole.org/files, delete the old image (or move/rename it appropriately) and rerun Deb Img Install.
That's my mistake. I don't delete the old image. Nor move/rename.

I will check doing it.

Straycat 2010-12-01 16:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Checked!!

Renaming the old image file helped so much.

New image file working (after a pretty long time to unzip).

Regards.

qole 2010-12-01 23:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 886494)
Hi qole, it will be a couple of days before I have enough time to test the new image. Did you upgrade libpulse0 to the squeeze version? Without that I couldn't install the python stuff for eric and calibre, but upgrading libpulse0 broke sound for me.

No, I don't want to touch the libpulse0 library... But if you are forced to do so, you need to copy the Maemo version over the Debian version.

Just to be sure, could you try installing the offending apps using --no-install-recommends on the apt-get command line? That often keeps unnecessary things from getting upgraded.

But maybe I should upgrade the pulse stuff and then hack it back down to the Maemo version... Does anyone actually use Easy Debian for multimedia stuff, now that the N900 has so many media players?

qole 2010-12-01 23:36

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
The reports of phone reboots are very interesting. Mine rebooted as well, while decompressing the file. It totally trashed the internal memory in the process, and forced me to fix the drive using fsck! What's going on, I wonder? A bug in lzma?

mankir 2010-12-01 23:40

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 887223)
No, I don't want to touch the libpulse0 library... But if you are forced to do so, you need to copy the Maemo version over the Debian version.

Just to be sure, could you try installing the offending apps using --no-install-recommends on the apt-get command line? That often keeps unnecessary things from getting upgraded.

But maybe I should upgrade the pulse stuff and then hack it back down to the Maemo version... Does anyone actually use Easy Debian for multimedia stuff, now that the N900 has so many media players?

I would like to use mixxx and lmms, audacity works with the ubuntu-karmic-image.

rm42 2010-12-02 14:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Wow, I just found an excellent article about customizing LXDE. May want to try it with your EasyDebian install. ;)

http://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=1055

LXDE comes after the Xfce part.

extendedping 2010-12-02 14:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I bet easy debian server edition would not crash the phone.

Cue 2010-12-02 15:28

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 887545)
Wow, I just found an excellent article about customizing LXDE. May want to try it with your EasyDebian install. ;)

http://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=1055

LXDE comes after the Xfce part.

Can't seem to open the article, will try to read it later today. I customized LXDE and I think that's what caused the Gdk error I mentioned two pages back.

Radicalz38 2010-12-02 15:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I unpacked mine on PC... That way less stress for my n900

rm42 2010-12-02 17:03

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 887616)
Can't seem to open the article, will try to read it later today. I customized LXDE and I think that's what caused the Gdk error I mentioned two pages back.

It is a PDF file. Here is the direct link:

http://www.pclosmag.com/pdf/Gtk-Xfce-LXDE-SE.pdf

qole 2010-12-02 17:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I saw a report of Flash no longer working in Easy Debian since PR1.3 in another thread, and sure enough, iceweasel now segfaults when trying to open a youtube.com video... even the old image...

rebhana 2010-12-02 20:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 887223)
But maybe I should upgrade the pulse stuff and then hack it back down to the Maemo version... Does anyone actually use Easy Debian for multimedia stuff, now that the N900 has so many media players?

I think that would be a very good thing. Easy Debian would not be needed so much as a media player, but for instance you could use it for sound editing things you recorded under Maemo with recaller.

qole 2010-12-02 21:16

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
The pulse stuff isn't very out-of-date in the current version... I'm getting 0.9.21-1 installed, 0.9.21-3 in squeeze. I really think there should be no reason why any apps would require an update at this point. I tested installing eric with "--no-install-recommends" and I didn't see libpulse0 in the list of apps to be upgraded.

EDIT: What I'd really like to see is Maemo 5's flash plugin hacked into Debian, the way Stskeeps did for the Diablo version (the version Easy Debian has been using).

mscion 2010-12-02 21:28

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 885881)
mscion: The .xbindkeys file is part of the Easy Debian package, and that didn't get updated here, only the image file. Check to see if you have an .xbindkeys.dist file, and if you do, copy that over .xbindkeys and that should get the new key combos working.

For some reason my autostart file no longer had the line

@xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeysrc

as described in the wiki

Once I put it back in my key definitions worked.

Could autostart have been reset to the original with the new image?

qole 2010-12-02 21:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
mscion: the system autostart file in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart will of course be the version shipped with the image file. But if you have a personal version in ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart it should not have changed...

Straycat 2010-12-03 11:27

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 887225)
The reports of phone reboots are very interesting. Mine rebooted as well, while decompressing the file. It totally trashed the internal memory in the process, and forced me to fix the drive using fsck! What's going on, I wonder? A bug in lzma?

For me it was sufficient with touching closing debian button and reboot.

yopyop123 2010-12-03 20:55

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi ! My phone was power off while the extraction.
How can I start again the extraction ?

Sorry for my bad english

qole 2010-12-03 20:58

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
yopyop123:

Restart the installer, and select the same file.
The installer will check your downloaded file and go straight to the extraction.

Radicalz38 2010-12-03 21:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yopyop123 (Post 888697)
Hi ! My phone was power off while the extraction.
How can I start again the extraction ?

Sorry for my bad english

Or you could extract it in your pc using 7z and transfer the 2gb file in your device without worrying it might restart or get corrupt.

Necc 2010-12-03 21:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
So not i'm the only one here who get mythic reboots after installing PR1.3 and putting the N900 to stress (~100% CPU usage) for a longer period of time with or without over/underclock. Strange... sorry for off.

extendedping 2010-12-03 21:39

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
excuse me guys I'm about to sneeze....aaaahhhh easydebianserveredition chuuuu.

sorry.

Reffyyyy 2010-12-03 21:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Being rude won't cause people to help faster.

mscion 2010-12-03 21:57

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi,

When I start open office writer from LXDE or from the Debian chroot
using "oowriter" I find some fonts missing for equations.
But if I run openoffice writer from xterminal using "debbie oowriter"
(or just using the oowriter icon) I find that the math fonts look very nice.

My guess is I need to define some paths in LXDE so that the fonts are
found or it is related to the problem I was having with the xbindkeysrc,
but I can't quite figure it out.. Any ideas here?

Thanks!

yopyop123 2010-12-03 21:59

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Thank you for yours answers
But restart the installer and select the same file, : There is this message " ERROR! DECOMPRESSION FAILED! Unable to install Debian 5/6 image with OO.o 3.2.1 Unknown lzma error ". Do you know why ?

And connection with computer doesn't run...

Necc 2010-12-03 22:03

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Probably because your last extraction is still there and corrupted?

1) try deleting the failed extraction
2) if fails, then connect to PC and use a scandisk (remember, FAT32 x.x )
3) try deleting again
4) goto 2

radub 2010-12-03 23:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
hello all,
I need gtk+ and gtkmm from squeeze to compile this app from here: mangler.org
Is it safe to pull them in?

qole 2010-12-04 00:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
mscion: If your fonts are in ~/.fonts (ie in your home directory), then you will only be able to access them when logging in to Easy Debian as "user". If you use the Debian Chroot icon, you'll be going in as "root" and those fonts will not be visible to your apps.

I don't have an explanation for your font problem in LXDE...

You can probably fix the font problem by copying the fonts to /usr/local/share/fonts (in your chroot)... unless that's where they already are, in which case, well, I have no idea... :(


Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 888742)
Hi,

When I start open office writer from LXDE or from the Debian chroot
using "oowriter" I find some fonts missing for equations.
But if I run openoffice writer from xterminal using "debbie oowriter"
(or just using the oowriter icon) I find that the math fonts look very nice.

My guess is I need to define some paths in LXDE so that the fonts are
found or it is related to the problem I was having with the xbindkeysrc,
but I can't quite figure it out.. Any ideas here?

Thanks!


qole 2010-12-04 00:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
radub: make sure you always use
Code:

sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
to ensure you don't pull anything extra when installing and updating.

extendedping 2010-12-04 02:11

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy (Post 888735)
Being rude won't cause people to help faster.

Didn't mean to offend anyone. Annoying perhaps but was I really rude?

rebhana 2010-12-04 09:18

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 887223)
But maybe I should upgrade the pulse stuff and then hack it back down to the Maemo version...

Is it very complicated to hack pulse down to Maemo or just a matter of replacing some files in the image? I would appreciate some DIY instructions if possible, and if they are simple enough, we could include them in the wiki for the sake of those who for some reason did upgrade pulse.


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