Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Hello geeks?

Please could someone explain to me how I can begin with the catorise menu editing... i was looking for the text file to change the menu structure but i could not find it when i connected the phone through mass storage mode

How do i go about this please?

thank you.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I am saying the more app you open...at least 15 apps...it created a glitch in Catorise...and makes it unuseable...that's all!

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Is it possible to get rid of the Science category? It seems like you hardly store anything there. It'll be better to create a category called "CONVERSATION" and you put contact, email, pidgin, conversation all in there rather than "NETWORK."

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

The file is /opt/catorise/menu, it is not exposed via mass storage mode. You can edit it as any user, but /opt/catorise/catorise needs to be run as root to enact the changes.

I know this isn't a step-by-step newbie-friendly tutorial.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Can you please raise a bug with the list of apps you've opened and take a screenshot of the result. It is almost certainly a bug in hildon-desktop.

I don't "store" anything anywhere. The categories correspond to the ones which which are available to packagers which were based on the freedesktop.org categories. The section is used within the Application Manager and maemo.org Downloads.

The names of the categories are taken from Application Manager's localised text for those categories and the applications within a category are decided by the packagers.

The only thing I've categorised are the built-in applications (which don't have valid information), if you think anything else is miscategorised it is a bug in that package.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

hello,
so today i decided to uninstall catorise and while doing that in app manager i had msg of FAIL and after that my n900 keep rebooting
non-stop.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

If you get flasher-3.5 from tablets-dev.nokia.com, you can --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=disable-lifeguard-reset and then repeatedly press Ctrl-Shift-X during booting to resolve whatever error situation you are in (and the output of df -h would be useful).

Alternatively, you can reflash.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

hmmm i was trying to flash it, but it didnt worked.

first:
i installed maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2 (for xp),
downloaded bin: RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM (Latest Maemo 5 Middle East and North Africa release for Nokia N900)

second:
i put the bin file in flash3.5 folder
then i connect the usb to phone using U to flash

in cmd command i type:
flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin -f -R

then i had msg back:
flasher v2.5.2 <Sep 24 2009>

RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin: %m

and thats all, nothing happened

about your first option, i didnt understand where i type those commands

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I'd stay away from R&D mode if you're not fully comfortable with what you're doing, SubSix...

Stick to the flashing - in your other thread about this, someone has posted a response that should get you flashing okay. You have to put the .bin file in the same directory as the flasher - that's why you got your error message.

Maybe you could delete the other thread as this is all being repeated now :)

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

ah true, i was in shortcut folder :P heh
now when i hold 'u' and connect device via usb it find it but when i type:
flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin -f -R

it saying Suitable usb device not found, waiting...

kinda funny when i go to my computer its there

EDIT:
i didnt knew i need to start phone so it start the flash thing..
updated now.

thanks alot guys for helping :)

Re: Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Perfect! Thanks very much

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

is it possible change the name of category "location & navigation" because the length is too long for the menu it only shows navig..?

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

At the moment it uses the translations from the Application Manager. We could use our own set of translations (based off the community translations), but I'd rather #8955 was fixed in hildon-desktop.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I would also like to see some more folders...
I know have 31 apps in system folder !
These could be else where or in new folders like :

Fun
Communication
Organizer
etc.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

A new release of Catorise, 0.8.2 is now in Extras-testing:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...atorise/0.8.2/

Compared with 0.8.0 in Extras, this includes some improvements in recognising Ovi applications - especially on PR1.2 (according to users using the leaked image). However, some Ovi applications will end up in Other due to the approach Nokia took in the last attempt to get the Ovi Store working on Maemo.

We will wait and see if they come up with a better solution anytime soon.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I have a question: Why is Mobile hotspot put into "others" although the metadata shows it's categorized as "network"

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I reflashed my n900 with PR1.2 and installed catorise but it hasn't worked - I have the same list of applications in the menu. I even ran /opt/catorise/catorise as root but it doesn't seem to have worked. what should I do?

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

after the installation of pr1.2 some icons changed place after their applications were reinstalled from the lsst backup. For example Angry Birds is now on Other (it used to be in OVI folder).
I would like that someone could teach me to move the icons from the wrong place to the right folder).

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I am also seeing this problem since I updated to PR1.2. Any fix?

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I have the same problem (icons in wrong folder). Anyway to move them to the correct folder?

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I´m having problems with the order of the top level icons. They are in a strange order. using the new (PR1.2) ordering function does not help.
Using ver 0.8.2.

Anyone know how to fix this?
Maybe I'll try the version from devel?

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

In my case, catorise (v.0.8.2) (and even mymenu) are doing nothing after installation on maemo version 10.2010.19-1.

Even not by invoking catorise manually from xTerm "/opt/catorise/catorise".

Thanks for your help!

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

have a problem on my N900 that is:

Uninstalling the catorize and most of my icons are gone, such as file management, backups and all the programs I have installed.

Even thought about reinstalling to see if catorize hand didst but know how, since creating a shortcut on the desktop manager, it does not open. Creates the shortcut but does nothing, and all the icons that are gone.

I have pr 1.2 installed

Please help

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Where's the "Mobile Hotspot" package, so that I can inspect its .desktop file? I suspect it's specifying an incorrect freedesktop.org category.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

"Strange"? Please be more specific.

• What applications do you have installed?
• Can you post your /opt/catorise/menu file, please?
• Can you post your /etc/xdg/menus/hildon.menu file, please?
• Can you run, as root, /opt/catorise/catorise and paste the output?

Thanks in advance.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

The package can be found in extras-testing/devel.
http://mobilehotspot.garage.maemo.org/

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Hi,

I have fixed the issue whereby running catorise does nothing. Simply:

Then, as root, run catorise again!

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Quick question, I was wondering if anyone knows where I could find version 0.8.0 or 0.8.1?

I can't seem to find the old .deb and the package overview states that the old versions were cleaned from the repositories. About a week ago I updated to the current 0.8.2 and it seems to conflict with something else I have installed causing hildon-desktop to hover at 5-6% of cpu usage or hildon-thumbnail to hover at 30-35% usage with only Conky running. After uninstalling 0.8.2, Conky showed hildon-desktop dropping back to at most 1-2% and hildon-thumbnail to nothing. I miss the clean menus of Catorise and currently it would be easier for me to revert to an older version rather than finding the other conflicting program(s). Thanks in advance.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

It seems unlikely that it's anything to do with Catorise. The menu generation code hasn't changed for ages (just performance improvements for reading package lists and heuristics for picking up Ovi apps).

So I'm not sure downgrading Catorise would help. Does it persist even after a reboot?

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

When you say "Catorise does nothing"; can you explain - exactly - the symptoms you'd seen; whether they were reproducible; whether you'd customised your menu any other way (say using the PR1.2 feature or MyMenu or similar and so on?

Thanks in advance.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Well, disabling catorise (by renaming hildon.catorise to hildon.menu) and using the default menu sees the hildon-desktop cpu % remain low after using the menu multiple times.

With the catorise menu it results in elevated cpu use by hildon-desktop after accessing the menu as described by folk above. Restarting the desktop returns matters to normal until the catorise menu is accessed.

Nice app though, thanks

HA

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

It sounds like a bug in hildon-desktop; can you attach your Catorise hildon.menu somewhere? Possibly even a bug report? :-)

Sounds pretty conclusive. Your /opt/catorise/menu file and the /home/user/.config/menus directory would also be extremely useful in trying to diagnose the cause of the problem.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I will happily open a bug report. First tho' take a squizz at these and let me know if still to proceed:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54462 - catorise mentioned towards end

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10412 - bug arising from above

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

@Jaffa: still want a bug report, or should I mail you those files as attachments?

HA

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

I rebooted a couple of times and shortly after going to the Catorise menu the problem would reappear each time. I then uninstalled Catorise and went without it for 2 days and was fine. Reinstalling Catorise from Extras thereafter reintroduced the problem again so I just finally decided to go without it and I've been fine ever since.

I also don't think the problem is Catorise (could be hildon-desktop like you mention later for all I know) but it would be easier to revert that single program. At least that's my lazy work around to test if Catorise was the catalyst for the problem like I believe. I'll also try to get you my copy of those files you requested of handaxe so you have at least 2 samples to work with. Thank you kindly for your time.

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Hi!
I installed catorise but it doesn t work.
It does nothing...no menu or whatever.
there still all programms.
how can I fix this?
I tried rebooting it...
uninstalled it...and installed it again...nothing
also run /opt/catorise/catorise
output is like this #######################
still nothing

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

Can someone help? I was able to access /opt/catorise/menu before to put my icon to different location, but now when i try to access it again it said 'Permision denied.'

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

catorise wont update any new installed programms?!!?!
pls help

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

You should make it so we can move stuff around, because i don't like some my games in the Ovi folder instead of the games folder. And contacts and phone are in different folders :s

Re: [Maemo 5] Catorise: auto-sort applications menu
 

There's an app called "Catorise GUI" with which you can re-arrange items.