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prk60091 2009-01-05 22:20

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 254590)
who wants to test my new version? please tell me if there are any problems with installation. You can find settings in GConf at /apps/osso/browser/webkit, turn key documentation on to see what values mean.

If you installed my previous packages you MUST issue following commands in terminal as root BEFORE installing this new package:

dpkg --force-all -r microb-eal browser-eal tablet-browser-daemon
apt-get install microb-eal browser-eal tablet-browser-daemon

You also should remove engine-chooser and libicu38 packages since they aren't used anymore.

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=862

will write detailed description later


downloading it as i type

Frank Banul 2009-01-05 22:27

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 254714)
Shortcuts are not a problem, will fix.

I'm not sure if it's obvious but cntl-w to close a window is another good one.

thanks,
Frank

Picklesworth 2009-01-05 22:50

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Just installed the newer, simpler package. Yay, the dependency issues seem to be resolved!

:O Where did all this free space come from? Here as well, I almost thought it hadn't worked and Mozilla had just improved itself. Took some effort to convince myself it was indeed Webkit in use. Pronvit, you deserve a cake.

One free Interweb if you can add kinetics to finger scrolling!

And a note to the uninitiated: Gconf keys can be configured really easily using gconf-editor. It is available in the Extras Devel repository. Handy little utility. Gconf is like the Windows registry done right ;)

Benson 2009-01-05 23:13

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Picklesworth (Post 254734)
One free Interweb if you can add kinetics to finger scrolling!

It's the War of the Webkits!

Tear has kinetic scrolling. :p And just got a 0.3 release. And I haven't fiddled enough with it yet :), but just as soon as I finish test-driving it, I'm definitely gonna try out webkit-eal, as it does sound rather sweet...

luca 2009-01-05 23:23

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Picklesworth (Post 254734)
Gconf is like the Windows registry done right

There, fixed for you ;)

pronvit 2009-01-05 23:27

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 254744)
It's the War of the Webkits!

Tear has kinetic scrolling. :p And just got a 0.3 release. And I haven't fiddled enough with it yet :), but just as soon as I finish test-driving it, I'm definitely gonna try out webkit-eal, as it does sound rather sweet...

Heh, kinetic scrolling is just five lines of code. I simply don't want to implement it until I have scrolling itself fast and smooth enough on all websites. I think such feature either should work flawlessly or not be present at all. But it's likely to appear in next versions if people want it, with option to turn on/off.

pronvit 2009-01-05 23:34

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 254748)
There, fixed for you ;)

One significant difference from windows registry it that in gconf there's schema (or at least should) that defines all available keys with default values, documentation and who owns it, so it's not a scrapyard anymore.

Hofer 2009-01-05 23:59

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Newbie here...

Can somebody please give me a quick tutorial on how to uninstall the old version. I'm such a newbie, the instructions given are too vague.

Thanks

arashed31 2009-01-06 00:00

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Wow thanks to everyone working on this. You all are amazing. I can't believe how much faster webkit is. Browsing the forums is almost as fast as my desktop. Each pages takes no more than 5 seconds to load. I'll say it again: this is amazing.

pronvit 2009-01-06 00:11

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hofer (Post 254761)
Newbie here...

Can somebody please give me a quick tutorial on how to uninstall the old version. I'm such a newbie, the instructions given are too vague.

Thanks

do you really have my previous packages installed? do you have rootsh package installed?

Hofer 2009-01-06 00:21

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
I installed the previous version where I had to download and install 5 or 6 different packages. I got it to work just fine, (thanks btw) but I want to install the new version. I just don't exactly know how to run the command lines you posted "as root" in xterminal.

Thanks

nemo 2009-01-06 00:23

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Hofer, see "rootsh" here.

pronvit 2009-01-06 00:26

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
in app manager install 'rootsh' package.
then open xterminal and run 'root'

then type and execute commang given in that post

pronvit 2009-01-06 01:14

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Who wanted kinetic scrolling - here it is, in 0.0.10. https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=862 Configurable via GConf. Vertical only.

maacruz 2009-01-06 01:34

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 251898)
WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T
entering some text in url field that doesn't look like url will open google search
file downloading doesn't work
cookies work
zoom works
finger scrolling works
find on page works
setting home page works
options like load images, accept cookies, enable javascript, select encoding do nothing

I've found another thing that doesn't work: proxy settings are ignored (tested with privoxy)

pronvit 2009-01-06 01:35

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you're right.. unfortunately..

maacruz 2009-01-06 01:39

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By the way... can fonts be changed? They are almost unreadable to my poor old eyes.

pronvit 2009-01-06 01:40

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Hmm.. zooming in doesn't help??

maacruz 2009-01-06 01:57

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
I'm trying now and zoom doesn't seem to work.
Correction: doesn't work here, internettablettalk; other pages work fine.
Anyway, zooming is much worse than minimum font size setting because on zoomed pages you have to scroll horizontally a lot.
Correction: it seems that in webkit engine zooming=increase font size

Frank Banul 2009-01-06 03:44

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 254796)
Who wanted kinetic scrolling - here it is, in 0.0.10. https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=862 Configurable via GConf. Vertical only.

Upgrading from 0.0.9 to 0.0.10, I don't see an option in GConf for kinetic scrolling. Where should it appear? Or is there something I have to do between versions?

thanks,
Frank

pronvit 2009-01-06 03:55

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Banul (Post 254822)
Upgrading from 0.0.9 to 0.0.10, I don't see an option in GConf for kinetic scrolling. Where should it appear? Or is there something I have to do between versions?

thanks,
Frank

in gconf at path /apps/osso/browser/webkit.

but it's on by default, just try scrolling any page, notice any changes?

Frank Banul 2009-01-06 04:27

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 254825)
in gconf at path /apps/osso/browser/webkit.

but it's on by default, just try scrolling any page, notice any changes?

OK, I see it. Seems like a video limitation puts a damper on the effects.

Frank

buhao 2009-01-06 04:36

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Just got the nrew build and loving it! Is there a way to get plugins and downloading working? If so then i believe you have a hands down winner. I also noticed that tap and hold would not bring up a context menu.

pronvit 2009-01-06 04:54

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Banul (Post 254828)
OK, I see it. Seems like a video limitation puts a damper on the effects.

Frank

for me it works quite well.

my N78 doesn't want to focus while recoding video at all so I'm sorry for quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A55C70zC5cw



buhao, what plugins are you talking about? downloading is still needs to be implemented, working on this.

Bundyo 2009-01-06 07:00

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 254801)
it seems that in webkit engine zooming=increase font size

There are two zoom modes, text only is the default, the other zooms everything.

meizirkki 2009-01-06 07:53

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
In a war there is usyally only one winner...
In my case you are both winners, I really like tear and i am using it as my primary browser. But Bundyos webkit has kind of a bug that shows some of page elements transparent. So i am using pronvit:s webkit and bundyos browser. :)

I still have to use microb for some pages, that have never worked with any WebKit engine i have tried.

Really awesome work, both of you !

nikolajhendel 2009-01-06 08:14

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Just installed for the first time (with the new easy installer).
This update is a gem - thanks pronvit.

tso 2009-01-06 08:15

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meizirkki (Post 254848)
So i am using pronvit:s webkit and bundyos browser. :)

im not entirely sure how thats even possible...

meizirkki 2009-01-06 09:59

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 254854)
im not entirely sure how thats even possible...

I am.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=146

namtastic 2009-01-06 12:56

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Lordy, it's like someone just took the iron ball off my legs here... Wow. This is some serious speed. Thank you for making this normal install (hate red pill)!

tso 2009-01-06 13:01

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meizirkki (Post 254869)

ah, symlink magic...

Frank Banul 2009-01-06 13:15

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 254837)
for me it works quite well.

It's only on some web pages (this forum for example styleid=10) that scrolling is odd. On other pages it's very nice. So sorry for the false alarm.

Frank

buhao 2009-01-06 14:16

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pronvit (Post 254837)
buhao, what plugins are you talking about? downloading is still needs to be implemented, working on this.

Actually only adblock-plus as of right now. I just installed greasemonkey to see if i could get that to work, but since i have no experience with it, i don't know if it is working or not. i believe that greasemonkey can do what adblock does, but adblock-plus is so easy to get up and running that i have never tinkered with greasemonkey.

maacruz 2009-01-06 14:46

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buhao (Post 254905)
Actually only adblock-plus as of right now. I just installed greasemonkey ...

Those are firefox extensions. They can be ported to microb because microb is firefox3 based, but no way they can work with webkit.
By the way, my wishlist would be:
- Download
- Proxy settings (so privoxy can clean some of the ad infestation)
- Minimum font size setting (good for aging eyes)
And, of course, some kind of control (whitelists with wildcards) for js and flash would be great.

buhao 2009-01-06 14:50

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
i thought greasemonkey was available for ie and google chrome as well.

maacruz 2009-01-06 15:04

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buhao (Post 254908)
i thought greasemonkey was available for ie and google chrome as well.

No, although there are now a number of similar extensions for other browsers. The wikipedia page has a good summary.

fatdat888 2009-01-06 18:05

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Wow. I just had to thank you for porting webkit. I'm amazed how much faster the browsing experience is.

Nikem 2009-01-06 19:10

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buhao (Post 254905)
Actually only adblock-plus as of right now. ...

I just use a host file, works great for whatever browser I'm using: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...3&postcount=10

buhao 2009-01-06 19:43

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikem (Post 254962)
I just use a host file, works great for whatever browser I'm using: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...3&postcount=10

did this and it works ok although it seems to slow down rendering quite a bit and leaves a big white space where the ads were.

tso 2009-01-06 23:01

Re: WebKit engine for default browser
 
i wonder if the component system could be abused as a tweak system for webkit...


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