Re: Returning my N900
 

And I agree completely.. but complaining about it I don't think is going to anybody any good if Nokia has already made up their mind. That's why I stopped.

However, if they do find a way to run M5 and M6 apps on both M5 and M6 then whats the big deal about not having M6? If the new apps work we should be OK.. the biggest issue I see here now is the "bugs" that have been reported and are being said to be implemented or fixed in M6.. Those could be problematic - but only if that specific bug is a deal breaker for you.

I mean honestly.. even without OS upgrades... the N900 is the best device on the market for me. I can't get what I need out of the Nexus One.. even with OS upgrades. So while it is disappointing to think the N900 won't be updated OS-wise.. it's still the best thing for me ATM. I just can't afford it, unfortunately. Who knows.. by the time I can maybe M6 will be out and I'll decide for that one instead...

After, of course, I watch these forums for a few weeks and do extensive research on what it brings to the table..

Re: Returning my N900
 

Business users and N900? I think that there is probably many many many devices that excel on area of email/calendar/sync over N900. This is pure entertainment(freedom, audio/video, browser) as Ari Jaaksi wrote on his Blog about maemo vision.

Re: Returning my N900
 

NO, not the oil, but if you want built in "TomTom" GPS Navigation or On Star or Serious Satellite Radio Than yes you shouldn't assume you should double check and test drive the car before you buy it.

MS Exchange Mail Sync is a feature that not all smart phones have. So if your REQUIRE this type of email for work or w/e than you should check to see if it's on option before you your car/phone or w/e.

Re: Returning my N900
 

Hold on a sec gerbick.

My personal issue is with all the assuming that goes on, especially from certain incessant ranters. There are certainly enough new and unique aspects around this device that people really should take a bit of time and dig deeper than they would when buying, say, a coffeemaker.

It's also extremely disingenuous for anyone to say something as absurd as "oh it lacks [insert feature used by small percentage of the global population here], so the many other features mean absolutely nothing and therefore the entire device is useless."

and yet... :rolleyes:

Re: Returning my N900
 

Oh, so if the BRAND new car is advertised as having "tomtom navigation", and If i see the hardware on the car, I assume its meant to work.....I am not expected to look around on forums and look for the software to make it work....

Just like I assumed the Front facing camera should work... its there, but does it work?? :confused:.... seriously....

Re: Returning my N900
 

It works.
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Video#mplayer
And some people have reported that it works over gtalk on some situations.

So you could say that it works but it´s now fully/completely used anywhere. Same applies to many functions on this device they "half" work.

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For sake of your own credibility stop using multiple periods between sentences. ;)

Re: Returning my N900
 

lol its just like I have to write codes to the ECU to make the tomtom work:confused:. What about people who dont go on forums? they will never b able to use the camera..
It works over gtalk on SOME situations. there is no gtalk in uk:confused: and the "in some situations" looks like the tomtom will only work in London, and it MAY NOT work in Manchester, or Liverpool, or Birmingham...

Re: Returning my N900
 

I total agree, and almost every review that I'VE read prior to buying the device said something to that affect.

Re: Returning my N900
 

It´s not being advertised and I already said that quite many things are half done. How many times these kinds of conversation have to be repeated here?

It fcking sucks monkeys *sss on many areas and is amazing on other areas.

You can wonder it's lack of basic functionalities on some of its basic apps till brake of dawn or you can really do something.

Re: Returning my N900
 

This is supposed to be device about communication, that integrates YOUR communication, and it fails in the most common use of communication: EMAIL!!!!

Re: Returning my N900
 

Wrong.

It fails in a very small and mostly unused and very specific part of EMAIL that is important to you.

It succeeds just fine for many other people that use email.

Re: Returning my N900
 

It succeeds for unemployed and teenagers........I agree......from that standpoint this is a restricted device and disengeniously advertised..........

Re: Returning my N900
 

And for people whose company are open about their exchange...

The only place it doesn't work is for people whose companies want to pretend they care about security without actually caring about security.. :rolleyes:

It also doesn't work for people whose company care about *real* security.. but then: neither will any customer bought phone.

But *shrug*.

Re: Returning my N900
 

i have no problems with my emails .. As I currently have thousands of emails in my hotmail, I set up a new gmail account, and put my hotmail on forwarding all emails to the gmail.
in this way, it dsnt sync all the 2000+ emails already on the hotmail server..... Just the new ones....

Re: Returning my N900
 

Email works on my N900. It's not pretty and is really just basics.

Re: Returning my N900
 

I doubt you'll find where I've said otherwise. But let's be honest, the vitriol goes both ways. And none of it is "pretty".

Assumptions... first three letters are very true usually; moreso in these situations.

I've assumed nothing about the N900. The money - what little I do I have - has stayed in my pocket.

Re: Returning my N900
 

And fails for all true Scotsmen.

Re: Returning my N900
 

WTF? As said provision is not widely used here in Europe on business email systems.

Re: Returning my N900
 

The Nokia N-Series is for multimedia... that's what it's always been designated for. Bringing enterprise business into the mix is not part of the deal. That's the E-Series.

Been that way for years.

Re: Returning my N900
 

I heard the Music player (part of multemedia) doesnt do its job properly.. tags:confused:
front cam is another example of multimedia:confused: which doesnt work out of the box....:eek:
whats left for multimedia? "being open-source" doesnt make it a multimedia device.. only flash integration???

Re: Returning my N900
 

OK. Let me be clearer. Nokia is telling us that this is a computer/phone, computer first, phone second. Every computer I had has been able to access my corporate email. But this one does not................................

Re: Returning my N900
 

Hmmm. Computer? This is Computer with linux OS.

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btw. Is it possible to make VPN connection to corporates network and then use maemos email client to access mail servers? Would it still need provisioning?

Re: Returning my N900
 

I Agree. N series is for multimedia..
N95 had its own style of sliding both ways - one way for multimedia keys..:cool:
N900 however, u cannot even pause a song without unlocking the screen.. not even with the headset... U cannot skip tracks with the headset..
Also I havent noticed it, but I read the music doesnt stop playing when u receive a call ( i have no idea to what extent this is true)..
It even fails in the area of being a N-Series Phone...

Re: Returning my N900
 

My BeOS machine won't access MS Exchange. It's a computer.

You're splitting hairs trying to stack them in your defense. Let's just be frank. The N900 doesn't support MS Exchange provisioning. I get that.

But to say all computers (implicit) support your needs, you're mistaken there too.

Re: Returning my N900
 

If you said that it doesn't work with Skype out of the box, I'd agree. But look around, there's folks using it with Mirror as well as with Google Talk. So... we're just going to have to disagree there.

I am, however, personally pissed off it doesn't support video calling via Skype out of the box. That's one of the main reasons I won't buy a N900.

Re: Returning my N900
 

dont worry. Nokia is working on it:rolleyes:.
if they dont, then am sure someone will do something - because remember, its open source :D

by the way, u didnt answer my previous question about how its a multimedia device:confused:

Re: Returning my N900
 

Skype isn't fully open source, although they have opened it up for Linux.

It plays music files, videos, allows access to the web, has Flash inside of a full-blown browser, takes pictures, can e-mail said pictures (via POP3 and IMAP) and supports Facebook, IM, and Skype.

Has a microphone, a speaker, and a screen. Those all say "multimedia"; the functions may be rough... but it does the above. My expectations stop there. The UI, the experience is all up to the user if they like it or not. And things that are lacking... it's up to the person if they're satisfied or not.

Re: Returning my N900
 

i dont understand why this thread is so long.

Dont like the phone? does not work for your needs well dont buy it and return it. problem solved. stop crying about it

Re: Returning my N900
 

My old phone had all that (except full flash). It played music and videos better. with better control.. had better FB integration - no need for 3rd party apps....
And Any new phone/smartphone has these capabilities nowadays. and they r better in a lot of other ways... Theres nothing special about the "multimedia" bit on this phone... or did i miss something??

Re: Returning my N900
 

Is there a headphone connector that supports skip/pause track with an external headphone? I find it annoying to reach out for the phone everytime I need to skip a track while playing a long playlist.

Re: Returning my N900
 

Never said it was "special". Why did you get rid of your old phone then? Seems like you had a good phone.

Re: Returning my N900
 

NO.... this is a multimedia device.. how can u expect all this :mad::mad:

Re: Returning my N900
 

i said "special" because u said its a "Multimedia" phone but there is nothing which makes it a different multimedia device from others..

Its upgrade time...

Re: Returning my N900
 

To avoid a long-drawn out, circular discussion... my statement wasn't towards anything else other than the designation of what the Nokia N-Series meant.

If I had to explain what makes the N900 multimedia, then perhaps it's not the phone for you. I'll be 100% honest, it's not the phone for me. I require a few other things from my phone(s), in its present form doesn't work well enough for me.

And because a phone is in the Nokia N-series, it means simply that it'll do those things. Whether or not you're happy with your experience with it; up to you. I can say that while being impressed with the N900, it simply is not the phone for me.

I'd suggest other options. I am.

Re: Returning my N900
 

The media player on this device is as bad as a media player can be and there are tons of threads on this website to that effect. If you can find a £10 mp3 player it will probably do a better job than the N900 does as an mp3 player. So that is certainly not one of the N900's strenghts

Re: Returning my N900
 

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm tired of playing Captain Obvious to a crowd that's stubbornly blind and deaf.

Let 'em think as they will.

Re: Returning my N900
 

I think I've earned a friggin' N900 by now. I don't even own one, but I'm answering questions.

You listening Nokia?

Re: Returning my N900
 

it doesn't fail at all

Re: Returning my N900
 

Ah dammit... it's gonna start up again.

Re: Returning my N900
 

Hmm. Accelerated h.264 video? Tv-out connectors out of box. Streaming video to internet. What do you mean by FB integration? Facebook? You got chat out of box and hermes from extras that pulls out nicely also stuff.

NOTHING incredibly new or amazing. Actually in my opinion I haven't personally found ANY device that would drop my jaws. Everything is **** until proven wrong. At least to me.