Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Including Adroid
http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...on%20SmarQ.htm
This keeps getting better.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

i just wonder where one can download that android firmware image tho...

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

This blog is the best English info source I've found so far:

http://www.jiongtang.com/blog/html/c...smartq5/page/1

Edit:

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

you can get the Android image (smartQ5) on the Chinese site

http://www.zhiqi.com.cn/thread-1523-1-1.html

I've a smartq7 so - no luck for me
:rolleyes:

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I got Q7. And I really like to run Mer on it. But Q5 firmware doesn't work properly. The screen is offset to 1/3 and its color is not correct. The touch screen works but it's offset too. I can't type the name in so I am stuck and can not login.

Anyone can help me what kind of modification I need to do with Q5 firmware to make it run on Q7.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

So actually our normal firmware works (SmartQ5 file or do you have to rename it), but the LCD is not set up correctly? I have started building a kernel for Q7. Will you be interested in testing it for me?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Reliable source for the SmartQ5 and SmartQ7 go to " www.smartq7.com " estore online. They are currently taking pre-order for these two units. The ordering is secure, fast, and simple.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Doesn't look trustworthy to me.
Where is this company registered? There is no legal information. Does the price include VAT? Which country's VAT?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Yeah, sorry, this just seems like spam. 229.99 usd vs 189.99 on eletroworld for a q7, and 149.99 usd vs 189.99 on eletroworld..

Also, preorder? wtf? :P That's about as scary as the pandora shop carrying them..

(I am not associated with eletroworld whatsoever.)

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Indeed, most of the people who bought it ordered it from eletroworld, so this seems to be tho most trustworthy shop.

I find this Q7 more & more interesting everyday ...

If only Mer worked really easily on it ... and was already in a final version ... ;)

Eletroworld aded a link to Mer ...

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

>Stskeeps
If you need i'm willing to do test runs on Q7.
But i'm not a hacker only a simple PC user (who have installed a lot of different linux distr. on my PCs)

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

well so this smart q5 could be considered a "n800+" ? with the capabilities to make graphics drivers, a little faster hardware and bigger screen?

besides the original OS and mer, what else would run properly? is it REALLY better than a n800 at all?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Except it doesn't have a dpad. It's probably lacking a few other N800-isms as well (does it have 2 full size SD card slots?)

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I think it has just one SDHC slot
http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

I am on the point of buying one but just want to wait a day or so to confirm that the Viliv X70 is out of my budget. The X70 is touted as having Linux as an optional os
http://www.myviliv.com/ces/main_x70atom.html

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Well, it is smaller in all dimension, and noticeably lighter. It has a slightly bigger screen (3-4%). SD performace is much better (at least 3 times as fast). It has much better video performance (closed source for now). It has potential (spec available) for 2D and 3D acceleration. It has TV out (not supported yet).

On the other hand it has only one speaker, it does not have a microphone or camera. It has a lot less buttons. You can't use bluetooth and USB client at the same time (bluetooth and USB host together is possible). It has one SD slot and 1GB internal card. It does not have easily replaceable battery. Build quality appears lower (it could be specific to my N800 and Q5, but I guess not).

Overall, I would call it a better device. Not better enough to buy as a N800 replacement, unless playing high resolution video is considered essential, but better enough to buy if you want to buy a device for running Mer, and those are your two options.

But I am biased for hackable hardware, so it is likely that the leaked 6410 datasheet is the main reason for my preferring the Q5.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

That's what I was thinking (from reading things here). It seems like it's in the same "pocketaable keyboardless tablet" category as the N800... and certainly a more modernized design... but not really an N800+.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Sorry johnkzin, I misread the 5 and posted info for the SmartQ 7.

Guess I really need that bigger screen, huh?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Size does matter ... the bigger, the better
I'm thinking to get a Q7 too !

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I wonder, what is better for the Q7, the original Ubuntu or Mer ?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Thanks a lot, very helpful.

Does it accept external microphone input? (I'm wondering if it's VOIP-capable.)

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I am glad to test it. I got the firmware. I will try it. It's not easy because the Q7 never can be shut down after installation of Mer for Q5.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

The LCD became to work poorly after I tested win CE. After that the original system also have the color problem(incorrect color), so does mer for Q5.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

For those who have or are about to get the Q7, here are dismantling photos so you don't have to - unless you really must.

http://216.239.59.132/translate_c?hl...xBft2MzEIjShIg

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

updated - success

(Sorry - i think my Q7 is ****...

I cant install mer or v.1 of smarts firmware..)
- Yes I can if i hold down the menu/function button!

On SmartQ7 you should push "menu" (on top -> power, reload, select on the front you have "+, - , menu ). And plug in the charger.

I've installed mer 0.13 okey

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I did chance the root psw to get my device a little more english - as you do a firmware update you only see a black screen - so - you really dont know if you need to type in a psw or what ever...

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8002&page=5

a was thinking if things like that (hardware dependant... and it looks like it's absolutely impossibel to get the graphic drivers on n8x0) have more future in q5 than any N-series

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I don't think v1 of smart firmware works with Q7 honestly. There's a way to resurrect your machine through SD card boot probably.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Right, - the upgrade to Mer work and fix the 1/3 part of screen problem, but color problem remains?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

And now we have Canola running on the Q7. This thing is on a roll.
http://mp4nation.net/blog/2009/06/ne...5q7/#more-1562
Interestingly the writers have no idea what Canola is.

I have not yet located how to download it from the SmartQ site. I can't find it here
http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Hi guys,

So I've read the 19 pages of this thread and other topics elsewhere on the web and while some questions I got received their answers, I'm still a bit confused about these devices. To be clear : I'm a total newbie in the mid and maemo world and my knowledge pretty much sums up to Windows and Ubuntu. That's not much to say the least...

I'm looking for a device for the following uses :
- Browsing the internet at reasonable speed, mainly reading emails, news websites, boards and youtube...
- Typing text during lectures (I'm a student) - using a external keyboard obviously here. Being able to use OpenOffice would be great.
- Emulate Games (up to SNES and MegaDrive generation is enough...DosBox and/or ScummVM too).
- Good experience for watching videos, in terms of speed and possibility to read wide range of formats.
- Decent mp3 player
- Installation of a linux-based OS

My "custom firmwared" PSP taught me that I'm quite geeky when it comes to try new softwares and uses for a device. The Maemo, although my knowledge about it is quite limited (still discovering this website:)), looks like a fine OS for that. But is the SmartQ a good choice (5 or 7) ? It's more than reasonable price is quite appealing, especially for a student. I'm not looking for a powerful machine but something decent enough to evolve through time.

Thanks !

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

The device that could fit the bill best is the upcoming Pandora console running Angström IF it is for sale in stores one day. Currently sold ARM devices like N8x0 and SmartQ are not fast enough for browsing, video, OO, etc IMO.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Yeah I know about the Pandora but it's been in the "almost there" status for months now. Its price went up and I could get a 32 go Ipod Touch or a honest Netbook instead, products that actually do exist...

Too bad for the poor video performances. Maemo doesn't help in comparison of the original Ubuntu OS ?

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I already have an N800 and N810, so I would want a Q7 because it wouldn't seem like so much of a duplicate of what I already have. Maybe I'll get one in a few weeks.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I'm tempted by the Q7 ... but I'd be MUCH more interested in a Q9 if such a thing ever came out. Especially if Mer is fully ported to it, and had: a Diablo-like GUI, supports screen rotation, and has a portrait mode virtual thumb keyboard. But the one problem I see with both the Q5 and the Q7 is that neither one has a dpad.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Of course, it lacks a D-Pad but for me the only purpose of it would be gaming and I don't see myself playing with a huge device like the Q7 in my hands. Wouldn't it support an USB game controller ? Not sexy but way more efficient...

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

Then go for a netbook (if you don't care for the pocketability) .
They're slightly more expensive than the smartq, but if the smartq is as underpowered as the n800, the netbook is a much better option.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

One of my two uses for a 7" - 10" device is "on a table top", where I can use it for typing notes and the like. That fits very well with what you're saying (only not oriented toward gaming).

But, my other use is "reading stuff on the bus/train". And, in that situation, I very definitely want/need/use a dpad. Not for gaming, but for browsing (scrolling, selecting the next widget, selecting the next link, etc.), just like using the Dpad on an N800/N810 can be used for web browsing. Doing that with a dpad has a much finer and accurate granularity than using a finger or stylus on a bouncy bus/train trip.

That similar "away from a table/desk" use is why I'd want to have a portrait mode vitual thumb keyboard. I probably wouldn't do it on the bumpiest areas of my bus ride (express bus between two cities, over a semi-twisty mountain road), but I would definitely want it for things like "ssh or VNC to a server console while I'm standing in the data center, between machine rows, bringing that server back from the dead" or things like that.

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

I've installed mer 0.13 and it is beautyful...

It think all works - midori and xterm starts fine (the only apps i could see) and you can open settings

it would be nice to have a file manager (you need to install wifi firmware before you can go out to internet)

And Helsinki has a fine weather now ;)

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

On a SmartQ5 I guess ?:o

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 

No on my smartQ7:D