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fatalsaint 2010-04-22 18:07

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I'm just helping to reach the magical number...

Move along now.. :D

little_beat 2010-04-22 18:09

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Actually, when Android 2.2 will be released, everyone would likely be waiting for firmware update for their devices just like here. Nexus would probably get the update first, while all the other devices-specific forums would have speculation treads just like this one.

mr_ian84 2010-04-22 18:36

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Nokia r letting me down :(

Android phones are constantly getting updates with new features, while we're stuck with ugly PR1.1.1

Flash 10.1 has been announced for beta for Android and what about maemo??????

come on guys


I really hope that this PR1.2 will be released end of April

joshv06 2010-04-22 19:02

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I'm tired, I need to start going to sleep early.

nosa101 2010-04-22 19:09

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_ian84 (Post 623169)
Nokia r letting me down :(

Android phones are constantly getting updates with new features, while we're stuck with ugly PR1.1.1

Flash 10.1 has been announced for beta for Android and what about maemo??????

come on guys


I really hope that this PR1.2 will be released end of April

Not every android has 2.1 yet.

Dave999 2010-04-22 19:23

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
The release is tomorrow according to my fake source.

v13 2010-04-22 19:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 623203)
Not every android has 2.1 yet.

As a PoC, HTC Hero owners are waiting for an upgrade since January and that's what they get.

Dave999 2010-04-22 19:36

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Nokia, January-March 2010
Turnover: EUR 9.52 billion (+2.6%)
- Including mobiles: 6.66 billion eur (+9%)
- Including smartphones: 3.34 bn EUR (+28%)
- Including simple mobiles: 3.33 billion EUR (-6%)
Net profit: EUR 175 million (+4275%)
Sold mobiles: 107.8 million (+16%)

how can they fail to deliver PR 1.2? They can hire army with dev's. All working on PR 1.2. How can day fail with Ovi store...unbelievable.

Please donate to nokia so they can hire ppl to fix up ovi store, maps and most important of all PR 1.2.

I mean more than u already paid them for the n900 ;)

n900-jo 2010-04-22 19:38

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 623231)
The release is tomorrow according to my fake source.

according to your fake source ,, tomorrow morning or evening ? :D :D

HugoSon 2010-04-22 19:49

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 622881)
He is talking about PR 1.2 SDK ( software development kit) it was released long time ago

...if he is "talking" about - why dosn't he write it?

HellFlyer 2010-04-22 20:41

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by little_beat (Post 623143)
Actually, when Android 2.2 will be released, everyone would likely be waiting for firmware update for their devices just like here. Nexus would probably get the update first, while all the other devices-specific forums would have speculation treads just like this one.

Thats the thing! Android is found on many devices so yeah depending on operator and manufacturer it can take more time BUT here its only (1) ONE poor N900 :mad: is it that hard???

mbere 2010-04-22 21:25

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Nokia ! ! ! Give us the freaking PR1.2 Update ! ! !

Terence 2010-04-22 21:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
any news on firmware

nermaljcat 2010-04-22 21:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
If it is currently in QA, then why not release a beta to the devel repositories? That would accelerate QA significantly.

... unless there is a major issue that Nokia knows will wreak havoc in the wild ??

nosa101 2010-04-22 21:38

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Quote:

HTC have lost a customer for any future phone upgrades I do. I do not expect to buy an android phone and be left in the dust for upgrades. How can I possibly trust HTC to keep any future phones up to date if they have already shafted me on the hero. Its the classic mistake that smells of an idiotic profiteering mentality i.e. sell someone a product and then let it rot in the hopes to sell them a newer shinier version. Well heres the news flash HTC (not that they are intelligent enough to listen). After the recession people are not prepared to be burnt twice.
Quote:

Everybody been watching for this update for a mounths and .... I think we never going to see Android 2.1 on our heros. Probably HTC want to tell us buy new HTC with Android 2.1. Big shame for HTC. HTC Hero is No.1 but we cant use app. for 1.6+ . But if they dont upgrade our Android as soon as posible I think that this going to be our last HTC phones
Quote:

Peter April 22, 2010
Trouble is Mark, one update announcement from a manufacturer, does not a marketing campain make! Where as delaying a release and giving short expectations keeps thousands googling and watching and searching for HTC....see where im going with this?
I feel your pain and it makes my blood boil too. enough to want to quit the alegance and switch back to iPhone. Only reason i got the HTC Hero was the deal orange were offering while the 3G was just too damned expensive and to be honest . Compared to my old version iPhone thats now relegated to being an iPod its been far more twitchy and slow to respond to commands.
It gets its knickers in a twist sometimes and just sits there trying its hardest to close a screen down and the backlit nav keys dont back light when you need them to.

I like the storage and i like the style but there are some ergonomic querks that dont quite make it as comfortable as the iPhone.

And this delay tactics just annoys rather than raises anticipation
.
Quote:

slight hiccup? Ive been watching for this update for longer than I care to remember. This slight hiccup is about the 8th time the release date has been pushed back. Its about time the dev guys got a grip, announced November and be done with it.
I guess the grass isn't so green on the other side

bjknight 2010-04-22 21:42

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Difference is that they have identified the problem, announced an intention to fix it and set a provisional date for it.
(Though note the word "apparently" in the article)

And they have an app store that works. And devs in their thousands are writing for it.

And blah blah blah...

nosa101 2010-04-22 21:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjknight (Post 623447)
Difference is that they have identified the problem, announced an intention to fix it and set a provisional date for it.
(Though note the word "apparently" in the article)

And they have an app store that works. And devs in their thousands are writing for it.

And blah blah blah...


How long have you been waiting for pr 1,2?
Have you looked at the pr 1.2 changelog and the bug fixes it contains? If that doesn't show identification and solving of problems then i don't know what does.

Ovi Store works. It just doesn't have a lot of content. Which brings up the lack of devs problem. Well, Nokia can't exactly force devs to make the apps, can they? Maemo Extras has a lot of apps as far as i'm concerned.

fergusso 2010-04-22 21:52

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 623454)
How long have you been waiting for pr 1,2?
Have you looked at the pr 1.2 changelog and the bug fixes it contains? If that doesn't show identification and solving of problems then i don't know what does.

Ovi Store works. It just doesn't have a lot of content. Which brings up the lack of devs problem. Well, Nokia can't exactly force devs to make the apps, can they? Maemo Extras has a lot of apps as far as i'm concerned.


n900 fanboys and followers like me, let's accept the fact that we are left behind by other phone OS iphone android and windows are very well established that theyve got lots of applications ready for u to download. the waiting for firmware update and the questionable meego is just exhausting. all of us here are just hoping for Nokias promises which are meant to be broken.

bjknight 2010-04-22 22:06

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 623454)
Ovi Store works. It just doesn't have a lot of content. Which brings up the lack of devs problem. Well, Nokia can't exactly force devs to make the apps, can they?

Are you seriously not seeing the problem with that? Seriously?

Hmm...

OVI Store.
yes
Hmm..
Market for my app ideas.
Ok.
Now..
How shall I get paid for these apps? Hmm?
If only there were some sort of system where I could feel confident that if I made an app that I put a lot of time into or maybe that my company said they would like to put money into. Confident because they knew that people could give money to get the app.
Why, it'd be a little bit like a shop. A store, if you will.
But that's daft. A store is where you put stuff that's free. Like when you go to Asda. That grocery store. Where they just let you have everything for free.

Oh, I can't even be bothered keeping up this sarcastic, p-take. Just beat yourself over the head and we'll call it quits, eh fanboy?

gryedouge 2010-04-22 22:11

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
A possible indicator?

Nokia X6 gets update to 20.0.005 (from 12.0.091)

maybe the updates are per model? :rolleyes:

nosa101 2010-04-22 22:11

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjknight (Post 623474)
Are you seriously not seeing the problem with that? Seriously?

Hmm...

OVI Store.
yes
Hmm..
Market for my app ideas.
Ok.
Now..
How shall I get paid for these apps? Hmm?
If only there were some sort of system where I could feel confident that if I made an app that I put a lot of time into or maybe that my company said they would like to put money into. Confident because they knew that people could give money to get the app.
Why, it'd be a little bit like a shop. A store, if you will.
But that's daft. A store is where you put stuff that's free. Like when you go to Asda. That grocery store. Where they just let you have everything for free.

Oh, I can't even be bothered keeping up this sarcastic, p-take. Just beat yourself over the head and we'll call it quits, eh fanboy?

Call me fanboy all you want but the app store works. I can download stuff from it = in working condition

I'm so sorry you can't get paid for your absolutely wonderful apps...GTFOH.
If you said the payment system wasn't in working order, then i'd understand.

HellFlyer 2010-04-23 04:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 623485)
Call me fanboy all you want but the app store works. I can download stuff from it = in working condition

I'm so sorry you can't get paid for your absolutely wonderful apps...GTFOH.
If you said the payment system wasn't in working order, then i'd understand.

Guys dont insult each other, lets keep it civilized shall we?;)

nosa101 what bjknight was saying as I understood there are tons of problems under the hood about which regular user dont know. Developers dont trust Ovi store and are no willing to risk their time and resources for an uncertain platform.;)

There was a serious problem with Rovio's famous app Angry Birds , when the updated levels were released ( not free of course) some people where able to download it and pass Ovi payment system....

So

You cant simply say that Ovi Store is working but it doesnt have apps..... because there were/are problems with payment system, improperly updated libraries, ability to gain unauthorized access though x-terminal Qt 4.6 -4.7 etc... so the point is its not just a problem that there are no apps or no developers its more complicated and Nokia doesnt seem to be willing to solve them on time

lsolano 2010-04-23 05:01

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I'm starting to hate OMWeather...

It has fooled me twice in the last days making my update [!] sign blink...:D

cryox92 2010-04-23 05:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 623792)
I'm starting to hate OMWeather...

It has fooled me twice in the last days making my update [!] sign blink...:D

Same here :D.

harry 2010-04-23 05:43

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Brower this thread has became one of my routine everymorning!

Khertan 2010-04-23 06:12

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
The release date is announce for Android .. not the features :)

matts76 2010-04-23 06:14

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
This thread has become a regular passtime for me too, however im getting rather bored with it now.
I think ill go back to my previous passtime of masterbating,
its alot more fulfilling an i know im guaranteed a release every morning:D

salah99 2010-04-23 06:23

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matts76 (Post 623834)
This thread has become a regular passtime for me too, however im getting rather bored with it now.
I think ill go back to my previous passtime of masterbating,
its alot more fulfilling an i know im guaranteed a release every morning:D

QFT :D:confused::D

Dima202 2010-04-23 06:23

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I'm hearing a lot about this PR1.2 patch.
From what I'm seeing in official notes, there wont be Flash 10?
No ovi maps either.
So why exactly are we looking forward to this?

El Amir 2010-04-23 06:26

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dima202 (Post 623840)
I'm hearing a lot about this PR1.2 patch.
From what I'm seeing in official notes, there wont be Flash 10?
No ovi maps either.
So why exactly are we looking forward to this?

The new QT release, 4.6 I believe. Should help developers greatly ;)

kdrozd 2010-04-23 07:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
My calculation:

from 1.0 SDK alpha to PR1.1 it was something like 11-12 months
form 1.2 SDK ER (22.03.2010) to PR1.2 it will take next 11-12 months and this give us end of March 2011 :(

based on http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_developme...dmap/Fremantle timeline :)

Larswad 2010-04-23 07:39

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Amir (Post 623845)
The new QT release, 4.6 I believe. Should help developers greatly ;)

Yes, I second that! I want to use the new QT libs, preferably with MADDE (for which I haven't heard anything about latest months either...strange).

But besides that, my top annoyances are:
1. The buggy (or shall we say useless) BT implementation. Most handsfree and carkits fail with it.
2. During display dimming the sound becomes temporarily choppy. It irritates the hell out of me. How could that thing pass the (quality?) testing? :eek:

But still, I just LOVE my N900, it's the future right in my pocket. :)
Like someone said, it's not about touch-screen features or millions of apps, the N900 is about the OS and all the open community mentality that it brings.

HellFlyer 2010-04-23 07:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kdrozd (Post 623902)
My calculation:

from 1.0 SDK alpha to PR1.1 it was something like 11-12 months
form 1.2 SDK ER (22.03.2010) to PR1.2 it will take next 11-12 months and this give us end of March 2011 :(

based on http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_developme...dmap/Fremantle timeline :)

Nooooooooo!

I refuse to believe you :D:p

berty 2010-04-23 08:05

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
What a joke, I'm so glad I jumped ship and flogged off my N900.

Nokia can't even have the decency to say when the update will be out. What contempt for their customers.

Nokia won't be seeing any more of my money.

cryox92 2010-04-23 08:12

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berty (Post 623939)
What a joke, I'm so glad I jumped ship and flogged off my N900.

Nokia can't even have the decency to say when the update will be out. What contempt for their customers.

Nokia won't be seeing any more of my money.

I dont think they can give us a release date becuase if they dont make it on time, we'll be seeing even more threads like this one, and even more dissatisfaction. Im starting to doubt that 1.2 will be released, and even if it does end up being released it eont be anytime soon.

HellFlyer 2010-04-23 08:15

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Poor Chuck he has been crying all day and now he needs to use this....

Andrew_b 2010-04-23 08:17

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Don't mind me, I'm just putting my chair out to sit and watch the 2000th post go by, la-la-la, burble, burble.

Missingbyte 2010-04-23 08:21

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
this is getting beyond the joke now, i love my phone but i want it to work with google sync and have turn by turn without the extra cost!

zehjotkah 2010-04-23 08:21

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
one closer to the magical mark...

junnuvi 2010-04-23 08:22

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Yes! PR 1.2 will be relased quite soon. There is no long way to 2000th post. So it will probably be relased at latest on Monday. Good! :D

Or if we are fast enought, it it's possible it will be even relased today!


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