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szopin 2015-07-24 21:27
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Win7Mac (Post 1477837)
This applies to members, not forum users...
And probably yes, if a forum user happens to become a member, he is well advised to post responsibly. What's wrong with that?
Well, so far forum members got to vote on ideas/referendums, now it's just the official names club. Can you comment on KDE listing all GA members? You just stated this is secret?

endsormeans 2015-07-24 21:29
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
By itself...
Informing people is not the battle.
All you are doing is throwing news clips and articles ..
and saying something has to be done...
whilst complaining nothing is getting done.

People taking action based on information is the battle.

szopin 2015-07-24 21:31
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1477840)
By itself...
Informing people is not the battle.

People taking action based on information is the battle.
They need facts, not 'this guy is sexist, based on 3 tweets of women whom we trust', no due process in UCL, no reporter integrity to publish such a story without facts but based on tweets, lots of people just buy it, by informing Louise won this. So yeah, I expect people to act and make opinions based on information (twitter and OSCON bought into randi being anti-harassment, see where this is going?)

Win7Mac 2015-07-24 21:37
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1477839)
Can you comment on KDE listing all GA members? You just stated this is secret?
KDE agreed to publish the list, I guess.
We're publishing only usernames on the wiki.

szopin 2015-07-24 21:38
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Win7Mac (Post 1477843)
KDE agreed to publish the list, I guess.
We're publishing only usernames on the wiki.
Is it your wild guess, or is this information public for non-profits?

edit: just to be clear, transparency is a big thing in EU, you can FOIA (freedom of information act - request based on this) practically every body in EU, would love to have not a wild guess, but confirmation that anyone EU based can not request information that could be used for doxing. Some members here have my info (even paid 10$ for that bloody TM as I said I would, so council has it), but I trust our current members. If leaking my private info is just sending a snailmail/email request, no, screw that, unless you accept my name to be xxx and surname yyy, I'm fine with that, but EU probably not

Win7Mac 2015-07-24 21:43
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
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Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1477844)
Is it your wild guess, or is this information public for non-profits?
MC eV is just a "eingetragener Verein" (registered association), not (yet) a NPO.

peterleinchen 2015-07-24 21:47
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1477839)
... Can you comment on KDE listing all GA members? You just stated this is secret?
What about a simple 'NO' during registration:
Quote:
> 8. Do you agree to your name (only the name, no email address or other data)
> being published on the KDE e.V. membership list [1] and in the
> "new members" section of the quarterly reports (see [2])?
?

https://ev.kde.org/resources/ev-questionnaire.text

Win7Mac 2015-07-24 21:50
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1477846)
What about a simple 'NO' during registration: ?

https://ev.kde.org/resources/ev-questionnaire.text
Great find, thank you!

szopin 2015-07-24 21:51
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1477846)
What about a simple 'NO' during registration:
?

https://ev.kde.org/resources/ev-questionnaire.text
Which stills does not answer FOIA, but good to know you are not obliged to be listed

Win7Mac 2015-07-24 21:53
Re: Real world harassment for opinions, or why GA is doomed to fail
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1477848)
Which stills does not answer FOIA, but good to know you are not obliged to be listed
So what's your point again?


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