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slender 2010-01-25 20:31

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Ok. Attached pictures show why I would like to hear your detailed documentation about how I can reproduce this at ANY HOME.

Right now its possible to make haze just with your own hand or other obstacle that is close to flash. This COULD be user error than can happen really easily (ok..when something might happen really easily it should be taken care on blueprints).

I agree that picture quality is not always what you would expect from this camera. Especially blue tint and green.

joshua.maverick 2010-01-25 20:43

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Originally Posted by Bec (Post 493365)
Please try covering the blue border that faces the camera with a permanent marker.
I did and it helped.

Before:
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1264403377
After:
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1264403386

There still is some tint but at least it's not blue.

Can I include you i the letter?

ossipena 2010-01-25 20:52

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Originally Posted by Tiptronic (Post 492938)
Its just unbelievable!:mad:

I just took 200 pictures at a wedding and I'm too embarrased to mail the pictures around, because 90% of them suck!!!
I'm so pissed off :mad: Its unbelievable because the lighting was set up by an experienced pro cameraman, if thats not good enough, you can't call this a camera!

why in heavens name did you use n900s flash in that situation?!!?!?!?

i am sorry, but you deserved it...

vyper1 2010-01-25 20:55

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You get my vote. I get the issue too, you also do not get it all the time and it happens in differing low light conditions when flash is used. I wouldn't say it was caused just by the blue border though as I took all my pics landscape and the haze is always across the top which suggests to me light reflecting back off the chrome bezel. Although it does seem more prominent on the right of the image. To all the people that do not get the issue then what can I say apart from, aren't you the lucky ones, just because your unit doesn't suffer from the haze doesn't mean other units aren't defective in some small way.
Attached worse example I've currently got on my phone. Taken in really low light, haze is clearly visible.

Bec 2010-01-25 21:04

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I guess, but I don't think that such an easy solution will convince them.
This is an example of how it should look correctly taken from the level 3 and 4 service manual (N900_RX-51_SM_L3_4.pdf).

It seems a knows issue, less the blueish tint that's quite easy to fix.
Feel free to use them as you see fit.

Laughingstok 2010-01-25 21:04

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I've had some images very clear and others hazy. Hazy images are in lower light.

ossipena 2010-01-25 21:09

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I'd say that "the haze" is plain flare. so light enters somewhere from the sides to the lens. I can reproduce it very easily with no flash etc with my 14mm dslr objective
http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/37/96637/1/7...14mm35MD_2.jpg
its harder to try not to make it flare

http://www.completedigitalphotograph...m/thtSmall.jpg
(see center top of image)


for those who have the problem: how is your camera module positioned? mine is as left as it can be when looked from back. (so that the bigger holes edges dont barely overlap)

Matthaus 2010-01-25 21:13

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I have the issue too, confirmed by the fact I have taken the same photo twice with and with out and cover on numerous times to replicate it.

Bec 2010-01-25 21:24

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 494343)
light enters somewhere from the sides to the lens.

Well I think the issues are caused by the blue border of the camera cover that causes reflection in certain lighting conditions (low light and flash). Drawing a simple line with a marker, in my opinion, fixes this.

b666m 2010-01-25 21:24

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here are my pics... top -> with cover... bottom -> without cover:
(i didn't move myself and tried to take the same area ^^)
(edit: i had my fingers only on the display side)


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