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Jaffa 2009-05-14 01:55

Re: Moderators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 287265)
Jaffa has a point; council members (and Quim) as super moderators can theoretically change things as they see fit and eliminate dissenting opinions at will. What if a troublemaker starts claiming that the moderators are deleting or modifying his posts? Even if not true, it will create a storm of controversy.

Indeed, I think a lot of the ill-will recently blowing around the forum is because people have been confusing Quim spending a lot of his spare time as a dedicated and enthusiastic Maemo advocate which Quim in his official Nokia capacity.

In my mind, it's simple to distinguish the type of Nokia employee who's so passionate about Maemo that even if they left Nokia's employment they'd still be using the tablet, posting here and helping users and those who are doing 9-to-5 jobs to pay the rent. I don't think we see any of the latter here, though :-)

Texrat 2009-05-14 04:08

Re: Moderators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerS (Post 285715)
What Roger S has done is started 401 discussions about NIT/Maemo topics.

It might be interesting to calculate not just posts per day but the ratio of threads started to posts. After all, starting a topic is pro-active not reactive and says something about contributing to a forum rather than just policing it or chiming in on what someone else has said.

(Well, maemo.org only shows Roger S as having begun 118 threads, but as he is — to put it politely — more interested in his writing than anyone else is, he happens to have a copy of each post he made asking a question or offering an opinion or sharing a fact where no one else had, and 401 threads have indeed begun with him piping up first.)

And as a, well, disproportionate number of his sentiments have been prominently placed at itT, perhaps Roger S feels conflicted about having more than his share in the say of things and treads lightly upon on our new community commons.

Though as for that, I expect Roger S would get more than his toes wet if he weren't still looking for work. He's the plunging type I imagine.

Roger, I cannot express enough my appreciation for your contributions. Not just here, but your taking the time to comment on my blog also really meant a lot. I get very few comments so they are precious. :D

I hope you and I both get hired VERY soon.

...oh and Tim S too if he's still looking!

totololo 2009-05-14 06:45

Re: Moderators
 
Hi guys, just to tell you how important is moderation for the quality and interest of forums. I saw some forums lacking of moderation ... and the result was very disappointing, because most of the topics were polluted by stupid wars between members who had visibly nothig better to do ... and finally members became less interested and left.

So, thank you for keeping Maemo forums healhy and clean !!!

lardman 2009-05-14 12:23

Re: Moderators
 
Can we edit tags? And more importantly, can we see who has added a given tag to a thread?

timsamoff 2009-05-14 13:50

Re: Moderators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lardman (Post 287411)
Can we edit tags? And more importantly, can we see who has added a given tag to a thread?

As you can see, we began discussing it here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=53

...but, it really should be here (or a completely new thread)? Anyway...

Reggie: Can you answer this for us?

Thanks!
Tim

lardman 2009-05-14 16:07

Re: Moderators
 
I thought I'd seen it somewhere, sorry for not posting in the right place! :)

timsamoff 2009-05-14 16:10

Re: Moderators
 
Well, no, I think this is a better place! :)

Tim

Reggie 2009-05-14 18:50

Re: Moderators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lardman (Post 287411)
Can we edit tags? And more importantly, can we see who has added a given tag to a thread?

Right now, everyone (active members) can edit create tags but only mods and admins can delete them. I think this should be changed.

Who do you think should have rights to add tags? I would think it should only be voluntary and only to a selected group.

The next question I guess is, how can someone apply to be part of the tagging group? I can create a publicly 'joinable' group so members can add themselves voluntarily to the group and immediately get tag rights. Good idea?

With regards to finding out who created the tag, those with edit tag rights can edit the tags and can see who created them by hovering their cursor the specific tag.

qgil 2009-05-14 19:03

Re: Moderators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 287302)
Indeed, I think a lot of the ill-will recently blowing around the forum is because people have been confusing Quim spending a lot of his spare time as a dedicated and enthusiastic Maemo advocate which Quim in his official Nokia capacity.

I agree and I had commented the same thing in #maemo in one of those 'dark' evenings.

There is some logic in the perception that there is something wrong or at least suspicious when the same guy that is speaking on behalf of that company is also this community peer you can just discuss with. I don't agree with the logic but I understand it.

Wearing a 'SuperModerator' shirt in tmo doesn't help. Having moderator permissions doesn't help. If someone thinks that Nokia has intentions to control these forums, having extra-powers in them doesn't help.

For these reasons I will keep participating here because is fun, but I will do it as a plain registered user. At some point I don't even feel comfortable moving threads and intervening in other minor things, because maybe someone feels that...

My main goal when I requested moderator permissions was to tidy up a bit this garden and prepare for the newcomers to arrive. The goal is not complete but it's in a good way, and the trend is good. A lot of the work needed doesn't require moderator permissions (as penguinbait and qole are demonstrating) so I will keep contributing with bits and pieces, as usual.

I have tried to revoke my moderator permissions but I can't do it or I can't find out. Reggie, please when you have the time. Thanks!

Reggie 2009-05-14 19:09

Re: Moderators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 287569)
I have tried to revoke my moderator permissions but I can't do it or I can't find out. Reggie, please when you have the time. Thanks!

Revoked. Thanks for all the help Quim!


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