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groeit 2010-02-17 00:31

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by stopgap (Post 531078)
Nokia have not really ever given cast iron assurances the N900 will ever be finished. Sure there've been a number of firmware updates so far but everything in the future is left to rumour, speculation and extrapolation by end-users. Nokia need to stop the marketing double-talk and just level with their customers.

A prime example is the fact that even as I write this I have no idea when the firmware update will come for my UK Vodafone N900, nor why when the rest of the world already seem to have it we don't. Nokia could and should be better than this... the IS a reason why Apple have done so well... they understand their market and how to communicate with it (/whip it into a frenzy)!

That's exactly my point.. sad but true; especially now with Intel on board, and they also have history of 'cost effective' solutions. Killing anything that was there, and I wouldnt be surprised that marmo6 device will be marketed as the FIRST MULTI TASKING one. ;-)

SirMuttley 2010-02-17 00:38

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
Please can you add to the letter that I'm very unhappy that Symbian S60 5th Edition doesn't work on my N95 and could they please promise me that the N97 will be supported by Symbian^3.

Oh and one last thing, I'd also like the moon on a stick if that's possible ;)

Crashdamage 2010-02-17 00:50

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Originally Posted by groeit (Post 530057)
@crashdamage - Neither his blog or nokia people on 3GSM said that n900 will support MeeGo.

So what if the N900 doesn't get Maemo 6/MeeGo? Might be nice but not critical at all. We have been assured the N900/Maemo 5 will support most Maemo 6/MeeGo applications. That's clearly a fact now, not just someone's babbling. That alone assures me that my N900 will have a long and productive life - with or without Maemo 6/MeeGo.

And yes, we've been told that N900 owners will not be forgotten. I'll take him at his blogged-from-his-own-N900 word. I'm not gonna call Jaaski a liar until I see otherwise - are you?

Really, I see something like 90% upside against 10% downside in this whole MeeGo thing. The -10% being mostly the name. I'm still having a hard time with MeeGo...

stopgap 2010-02-17 00:53

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by SirMuttley (Post 531106)
Please can you add to the letter that I'm very unhappy that Symbian S60 5th Edition doesn't work on my N95 and could they please promise me that the N97 will be supported by Symbian^3.

Oh and one last thing, I'd also like the moon on a stick if that's possible ;)

Really mature. That's totally not the point - the phone costs more than a decent computer AND a netbook, it SHOULD be supported and upgraded as other phones and computers have been and will be. Nokia have a track record of NOT even doing a proper job of one complete and mature iteration of the OS a device is first shipped with... I'd even settle for just that frankly.

To clarify, I love the N900 and just hope Nokia will let it be all that I HAVE PAID FOR AND SHOULD REASONABLY BE EXPECTING IT TO BE. The price tag warants years of support and upgrades!

webmok 2010-02-17 00:54

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 529988)
Even though you changed it, you're still making an utterly baseless claim. Stop fearmongering and making "Letters to Nokia" when you have zero backing for your statements.

I welcome you to prove your point, however.

The **** you mean by that?

groeit 2010-02-17 00:57

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
@Crashdamage we we're assured that Maemo software will run MeeGo software, not the other way around.

And I second stopgag that I love n900, and hope there wont be MeeGo device released in the same stage that n900 was.

SirMuttley 2010-02-17 01:03

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by stopgap (Post 531125)
Really mature. That's totally not the point - the phone costs more than a decent computer AND a netbook, it SHOULD be supported and upgraded as other phones and computers have been and will be. Nokia have a track record of NOT even doing a proper job of one complete and mature iteration of the OS a device is first shipped with... I'd even settle for just that frankly.

To clarify, I love the N900 and just hope Nokia will let it be all that I HAVE PAID FOR AND SHOULD REASONABLY BE EXPECTING IT TO BE. The price tag warants years of support and upgrades!

Sorry if my sarcasm was too low brow for you. Perhaps I should include a "mature" argument for those who aren't just throwing their toys out of their prams.

I bought my N95 in Summer 2007, in Dec 2008 nokia was still releasing firmware updates. A whole year and a half after the phone was originally released.

The updates didn't include a new version of the OS but included fixes and even new features for the phone.

At no point has Nokia said Maemo 6 would be available for the N900, so why are people suddenly acting like they did? Why are people also acting like this announcement of MeeGo means that Nokia will stop supporting the N900? They were busy working on new versions of Symbian whilst they were still supporting my N95 why can't it work that way with the N900?

Personally I preferred the way I said it first time.

groeit 2010-02-17 01:06

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@sirmuttley
1) n95 was an s60, so were all other nokia 'smartphones' ; what would you expect the upgrade to be?
2) Nokia didnt say maemo 6 will be available on n900, but they didnt say they'll release it half a year after maemo5. Give me one and a half year support and upgrades on a well working device (like n95) and then we'll talk.
It stinks like 'some' operating system (for desktops; developed by a huge company, betas we're available, people bought them, waited for updates, then system was cancelled and they made a OS X copy instead) were left half done, and company moved to the next one.

Crashdamage 2010-02-17 01:15

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by groeit (Post 531132)
@Crashdamage we we're assured that Maemo software will run MeeGo software, not the other way around.

Did some editing to that post to make what I meant perfectly clear...

wmarone 2010-02-17 01:18

Re: Letter to Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by groeit (Post 531152)
Give me one and a half year support and upgrades on a well working device (like n95) and then we'll talk.

Indeed, give them that. You've already basically declared that this Will Not Happen.


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