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no, no, no.......
There's absolutely no common sense in whining about higher price in the future if you can buy the product now when you know that it is cheaper.

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I believe it would be worse if F(x)tec didn't announce anything, and then later suddenly increased the price without prior notice, shaihkritzer. They might not know what price they'll have to set yet, and no one can really blame them for that, but at least they warned you that the best price you can expect is now. I mean, what more can we ask?

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[QUOTE=catbus;1559341]Where from You get those numbers?

~1200 Euros?

Naw ....can't be... no ~1200 Euros..
My stock-broker insider-trading head-hunting secret source ...
told me....

https://i.postimg.cc/P5LSRQHL/photo5...7203484727.jpg

Ok ...well ...
it was my cat that told me
...Cat-O...

BUT he did have it from a reliable source..
The price isn't going to be no ~1200 Euros
More like...
~25000 Euromouseos

I am not sure what the currency conversion is ...
But he knows his foreign cuisine...er..currency

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Look the British are coming

F(x)tec Community event in New York next week, Thur 29th Aug 6-9pm. Get hands on with the Pro1. Tickets here

For those who are blocked or blocking twitter :D

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I'm afraid I'm not going anywhere any time soon, sorry to disappoint :D

About another subject you brought up:

https://i.imgur.com/BeFMzQg.jpg

I'm just like Kabouik, I sure can't wait for the Pro1, and even more so the 16 bedrooms and the 180 eyes internal space http://talk.maemo.org/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

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In English (British English at least, I don't know about North American or Australasian), we have a traditional saying: "A watched pot never boils". A lot of posts here have reminded me of this. :D Maybe it would help to find something else to do, and take your eyes off the ball for a while.... :p

Unfortunately, I won't be getting a Pro1 - my gadget budget has been blown out of the water this year, and there are only so many devices I can keep in use at any one time. It does look like a stunning piece of design and engineering though, and I have been very tempted. When one of my current devices is coming up for retirement, I'll definitely look at what F(x)tec has to offer.

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Pacman, You can always sell one or some and get this now at the pre-oder price. :D

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For those hitting F5 in this thread I found a rather unimportant italian blog post about Pro1: https://www.androidworld.it/2019/08/21/fxtec-pro1-pre-ordini-settembre-prezzo-655142/4

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We don't talk much about other OS beside sailfish here. Maemo-leste is coming alone well. But it may not be ready by the time people get the pro1. So what else to run beside android.

Well, what about fosh on top of postmark?

This little working UI/UX prototype seems promising.

https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2.../3125-1024.png

The question is will the pro1 be able to eventually run mainline? Cuz that would open up a huge world of possibilities :D

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is this really the most advanced thing Purism has to show for their Gnome Mobile OS? :D

Everything is possible with effort, its just a question of how much. I'd expect it will take some time before non-hybris operating systems are usable for ordinary folk

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Well I do think it supports dark mode already :)

But I see it as they are putting in a lot of work that will goes up stream, which will make it easier for others to follow. Then just skin the OS with what ever style you want. And then all the driver stuff.

https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-august-update/

This in many ways looks like iOS from 1st gen years. I'm just hoping more alternative are successful and stick around so we have more choices.

I hope fx pro1, pine phone, cosmo will be successfully enough hardware that the makers support as many OS as possible and a non apple google future is bright.

xman, steps off of soap box ... lol

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Really hope that number isn't spoofed. That's very impressive considering how little marketing they've done

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Any reason to doubt the correctness of that number? That 'little marketing' seems already somewhat reassuring.
The Pro^1 is a pretty unique (HWKB) product, with proven (historic) popularity - Japan!? - and huge (Android :rolleyes:) potential. Quality-wise it's upto scratch; I've not really read/seen any critic which would stop a potential buyer on that aspect.

What blew my mind is not that pre-order number but the professionalism at F(x)tec. Every modification of the Pro^1 seems to me to make the whole project more commercially sound. That in contrast to what I saw with other projects, e.g. the Fairphone - I hope the FP3 proves the contrary.

The investors behind F(x)tec know the(ir) business.

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I don't think it is spoofed... i have "marketing" this since early start that "new precious" gonna be my next phone, for about 50 people so person2person -marketing is working... I think also that everyone here have told their friends about Pro1? And have they told to their friends and others? - Geeks we are...


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Well maybe not everyone but at least Chen and i ;)
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All I can say is don't be fooled by GNOME's default theme, Adwaita. On a computer, Adwaita looks just as bland, but that also means it doesn't distract. GNOME can do a lot more visual bells and whistles than that, it just doesn't do it by default. I'm pretty sure Purism will create a theme, or use an existing one, that's a bit more visually interesting. Right now they're only showing off the functionality, not the looks.

Edit: come to think of it, it shares a sizeable amount of resemblances with the Harmattan theme.

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I don't want bells or whistles... Just great simple UI... Main thing is that everything works! -> "Oh, here we have great bells and so on... - What you asked? Bluetooth? No, it is not working... But can't You see our nice Bells!!!!!!"

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I can't wait for what kind of post flood comes when/if people get their device. Hope there comes a thread "Only positive thoughts of F(x)tec Pro1". If I would have mioney and if I would not have faith on Maemo Leste I would certainly buy that phone. And that would be only because it is the right thing to do. Think about it! Chen, a member, a HW keyboard phone with updated specs! Wow! Just wow! I would lift my hat if I would have one. And that he follows THIS thread no matter what has been in it and answers questions. Wow again! Extraordinary dedication!

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Why should it? It's not like i hang here since 2012 and make fake posts :D

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Chen is Spy... Sleeping Spy ;)

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Hope i wake up tomorrow with a Pro1 with a scandinavian keyboard under my pillow :p

EDIT: Plus multi-boot :p:D

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^
This is kind of "Prelude" to what we are waiting when Pro1 comes and example of the flood... ;)

EDIT: Plus "multipass" -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVPLqbWXdDA ;)

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Wainting for an answer from Planet Computers about my refund, so i can tell F(x)tec to take my money :p Turpa kiinni ja ota mun rahat ;)

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Fxtec already got my €€€€ so I don't have to tell them to SHUT UP AND TAKE MY (hard-earned!) MONEY!

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Hep

I apologize for the advertising, but now is a time to take more pictures to the harvest -topic... I was hoping some "beta-pictures", but maybe next month...

Pro1 comes in less than a month, so you can start breath again... Then... ;)

I'm out now... Seeya.

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I know they said shipping the second week of September but do we have an actual ship date? Clock is winding down now, but we're still nearly a month out.
Shipping second week of September, give a week to get across the pond and through customs, may be the third week or even fourth before I get it...

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Maybe Chen could write a short update about current production status ...

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Or maybe not and let him and his team focus on the release ...

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This is said to have a precise marker: Remarkable with a use case.

Have not tried it myself.

It is a tablet, not phone, with a paper feel.

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Up to today everything is all on track and under control and same as planned. I am about to have my second visit in under a week to the factory. All team members are doing our absolute best for the product. Exciting times ahead!

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Indeed. Exciting times ahead! Is it safe to say that everyone who paid until a week ago are in the first production batch?

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Feeling like taking part in a great moment of history. Really exciting.

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Appreciate the update, even if it's just that everything is going well

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Note that the payment process at fxtec.com stumbles over NoScript's XSS filter, causing the web-page for entering the payment data not to load completely.

After switching this XSS filter off (e.g., in NoScript's Options -> Advanced), paying per credit card worked fine for me.

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As the Pro1 seems to be advancing fine, with "first mass production batch" deliveries starting in the second half of September, I assume the remaining of 2019 will be used for preparing (production optimisations etc.) and producing the second mass production batch.

After that (and if all worked out well), in early 2020, there might be time for considering the next device by F(x)tec.
While it is easy to choose the route Planet Computers has taken, to slightly upgrade the existing design (exterior and interior) with the currently / meanwhile available high-end SoC (e.g. an SDM855 for a "Pro1+"), 1,5 times the RAM (what for?) and double the FLASH memory (again: what for, if the device has an SD-card slot?), I would rather like to see a true "Pro2" being slightly smaller and cheaper, while retaining the same basic design.

If this makes sense for F(x)tec (especially under commercial aspects), please consider Qualcomm's cheapest modern SoCs, which contain "big" cores (i.e., ARM A7x-based ones). Currently the SDM660 would constitute a good candidate. Pair it with 4 GB RAM and 64 GB FLASH memory (more is really superfluous; even 3 GB RAM is fully sufficient, but looks a bit "low-end" nowadays) and a ~ 5,2" display (an even smaller display makes the keyboard too small, when retaining its basic design from the Pro1; it also may be worth considering a classic 16:9 display over a 2:1 one to gain keyboard height) and the result would be the perfect "Pro2" for me.

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Haha, man I hear you olf. But come on man at least wait till this product is out :P

I want this too. But lets see how well this does first. Many company get screwed when they try to advance too quickly, and run out of money when first product sales slow down.

Plus with the trade & Brexit stuff going on, I'd rather they wait till they are stable ... and be around for 10 yrs ... vs 1 shipping and 1 promised product.

But I'm not dismissing your wishing, just trying to keep mine in perspective.

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+1
(even I would consider smaller does not need to be less, so CPU, RAM and storage might be same)
But did we not agree to wait to get Pro1 (commercially) successful?

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For the Librem that has been clarified by Purism:
The kill switches of the Librem (for the cellular modem and WiFi chip; the cameras are not mentioned!) are located under the back cover and only to be toggled, when the device is completely off.
Hence this rather constitutes a permanent, but reversible hardware disablement, but nothing alike software switches for such components, which can be toggled any time.

While Librem's design is well feasible to engineer (in terms of hard- and software, if an external modem is utilised), it is hardly usable for disabling camera or modem temporarily.

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Well, that must be less to achieve a smaller size, less power (necessary due to a smaller battery) and costs.

Todays high-end smartphones come with yesterday's PC-specs (8 cores+, 8 GB RAM, hundreds of GB FLASH) to achieve phenomenal benchmark numbers. But as with PCs, a device with half of these resources is absolutely sufficient for all general tasks.
But there is a price to pay for these superfluous resources: Primarily parts costs and power (which in turn needs more space for proper cooling, a larger battery etc.)

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I am one of those who preordered motomod and as we know only a few of us got a keyboard mod, others had an option of refund or apply a discount of Pro1 in a later phase.

So if all preorders will receive a phone, that is more than the motomod project did.

As this project is completely in their hands, I hope they will push this project farther and finally the device will be available to wide public. I also hope there are enough devices ordered and it will enough for long-term survive of them.

However, later batches may take some time to be available but they said they are trying to lowering this time...

I am also hope they will announce dates and prices when it is possible and even sharing us if there is an ongoing process...

Yes, I don't feel it is necessary to play resource-hungry games on a device which is primarily a phone... The keyboard is a really big plus as I hate typing long texts on a touch screen not speaking about the space of virtual keyboards use. However, for terminal application, it makes the phone useful even for additional things. :)

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I may be totally wrong (as I have no experience and even less interest in being acquainted with how Android works, though I'm still somewhat curious), but the way I understand it: doesn't having an open bootloader mean there's no need to root the device ?

Or is it the OS that is getting rooted ?