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bonkel 2010-06-30 19:44

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nowhere...meego 1.1 comes in october...

lifenexus 2010-06-30 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tobyax (Post 735991)
where can I download Meego 1.1 with GUI for N900

what released today is meego 1 with handset ui. the finalized version will come in october(1.1)

leetut 2010-06-30 20:01

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i keep a regular keen eye on this thread as its awesome!
looking forward to the day when it reaches the level that i can play with it!
(bit of a n00b i am!)
its getting close though!
many thanks to all the contributors in this thread for the work put in, especially my local boy dj steve! love the accent!

Luz 2010-06-30 20:03

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If you need meego info, there are a few threads developing, I would try not to steer this thread of topic, which is nitdroid... but am sure meego will be just as anticipated.. :)

gsever 2010-06-30 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by giannoug (Post 735918)
Yeah, why not? If you get MeeGo to boot with bootmenu, its fairly easy. Check this wiki page: http://wiki.nitdroid.com/index.php?title=Multiboot :)

It will require some kernel modification to triple boot all from one kernel :D

kingoddball 2010-06-30 21:20

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Meego comes with its own kenel, which (iirc) can not boot maemo.
You can modify power kernel (kexec) to use it, but Im not sure on details.

OptX 2010-06-30 22:15

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This matrix-nitroid bootscreen @ latest froyo version looks cool !! Nice work. It is getting more and more fun to use nitdroid. Keep it rocking !!

juandp77 2010-07-01 02:26

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I don't want offend anybody but i don't like at all the matrix -nitdroid bootscreen, how can I deleted?

est_cap 2010-07-01 02:26

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Sorry to ask.. but I would like to know if I have to keep the n900 in R&D mode to do this.

Reffyyyy 2010-07-01 02:27

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@est_cap

Yes it must remain activated. You can disable the flashing keyboard lights though.

est_cap 2010-07-01 02:38

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@Reffyyyy

.. tnx 4 response.
mm.. but keeping it in that mode , and starting maemo instead of android..
does maemo woek exactli as without R&D?

Reffyyyy 2010-07-01 02:41

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I've been in R&D mode for about 2-3 weeks and haven't detected any differences at all.

est_cap 2010-07-01 02:44

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mm.. somewhere i read "R&B mode is not a mode your device should run every day" or samoethinglike that..
EDIT.. I remember..
"Summarized, R&D mode is for debugging purposes, and so it's not a mode the N900 should run in everyday" in http://wiki.nitdroid.com/index.php?title=N900-install i read that

Reffyyyy 2010-07-01 02:51

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I also read that.

So far I haven't come across any problems with it at all. That's about all the information I have.

If you do decide to enable R&D mode, you must understand the risks. It is entirely possible to disable R&D mode though.

lifenexus 2010-07-01 02:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by est_cap (Post 736527)
mm.. somewhere i read "R&B mode is not a mode your device should run every day" or samoethinglike that..
EDIT.. I remember..
"Summarized, R&D mode is for debugging purposes, and so it's not a mode the N900 should run in everyday" in http://wiki.nitdroid.com/index.php?title=N900-install i read that

well one reason i can think of is, RD mode disables watchdog service, a service which reboots ur phone when it detects something has crashed. watchdog will reboot the device when u try to boot android after sometimecoz it doesnot detect maemo and thinks the phone has crashed. so we keep RD mode on to disable watchdog and use android

est_cap 2010-07-01 02:57

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exclent answer! tnx!
and one other Noob question:
I have to flash my device, right? what firmware do I get when I do it (with or without overcloking) ? I mean.. are diferent flasher "images" to get 1.2 Fw instead old ?

lifenexus 2010-07-01 03:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by est_cap (Post 736540)
exclent answer! tnx!
and one other Noob question:
I have to flash my device, right? what firmware do I get when I do it (with or without overcloking) ? I mean.. are diferent flasher "images" to get 1.2 Fw instead old ?

u dont have to flash the device atall. ur only flashing kernel. it will not change any files or data etc. what you have to do is copy android system files to memory card, flash a new kernel which will understand the android files in the memory card and you will be booting android off the sd card. it will not do anyting to maemo

est_cap 2010-07-01 03:01

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tnx for the answers!

lifenexus 2010-07-01 03:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by est_cap (Post 736545)
tnx for the answers!

ur welcome buddy :)

kingoddball 2010-07-01 05:46

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RD Mode gives you ROOT/SU access to your N900 before you could download root via HAM.

dj_steve 2010-07-01 06:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juandp77 (Post 736517)
I don't want offend anybody but i don't like at all the matrix -nitdroid bootscreen, how can I deleted?

remove the file bootanimation.zip in /system/media

kingoddball 2010-07-01 09:03

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Are you building Eclair anymore, or just now focused on Froyo?

ToJa92 2010-07-01 09:08

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Now I've made some progress with the Autoinstaller script :)

It will now check that you have over 20% battery left, and have a memory card inserted as well(not a fail-safe way, but meh). Most I have left is to check capacity of the memory card and give appropriate warnings, and also do MD5 check of files ;)

EDIT: It *should* also flash the kernel but R&D mode need to be set manually on a computer..

EDIT#2: And if giannoug's solution for R&D mode work there wont be any need for a computer :)

giannoug 2010-07-01 10:08

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I found a way to turn off R&D mode. We need to write in regular intervals on /dev/watchdog and /dev/twl4030_wdt.

Can someone check it? I'm a little less than 500km from my micro usb cable and I can't try it. I've also sent a PM to Dj_Steve.

OptX 2010-07-01 12:58

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Would be awesome if this little trick would eliminate the need for R+D

giannoug 2010-07-01 13:46

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Yes, R&D is the limit for me. I don't want to leave my device with R&D on.

DaSilva 2010-07-01 15:15

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Then you would only need to execute the AutoInstaller.sh and everything would be installed :)

btw:Which size should I select for the FAT partition with the AutoInstaller.sh and how big will be the ext3 partition?

ToJa92 2010-07-01 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 737243)
Then you would only need to execute the AutoInstaller.sh and everything would be installed :)

btw:Which size should I select for the FAT partition with the AutoInstaller.sh and how big will be the ext3 partition?

It doesn't matter which the FAT partition is(it will be available in Maemo though so you may want it to use much of your card), the ext3 partition occupies all the space that is left(I never had any issue with a large ext3 partition, but others had).

DaSilva 2010-07-01 15:24

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I would like to use only 4GB in total (I have a 8GB card). Maybe you could add a second (optional) parameter to the script for the ext3 partition!?
Would be nice!

ToJa92 2010-07-01 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 737250)
I would like to use only 4GB in total (I have a 8GB card). Maybe you could add a second (optional) parameter to the script for the ext3 partition!?
Would be nice!

Yeah I'm working on the script anyway(adding some checks, kernel flashing etc) so I'll do that too...

Descalzo 2010-07-01 15:48

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Hey in the bootup text before the NITDROID Matrix animation (which is awesome by the way) it says it's loading the drivers for the FM Radio. Is that right?

dj_steve 2010-07-01 15:56

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yea itt is but it fails at min

Siggen 2010-07-01 16:21

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@ToJa92

Will you be packing a Debian package as soon as NITdroid does not require R&D mode?

Might I suggest if your capable to make a simple graphical install/uninstall wizard, and upload the wizard program to extra-devel.


@DJ_Steve

Titan's Kernel (Enhanced Linux Kernel for Power Users) has some other great patches other than just overclocking/undervolting capabilities. Are these improvements also in your Kernel?

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 16:50

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wow... a newgrounds link to some terrible flash animation that has no relevance.

bonkel 2010-07-01 17:39

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here is a new (alternativ) bootanimation:

preview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNOvkEQ08gU

downlaod:
http://hotfile.com/dl/51843367/f89ab...ation.zip.html

weißelstone 2010-07-01 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by giannoug (Post 736854)
I found a way to turn off R&D mode. We need to write in regular intervals on /dev/watchdog and /dev/twl4030_wdt.

Can someone check it? I'm a little less than 500km from my micro usb cable and I can't try it. I've also sent a PM to Dj_Steve.

Just write anything? So a simple
Code:

echo "1" > /dev/watchdog
echo "1" > /dev/twl4030_wdt

every x seconds would be enough?

dj_steve 2010-07-01 18:00

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i was wondering that too weibelstone

giannoug 2010-07-01 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weißelstone (Post 737510)
Just write anything? So a simple
Code:

echo "1" > /dev/watchdog
echo "1" > /dev/twl4030_wdt

every x seconds would be enough?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 737548)
i was wondering that too weibelstone

If what I read is correct, then yes :) There is a daemon called "watchdog" that can do the hard work without much hassle with some extra configuration :)

http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/watchdog

Does Android has any watchdogs daemons?

dj_steve 2010-07-01 18:11

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no but setting up a simple service (nice and easy thanks to android init.rc structure) to run a permanent loop every x secs should do it - getting someone to test a simple theroy as i type :) my n900 is still out of commision (dead batt lol)

meShell 2010-07-01 18:14

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Short question (will put this to wiki)

for updating an existing froyo it is enough to extract the new tbz2-archive and overwrite everything?

if no filerights have been changed somehow I think it would be enough, so is deleting all files the usual way?

thx


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