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The modem can't stay plugged in while you are on the go. The modem cannot handle switching towers (or whatever Wimax uses) when plugged in, as mentioned on the Rogers/Bell sites.

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If Rogers is offering fixed WiMAX, then their service may be less interesting to N810 WiMAX Edition owners. It certainly won't help Maemo Mapper when speeding down the highway.

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If they really were (which is questionable, but not excluded, considering TR's statement) USB, that would make the N800 case-back replacement (with jumbo battery, USB hub, USB-serial (or maybe serial-console serial, if that's less power drain), and USB-ethernet (and maybe video-out via noBoundaries, someday, for a NED)) a lot cleaner; maybe even commercially viable. Oh for more time...

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:rolleyes:

Kinda contradicts the whole "portable" part of Portable Internet when your modem is almost the same size as your laptop... and has to be plugged into the wall...

Nor will it be very useful for making Skype calls while sitting on the bus. But then again, I hate it when other people do that.

Can Wimax as a standard handle switching towers? I know Wi-Fi really isn't designed for that.

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You would prefer "luggable Internet", perhaps?

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There's two primary uses for WiMAX. As cellular data access, in the case of the N810W, and as last-mile internet access, in the case of this modem.

Portable isn't really relevant for last-mile access.

Of course.

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As the General implied, mobile WiMAX can, while fixed WiMAX cannot. Wikipedia has more information.

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Yeah, that's what I just said. But you made it sound it like you were disagreeing with me.

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It's all part of the larger "confuse the hell out of qole" conspiracy. I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you.

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WiFi is designed for that; I'm on a university network, and (aside from a couple spots where they don't have enough APs) I can walk all over campus; multiple APs can be configured as one SSID, and handoff works. It is a little slow, though, so some projects aimed at WiFi along roads have not worked; the frequency and lag of switchoffs means connection gets lost entirely.

WiMAX handles that smoothly, though.

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Well, I'll be able to tell you all how well Nokia's Wimax implementation works with Rogers Portable Internet... when I buy the NIT v5... 9 months after it has been introduced... so hopefully someone else tests it, because you may be waiting a while for me...

;)

If anyone finds a little battery-powered bluetooth / USB Wimax modem, give me the heads-up, OK? I'd be willing to take something like that for a spin.

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It doesn't work here on the UBC campus. I've tried walking around campus with my N800 and I constantly have to reconnect as I move into the radius of a new AP. It's weird; the SSID of all of the APs is the same but as I move between APs, the new AP doesn't want to talk with my N800. I have to re-authenticate each time.

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Although basic WiFI isn't designed for easy roaming it works if the new AP you hit has the same SSID, different channel, and same DHCP server. I have 3 APs over a few acres and handoff works very well even while on a SIP call. I wasn't expecting to stay on a SIP call but it worked. Other apps like internet radio with the large buffer don't even give a click or any indication of the handoff.

A large campus might and likely segments the network and doesn't account for WiFI handoff. However the N8x has one of the better WiFI setups I've used. Mileage may vary though.

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Hmmm.... guess they broke it. There's more than just matching SSID required, but I don't remember what all. Apparently, neither did they.

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I haven't used an adapter for few months, but iirc it doesn't connect to those, instead there is a bunch of pins in the battery area. The serial port should be in the blue circle.
Regarding the red one, i've never used, but i wouldn't be surprised if it isn't available in production units. Lots of test points disappear while the board goes through successive iterations of design.
Or it could easily be a peephole on the wifi or gps serial ports.
And, to close the pads discussion, i was referring to the 2 pairs of _square_ pads that are in the upper area. one of them is intersecting the red circle. Those are the speakers.

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Hmm. I may have to revisit the fixture and verify that. I might get to look at one tomorrow. You may be right, igor, but I could have sworn contact was made with that separate area...

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If I had to guess, I'd say that Panel Flash in the factory flashes via USB on the 4 pins circled in blue for performance reasons, and most Nokia employees flash their test units with the pins in green using a battery-compartment flash adapter. (This is based on an earlier post by someone saying that when the IT goes into host mode, one of the 4 pins goes to 5V, implying that they're USB headers.)

I know this was done with at least some past Symbian phones.

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it'd be nice if Nokia could offer some sort of upgrade path for n810-non-wimax owners, even if it meant sending it in to have the case-back swapped out and a module soldered in.

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They do offer "some sort" of upgrade path.

Send them $475. Get an N810 WiMAX Edition. Do whatever you want with your existing NIT.

There you go. That's _some_sort_ of upgrade path (full price with no value trade-in).

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Contrary to some expectations, I don't think N810 prices will fall much immediately, so you shouldn't come out far behind; not like the N800->N810 jump, because demand for the new one is limited by network deployment.

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And given the cost of a technicians labor, handling, testing, etc. this may be the most cost effective option. You end up with a new unit, 2 more stylii and still have a bunch of spare parts.
Now if they offered a "kit" for the home hacker for a reasonable price that would be great.

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http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/20/w...gets-stripped/

Pics! PORN!

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Not only pics - but pics of it STRIPPED!

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A little update...

I can't say much on the subject yet, but I can confirm easy access to WiMAX all over Virgina and Maryland. When I was out there recently I kept running into Xohm hotspots almost everywhere I went. Damn things actually got to be pests-- I had the tablet on "autoseek" and the hotspots would sneak up and suck the battery dry if I wasn't paying attention.

So... good news for folks out that way, right?

And testing is going well. That's all I can say.

EDIT: ah! I just found this thanks to the "pr0n" link: http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/18/s...chicago-and-d/

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That's pretty exciting news, Texrat -- here's hoping they don't put you back in the box again. (Ever see Cool-Hand Luke?)

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One of my favorite movies.

And there was no "they" involved... just one individual (and it was not related to this site). Still in a box, but one or two flaps have been opened...

Specific to Xohm... I exaggerated a *bit* about battery suckage but it just might turn out to be an issue for folks walking about. That's gonna lead to a need for solutions, whether that be outboard "juicers", carrying spare BP-4Ls, solar cells on headwear or what-have-you.

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Interesting... I really hope your conversations aren't curtailed for this because I'm kinda happy for snippet info such as this.

Weird that autoseek does a find-and-latch instead of just a find-and-notify; that might be an issue for some people if the former is a default setting instead of the latter with a wizard-like option for however the user chooses.

Testing is indeed going well, much of the east coast is aswatch in WiMax (I've got friends in telecom, we chat). Sprint/Clearwire has a nice thing going with this, if they don't botch the lauch it could be pretty nice of a mobile pendiulm swing.

Or the use of AM OLED for future devices with a solar/kinetic inducting system for trickle charging that would keep accessory makers in business for the heavier users but a appearance of sustainability for lighter users making Nokia look a bit more environmental ;)

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As I said, no relation, but thanks. I have been very careful here. ;)

And I see this as a possible power solution:

http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-3600...lue-p-475.html

I'm buying one! :D

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Interesting... certainly will increase the operating time. (3600mAH versus 1500mAH.)

At the bottom of the page Mugen has the standard BP-4L replacement battery with 1800mAH capacity. The standard Nokia battery is only 1500mAH. If true, the 20% capacity increase sounds interesting too and doesn't break the bank... :) Is it really better, or is Nokia just concervative with the battery rating?

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Search :)
one of the battery threads had a poster who bought one.

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brando have a 4400mAh battery pack which would be good for this; in an ideal world the battery pack would be the same width as the nokia and (say) 80% of the height so it'd tuck underneath nicely.

I heard from a contact at a significant ISP in the UK, previously unconnected with wimax, that they have been considering their position in the market, so I am hoping that wimax will come to the UK sooner than later.

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in UK the wimax is on 3.5 GHz. you will need to wait for a two or three band wimax N8xx... The N810W is for 2.5GHz

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no, the UK spectrum was listed as 2.6GHz, but the freq range of the wimax *module* in the N810W covers that range. There's also been talk of 2.1GHz. Hopefully UK *will* go for same range as USA as it'd mean I could roam in the UK and USA with an N810W.

I emphasise module because it means Nokia can do regional variations.

There *was* an attempt to get a wireless broadband system out on 3.5GHz, PCC bought up licenses but appear to have done nothing with it.

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It would be a real pity if regional versions will be needed, as the NITs are mobile devices. It's when I'm traveling somewhere that my internet tablet really gets useful.

When I'm home I can't see any use for wimax at all really.

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No, nobody sells them yet. Wait till the Xohm launch. ;)

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Do you know if it's been confirmed anywhere that these will release simultaneously with Xohm? I thought it was supposed to be released this summer, but we're into September already :(

I was really hoping to get a WME instead of the vanilla N810, but I've heard so little that it makes me wonder if it's really worth waiting for.

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what will probably happen is the n900 will come out at the same time, just to make choosing even harder, so you'll have the n800, n810, n810w and n900 to decide between!

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Let me just say this fine morning that WiMAX in the Dallas, TX area works very, VERY well.

:D

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"What devices will be ready for the September launch?

Xohm President Barry West: We’ll have in what we call category 1 — meaning devices that we buy, and sell through our distribution — a Zyxel modem, a ZTE modem, a ZTE USB card, and a Samsung aircard. Very shortly after launch, we should see the Nokia [wimax tablet]."

http://www.muniwireless.com/2008/09/...nt-barry-west/