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I mostly used the N900 as a regular phone until today. My phone needed a reflash, so I figured once I backed everything out I should try a couple of things I've been postponing for a while.

First I installed titan's custom kernel and overclocked it to 700Mhz with the XLV profile. Not a huge performance increase, but for some reason it was noticeable. It was still stable at 850Mhz, but since I'm planning on keeping the N900 for a while, I decided to play it safe.

Then I installed the SSH daemon and client, and connected to my N900 from my laptop through wifi. I used apt-get to install a few CLI apps, like bash 3 and midnight commander.

Although I've owned the N900 for half a year now, I am absolutely, completely sold on it again. Whatever phone will replace it will have to offer similar freedom.

I am NEVER going back to Symbian, with its stupid signed apps and clunky ancient UI. I am not going to iOS either, because I hate the way Apple controls everything unless you jailbreak their iGadgets. There are two options for the future. Meego or Android...

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It makes me sad to see ppl not actually understand the strengths of Symbian and the needs of others that don't have the financial ability or actually want to own a smart phone.

For starters Symbian is a proven technology. It is mature, and very suited to what it is designed for.

Secondly that 40% of the market that Nokia shifts to, buy low end phones because that is what they can afford. Did you see the reports about the sales of the C3?

http://thenokiablog.com/2010/08/10/n...ietnam-launch/

http://thenokiablog.com/2010/06/07/nokia-c3-indonesia/

Apart from Bada I can't think of a mobile phone OS that can sit happily on low end phones and still provide higher end functionality.

Finally you have people who rely on their phone for their business. One of the main advantages of Symbian is that the buggers keep going even if you have it hooked up to exchange with a contant connection. I can't afford to have my phone go down on me, so I can't afford to not have a phone that isn't actually designed around battery life.

Therefore I personally think Nokia hold onto Symbian because they are not short sighted and blinded by the latest fad where people are willing to compromise real functionality over what essentially are expensive toys.

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Are N8 and N900 comparable? Really? Besides HW.

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Stop dissing Symbian. An OS is more than eyecandy. It beats N900 for bare phone functionality and is more fit for purpose than its rivals. Read the specs on symbian.org, get educated for a change !

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Don't think I'll be adopting the N8.
I'm enjoying the total freedom that my N900 is giving me.
1 of the big features that swung me to the N900 from the N95-8GB was the none branding of the O/S.
I got sick of the "No you can't use that on your phone" and the restrictions that providers use to cripple their devices, and all the "No you can't have the latest firmware, because WE don't think you need it".

It's a good O/S for mobile. very versatile, and I liked some of the apps that were made for it, and Nokia's acquisition of the Kastor UI breathed new life into it. Just see what making it open source does for it.

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I don't think i'd ever touch another Nokia....

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Right, if it's made by Nokia, I've learned my lesson to stay away.

Symbian isn't eye-candy (notice the hyphen for correct English grammar) and it barely beats an old desktop AT&T Princess telephone from circa 1990.

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Right on bro! I've own the so called "Flag Ship Phone," the "N97." Crap garbage! If that OS or "Symbian" is any indication of what the future will hold..., I'll pass! "Meego" looks interesting and "Android" is a OS that finally "Honors" the brand or term "Smart Phone!"

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Was goingt to buy a C6 as an extra phone but after playing around with the Phone / OS for about 1 hours was so disapointed by the os that I would not consider any symbian again. Bought a HTC wildfire instad (same cheep price and got to use Android)

PS: Would pick the N900 over the HTC Wildfire every time.

Markus

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Proven and mature? In some ways yes, I guess, but I don't think any firmware of Nokia Symbian phones was exactly known for their maturity when the phones first hit the shelves. AFAIK adapting Symbian to even slightly different hardware is hell, which must be why they manage to make every new phone more unstable than a botched win95 installation on a bad day. Whether or not it is the fault of the OS itself (sure, any OS is bound to have some bugs when adapted to new hardware) it's still a reason to stay away from Nokia's Symbian phones if you wish to use the latest hardware. Maemo has worked a lot better regarding that matter, at least according to my experiences.

Fit for purpose? It was, but now it's pretty outdated to be used anywhere else but low-end phones. A complete UI rewrite might or might not be enough to make it credible again. We'll see.

I've owned various (Nokia) Symbian phones and I've been a (hobbyist) Symbian coder, and all I can say right now is "never again". S^3 and S^4 would have to be pretty damn amazing to change that.