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mikec 2009-10-31 21:52
Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cb474 (Post 362632)
Then how do you explain that the N97 has all of the same internal hardware features, plus a more complex sliding mechanism and a larger battery, and is 2mm thinner and has 20% less volume? (And the N97-mini is even smaller still with almost all of the same features and is 4mm thinner.) Does the extra 24 Gb of memory, the infrared port, and the stylus, even with a smaller battery, really require 20% more volume?

I'm not saying the N900 isn't well engineered in terms of durability and usability. I'm just suggesting that Nokia may not have been making their biggest effort to make the N900 as small/thin as possible. Once again, as I said above, I read that the N900 was originally conceived more as a developer's platform than a consumer device, so why expend a lot of effort and cost on engineering the slickest/smallest physical design?
The N97 is in no way comparable. Much lower res screen and lower performance processor no?

Mike C

MrGrim 2009-10-31 21:52
Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cb474 (Post 362632)
Then how do you explain that the N97 has all of the same internal hardware features, plus a more complex sliding mechanism and a larger battery, and is 2mm thinner and has 20% less volume? (And the N97-mini is even smaller still with almost all of the same features and is 4mm thinner.) Does the extra 24 Gb of memory, the infrared port, and the stylus, even with a smaller battery, really require 20% more volume?
Nope. I guess it's the A8 Cortex system instead of the ARM11. IIRC, it's bigger

r0eladn 2009-10-31 21:53
Re: N900 Thickness
 
gotta say sorry for not reading the entire thread.

just wanted to add that the thickness of this device makes it into a real nerd-device.

i'd rather not see the camera and kickstand and see it drop 5-8mm in FATNESS if that would be possible. although on the other hand i have to say that i did see a very nice video captured by the n900. just hope it can record in mpeg not 3gp the converting shouldnt be a users problem in my oppinion.

i'm buying it myself nonetheless just my 2 cents.

GeneralAntilles 2009-10-31 21:58
Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by r0eladn (Post 362642)
just wanted to add that the thickness of this device makes it into a real nerd-device.
Funny, none of the normally people I've shown it to has complained about the thickness.

mikec 2009-10-31 21:58
Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by r0eladn (Post 362642)
gotta say sorry for not reading the entire thread.

just wanted to add that the thickness of this device makes it into a real nerd-device.

i'd rather not see the camera and kickstand and see it drop 5-8mm in FATNESS if that would be possible. although on the other hand i have to say that i did see a very nice video captured by the n900. just hope it can record in mpeg not 3gp the converting shouldnt be a users problem in my oppinion.

i'm buying it myself nonetheless just my 2 cents.
Thats one of these then

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...highlight=nerd

The thread was originally how come the Droid is so much thinner, and the reason is its an apple and the N900 is an orange if you see what I mean

Mike C

RevdKathy 2009-10-31 22:08
Re: N900 Thickness
 
Is it only nerds who want decent cameras? What do nerds have to photograph?

I know the world is obsessed with ultra-slim in women, but when it cat-walk anorexic become the essential for phones?

sk299 2009-10-31 22:13
Re: N900 Thickness
 
I know this may not necessarily be the case here but and i cant remember the exact example but one of the proto engine management systems i used to work with was recalled and redesigned and it came back bigger.

They said that it grew because although the all of the components were the same, the board was redesigned to allow for a more logical signal flow and this actually improved the performance of the device.

This may be completely irrelivent but it this example just came to mind when i read this thread. Only speculating but perhaps something simular is being implamented to maybe reduce noise between components and increase efficency.

r0eladn 2009-10-31 22:24
Re: N900 Thickness
 
@mikec

hmm i don't see what you mean.

for the record, i definetly fit into the nerd category.

intelligence is there, but i stick it all in my obsession, which is a dead-ending psychological spiral of social ineptitude.
so that must mean that i definetly am a nerd.


@revdkathy

when THE moment is there, being able to capture it. (the= undefined)

Jack6428 2009-10-31 23:23
Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 362223)
Speaking as somebody who actually has access to a device, removing the stylus would not have provided enough room for the BP-4L. :)
Exactly. I would miss the stylus. Itīs good to have it included, despite the fact the screen is very sensitive. If it were thicker, then maybe it would make a difference, but not when it is long and thin.

GeraldKo 2009-10-31 23:47
Re: N900 Thickness
 
As far as what's in the N900 and what isn't -- as opposed to whether a smaller package could have been engineered to contain the same features at equal quality -- this is really the same discussion as the many we had pre-announcement of the N900. Some people want to do away with the stylus, some want more battery capacity, I would gladly dump the camera and speakers to make a smaller and lighter package, many of us wish Nokia had used a 4.1"+ screen, etc.

Hopefully, in the future, there will be more concurrent Maemo devices and we'll each get variations closer to what we want.


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