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christexaport 2009-11-22 09:27

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 384971)
Chris is the king of that... he really only has 26 posts :p

I laughed out loud at that, seriously! ROFL! :p
My workflow makes me do that. I may be reading from 6 pages back, and plus my mind races sometimes. Stupid medication wears down at night...

Now back on topic, why is everyone acting like Facebook is great, and all other networks suck? This is just like the iPhone's great, Nokia/RIM/Samsung/SE suck. Not making sense. Since when is 200 million users irrelevant? Its bigger than Twitter, people! Bigger than LinkedIn. Bigger than Orkut. Bigger than Beebo. And I'd like to see all of these supported, too.This attitude is how the iPhone and Facebook grew. We need choices. Or are you saying eff MySpace, go to Facebook?

Coca Cola is the shizznit, but is Pepsi irrelevant!? BET is the bomb, but MTV is last year?! Toyota is a nonfactor now that they've been passed by Volkswagen/Audi/Porsche?! Of course not. Social networks are all important. Any that have hundreds of millions of users are important. Tunnel vision is stupid, stupid, stupid. There are a large portion of the world's citizens on social networks. Most aren't using Facebook. Keep that in mind. MySpace and Orkut are also big, and have a unique focus to keep them relevant.

RevdKathy 2009-11-22 09:31

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
You forgot to mention Tumblr!

*Hopes that if she keeps mentioning Tumblr someone will get the idea...*

christexaport 2009-11-22 09:38

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
How about a universal widget that supports all of the major social networks? Let it show a profile photo, status updates, inbox, friend requests, comments, friend list, media streams, and photos. We could start with Facebook and MySpace, the largest social networks in the world, and add Orkut and 51.com and others over time.

(And please don't say Orkut and 51 are irrelevant, too. Do the research and check the numbers first.)

christexaport 2009-11-22 09:39

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
I give up on this one. I'm working with the MySpace developers on my own, now. Can't get the Maemo.org butts to move, so I'll go with the MySpace devs. They were immediately open to discuss this with me. Wish my own community was like that...

christexaport 2009-11-22 09:45

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 384963)
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=facebook.com&

http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=m...eekly_img&sa=N

http://grapher.compete.com/myspace.c...com_uv_310.png

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...k-bebo-twitter

Just sayin'. I'm 22 for the record, and I haven't accessed or used myspace for around 2.5 years now.

Back to the topic, if someone wants to make this, all the power to them, but as a developer myself, I have no incentive to.

Look closely at those numbers. MySpace has page views in the dozens of millions, and membership in the hundreds of millions. That another is bigger doesn't mean the others are irrelevant. Developers need to learn that you can't just follow number 1. Everyone is doing that anyway. Who's serving number 2? Whoever does will be famous, because everyone will be using the only app available. Most musicians keep a laptop near, so mobile apps aren't something they'll really benefit from like I will. But the normal users and audiences use mobiles, and as long as you ignore the content creators, the people the Nseries is made for, you allow our audience to be siphoned off to Facebook for lack of service.

christexaport 2009-11-22 09:47

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
I'm all about Tumblr, too. My friend DaniB, one of the top photographers in Germany, is big on Tumblr, and I am too. Take my vote for Tumblr, too, Kathy.

RevdKathy 2009-11-22 09:50

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 385907)
How about a universal widget that supports all of the major social networks? Let it show a profile photo, status updates, inbox, friend requests, comments, friend list, media streams, and photos. We could start with Facebook and MySpace, the largest social networks in the world, and add Orkut and 51.com and others over time.

(And please don't say Orkut and 51 are irrelevant, too. Do the research and check the numbers first.)

What I want is something that will publish to Tumblr quickly and easily. I'm hoping pixelpipe will cover photos, but as Tumblr queues RSS, it may take ages to actually feed.

Fargus 2009-11-22 09:56

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 385907)
How about a universal widget that supports all of the major social networks? Let it show a profile photo, status updates, inbox, friend requests, comments, friend list, media streams, and photos. We could start with Facebook and MySpace, the largest social networks in the world, and add Orkut and 51.com and others over time.

(And please don't say Orkut and 51 are irrelevant, too. Do the research and check the numbers first.)

Chris, this is something along the lines of what I was thinking. Nokia has done a lovely job of integrating things with IM in the main OS so as a Dev I would think it sensible to simply extend the width on this for other environments. Telepathy has done this for IM and VOIP so maybe it's time to sort out the generic functionality for all social network interactions and make facebook/myspace/tumblr simply another protocol choice. I'm sure people use multiple sites so why not just tag contacts the same as you would email providers or telephony provider.

Thoughts from OP please?

If this is what people want then raise the Brainstorm so things can get started. If you want the solution the start the ball rolling by creating the brainstorm.

zerojay 2009-11-23 04:16

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 385900)
I laughed out loud at that, seriously! ROFL! :p
My workflow makes me do that. I may be reading from 6 pages back, and plus my mind races sometimes. Stupid medication wears down at night...

Now back on topic, why is everyone acting like Facebook is great, and all other networks suck? This is just like the iPhone's great, Nokia/RIM/Samsung/SE suck. Not making sense. Since when is 200 million users irrelevant? Its bigger than Twitter, people! Bigger than LinkedIn. Bigger than Orkut. Bigger than Beebo. And I'd like to see all of these supported, too.This attitude is how the iPhone and Facebook grew. We need choices. Or are you saying eff MySpace, go to Facebook?

Coca Cola is the shizznit, but is Pepsi irrelevant!? BET is the bomb, but MTV is last year?! Toyota is a nonfactor now that they've been passed by Volkswagen/Audi/Porsche?! Of course not. Social networks are all important. Any that have hundreds of millions of users are important. Tunnel vision is stupid, stupid, stupid. There are a large portion of the world's citizens on social networks. Most aren't using Facebook. Keep that in mind. MySpace and Orkut are also big, and have a unique focus to keep them relevant.

I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say it until you finally understand. No one is saying "Myspace sucks, so we shouldn't do anything for it". I'm saying that most of the people developing aren't interested in Myspace because they no longer use it themselves. And if you no longer use it yourself, why should you spend your free time working on something for it?

Facebook is the place right now. It's the critical mass place to go and it has the most mindshare. That's why we're seeing Facebook having widgets out of the box on the N900. Hell, even the video ads for the N810 talked about Facebook (and ignored Myspace).

As I've told you several times before... if you want Myspace, round up some Maemo developers who are also interested in making stuff for it. Become a focal point to push what you want forward instead of complaining like Maemo developers owe you something. Be the change you want to see. All the graphs in the world aren't going to help get an app or integration to happen if you can't find the people interested in doing the code for you, whomever that would be.

hypnotik 2009-11-23 04:19

Re: Where's the MySpace support??
 
This is all you need to know. Made me LOL:

http://www.patrickmoberg.com/internet-vices/


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