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Not sure this really means anything to be honest. Since compact cameras have become widespread, and even more since the smartphone era, I believe that many "portable" cameras/lenses have been branded as Zeiss and as far as I know it did not necessarily mean that they benefited the quality level and control the brand built its fame on, let alone be manufactured by Zeiss themselves. I always thought these were just labels, like "Endorsed by Zeiss themselves, buy it!" rather than any real I guarantee, but it's still better than nothing as Zeiss wouldn't risk its reputation by putting their name on the worst cameras I suppose.

Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not sure at all (Chen, maybe you have experience with this?). Sorry for the misinformation if I am.

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Nokia used to be different and beautiful.

Now they are just the same and ugly.

The ID of the device IMO... Very ugly. And those 2 Android buttons printed on the bottom... :mad: No scene of industrial design.

Zeiss camera is more of a label now, AFAIK HMD does not have any R&D on camera, they are buying standard modules like we do. Perhaps put more SW effort then just put the Zeiss label on it for branding.

So "Zeiss" label on a "Nokia" phone, "Nokia" label on some ugly hardware from unknown source. The only remaining value is those two brand labels and nothing else.

And world doesn't need another Android phone...;)

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Livermorium,

because the

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I have seen that "Zeiss" label on so many crap products that I have started seeing it as a "generic term".

Shame, really.

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Nowadays it is quite common that phones, laptops and such stuff have parts like camera (or just lens), speakers etc branded by another company. A company which is specialized to create those parts. There is those Carl Zeiss optics in phones, and Bang&Olufsen laptop speakers for example.

In theory, it is of course awesome that a company gives the job for another company which has more experience in making those parts. But, even Bang&Olufsen can't squeeze a complete 9.2 hifi system inside a laptop. Even Carl Zeiss can't squeeze a 10-200mm zoom lens with F1.4 for full zoom length inside a phone. All they can do is to fill the space with something very small, which actually has nothing to do with their regular products -which they are know of. Their regular products couldn't fit to the budget also. So the only difference in final product is the name of Carl Zeiss or B&O branded on top.

I have a whitewater kayak made by a company called Liquidlogic. the handles in the kayak are branded by Black Diamond, a company which has specialized to climbing gear. Sounds awesome, but brings no extra advantage to the kayak :D

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Looking forward do see this phone ship before New Year's Eve. (Not Chinese New Year)

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Just stumbled upon this in Storeman: https://github.com/piggz/irremote

http://reho.st/preview/self/1c444b5c...1d2f34a349.jpg

This will be awesome on Chen's phone.

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Ah, nice! And it's by Piggz!

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since the moto mod is the base for this, what about that tilt angle?
this render looks fine
https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-medi...qbdwaltuz8.jpg
but then the photo
https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-medi...0nreawub1e.jpg
this looks way to vertical

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I think it will be adjustable.