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-   -   Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=27242)

yerga 2009-03-03 18:30
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 268552)
there's one of a file chooser dialog in one of the pre-alphas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--zN8RmXOcI

seeing this, i hope there'll be at least whiz or bang added to the final product :D
In defence of Fremantle, I have to say I wasn't pressing the mouse very trusting, and in a device the behaviour is better than seen in the video.
As Stskeeps says, it's running in Mer, so the new Hildon widgets can be tested with an device.
Also, other Fremantle widgets can be seen in this screenshots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yerga/s...7612365187767/
or here (are the same): http://share.ovi.com/channel/yerga.Hildonwidgets
Though, they are from the first alpha (without theming), and they could have changed in the updates.

lcuk 2009-03-03 18:58
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hns (Post 268549)
I found a workaround: Add the following line to the "Device" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
...
Quote:
Originally Posted by bijjal (Post 268583)
It did not work for me.. I have tried with just the AccelMethod option and also the ones in the workaround link. Is there something more that I have missed?
me neither, extremely frustrating.

benny1967 2009-03-03 19:18
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yerga (Post 268629)
In defence of Fremantle, I have to say I wasn't pressing the mouse very trusting, and in a device the behaviour is better than seen in the video.
Oh... that. I didn't refer to the kinetic scrolling (couldn't care less). It was the overall clumsiness and looks of the thing.

And, again: The original point was answering the question if what we're seeing from the UI in this alpha is (close to) the final UI. My bet was "no", because the reason given for not offering Maemo5 to N8x0-owners was "the revamped UI relying on graphics acceleration" (see here). Now because we see nothing that relies on graphics acceleration so far (and Stskeeps tells us it runs fine under Mer), either they dropped the idea of a UI relying on graphics acceleration (which would be a good thing, as it would bring Maemo5 to my N800) or, more likely, we haven't seen the real thing yet.

hns 2009-03-03 19:32
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 268638)
me neither, extremely frustrating.
*Sigh* Now it's back to very slow for me, too, after working fluidly this afternoon. Didn't change anything, and haven't been taking any drugs. Very mysterious. At least now I know how it's *supposed* to work.

Stskeeps 2009-03-03 19:34
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 268644)
Now because we see nothing that relies on graphics acceleration so far (and Stskeeps tells us it runs fine under Mer), either they dropped the idea of a UI relying on graphics acceleration (which would be a good thing, as it would bring Maemo5 to my N800) or, more likely, we haven't seen the real thing yet.
Let me just clarify what I meant - libhildonfm2 + libhildon from fremantle works fine, and i have seen no use (yet) of GL acceleration in these. There might also be a performance benefit of having PVR2D acceleration in Xorg with regards to kinetic scrolling etc.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle says it quite clearly what clutter is used for:

Quote:
Fremantle introduces a new UI framework which uses Clutter OpenGL library. It provides the following functionality:
* Window manager
* Task Launcher
* Task switcher
* Home view
* Status menu and status area
* New Hildon notification API for handling desktop notifications.

allnameswereout 2009-03-03 19:34
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bijjal (Post 268583)
It did not work for me.. I have tried with just the AccelMethod option and also the ones in the workaround link. Is there something more that I have missed?
Your AperTexSize has to be accurate though.

Did you restart X?

This works for me:

Quote:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "intel"
Option "AperTexSize" "262144"
Option "XVideo" "1"
Option "XaaNoPixmapCache"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
Option "DRI" "true"
Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
EndSection
Now its smooth again :)

yerga 2009-03-03 19:37
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 268644)
Oh... that. I didn't refer to the kinetic scrolling (couldn't care less). It was the overall clumsiness and looks of the thing.

And, again: The original point was answering the question if what we're seeing from the UI in this alpha is (close to) the final UI. My bet was "no", because the reason given for not offering Maemo5 to N8x0-owners was "the revamped UI relying on graphics acceleration" (see here). Now because we see nothing that relies on graphics acceleration so far (and Stskeeps tells us it runs fine under Mer), either they dropped the idea of a UI relying on graphics acceleration (which would be a good thing, as it would bring Maemo5 to my N800) or, more likely, we haven't seen the real thing yet.
Well, the new hildon-desktop we are seeing in the picture of the announcement is based in clutter and libmatchbox2 (what depends on clutter too).
So I imagine it's relying in graphics acceleration.

yerga 2009-03-03 19:41
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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And here the next SharePy version running in Fremantle.
It's running in plain gtk without hildon and looks fine anyway, except the images in the treeview are with 'bad' colours.

qgil 2009-03-03 20:46
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
As a comment aside, it's a bit weird that this thread hasn't been taken to the home. I wonder if Reggie & Roger are aware?

Engadget has picked the news: http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/03/m...-fans-rejoice/

pelago 2009-03-03 20:59
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 268554)
It's a little bit complicated to use... like you have to scroll all the way up again if you find that the file you're looking for is not in the currently selected directory, but in one of its sub-folders. a good chooser would let you select directories from an additinal tree on the left. (there's a very good reson why file choosers normally have two or even more lists to select directories, files, recently used... blabla). in this case obviously form didn't follow function, but was dictated other factors.
I like the look of the single column chooser, and would like to see something similar for a file manager (as long as there is a way of copying to other folders somehow). I find that each column in the current 2-column view on Maemo 4.1 a bit too narrow so that I cannot read an entire file or folder name.


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