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Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 649204)

yes im aware it can boot from micro sd but how do i get it to (what root= should i pass to kernel - i dont want it to boot from initfs

I havent fiddled a lot with bootloaders, but you would have to install a bootloader and have an entry that points to the vmlinuz on the sd card.

A bootloader you can at least find in quole's repository, and most if not all load straight into maemo if your keyboard is not out, and if you have your keyboard out you can select between the OS's you have made bootloader entries for.

The reason I have not fiddled with bootloaders is that on computers they usually just configure them self, but this will not be the case in this scenario.

EDIT:
To answer your question more correctly, but im not entirely sure, it would be something like root = "/sd2/boot/vmlinuz" or something like that...

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

lol got roung that issue :) direct boot to microsd - done,

editing the nitdroid.com page with my findings so far momentarily

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 649276)

lol got roung that issue :) direct boot to microsd - done,

editing the nitdroid.com page with my findings so far momentarily

Did you look at the patch file I posted before for the touchscreen patches? look for tsc2005.ko in the patch file for the changes.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

which patch file ? only one i saw was the n900_kernel ?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 649352)

which patch file ? only one i saw was the n900_kernel ?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...126#post571126

The patch file is attached on this post

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Allo!

The wifi works, its pretty cool though a bit slow.. :)

I hope you'll continue to work on it for N810 as it really needs a new and usable distro ;)

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hmm ill have a better read of that later, though i have applied that patch

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i don't really understand all this kernel stuff and all but this all looks interesting. From what I gathered android is booted uo from microSD right?
Is it possible that it can be booted from the internal storage/harddrive/emmc/whatever-i-really-don't-know? Would it be faster to load than from microSD? Just curious and keep up the awesome work

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by fieryriver (Post 650562)

Theoretically, yes it could be faster. But the change would be really little, and you might just see some difference in the boot or something that would take a lot of time anyway.

Point being, there is no point in installing it on the internal storage rather than SD card for speed.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Hi,

just tried to install nitdroid on my n800!
The links of the newest nitdroid version (Post 1) doesn't work - they break up after a few MBytes! So I installed the second newest Version: 0.5)

I got everything like in the how-to - but when I try to boot I get a error like: cannot execve ... mediaserver ... Permission denied (thats what I remember).
Any ideas?

EDIT:
I tried my other SD-Card and it worked just fine! (Isn't really fast at all, but the error didn't came up!)
This time I unchecked "become owner" when I created the partitions with Ubuntu 10.04 (system -> drive manager or something similar - I don't know the exact name, because I'm running a german version)! Maybe a "chown" had shown the same effect!

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

perms, i need to re up the newer file to my other server later, run chmod -R 755 /system/bin /system/etc /system/usr from your linux pc before trying boot that should sort it :)

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

no, doesn't work! Don't no, what I did wrong...
will try the new version after you upped it again.
What sizes of partitions would you suggest for a 4GB-card?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

the partition sizes *shouldn* amtetr least on smaller cards, do ls -l /system/bin if you could please

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

ok this is seriously update worthy :) we have a working touch screen on NITDroid-N900 now :) workign on sound bluetooth and phone setup now

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

greaaaaat ! can't wait you do this !

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I've been reading this topic for quite some time checking in every now and then to see the progress and I must say that you are very telented Dj_Steve. The progress that you are making is remarkable and I can't wait till there is an installable end user friendly version thats noob installable.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

remarkable isnt the word lol still no wifi/BT/phone on n900 yet working on them though

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by rahulg247 (Post 652190)

Agreed!
Porting Android to N900 is easier said than done and we appreciate the time and effort Dj_Steve!

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 652162)

ok this is seriously update worthy :) we have a working touch screen on NITDroid-N900 now :) workign on sound bluetooth and phone setup now

Awesome work, DJ_Steve. Out of curiosity, what is your impression of the performance at this point (despite there being modules that aren't working)?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

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Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 652212)

Awesome work, DJ_Steve. Out of curiosity, what is your impression of the performance at this point (knowing well aware there are modules that aren't working)?

put it this way its like using maemo with the 1ghz kernel - my kernel is standard cpu speeds so max of 600 and im not sure it even changes state yet

edit: few simple commands ive just ran via adb for you all :)

free/used ram:

Code:

# free

              total         used         free       shared      buffers

  Mem:       244864       149072        95792            0        11648

 Swap:            0            0            0

Total:       244864       149072        95792

cpuinfo:

Code:

# cat /proc/cpuinfo

Processor       : ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)

BogoMIPS        : 499.92

Features        : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3

CPU implementer : 0x41

CPU architecture: 7

CPU variant     : 0x1

CPU part        : 0xc08

CPU revision    : 3



Hardware        : Nokia RX-51 board

Revision        : 2104

Serial          : 0000000000000000

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

well that's going to be very interesting ^^ and yeah i think that we all apreciate your work and your efforts ;) thanks !!!

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

ill do a quick video shortly not that their is much to show to be honest

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 652213)

Code:

# free

              total         used         free       shared      buffers

  Mem:       244864       149072        95792            0        11648

 Swap:            0            0            0

Total:       244864       149072        95792

cpuinfo:

Code:

# cat /proc/cpuinfo

Processor       : ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)

BogoMIPS        : 499.92

Features        : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3

CPU implementer : 0x41

CPU architecture: 7

CPU variant     : 0x1

CPU part        : 0xc08

CPU revision    : 3



Hardware        : Nokia RX-51 board

Revision        : 2104

Serial          : 0000000000000000

Very cool. I wonder if it would be worth using swap (maybe sharing the allocated swap space that Maemo uses?) or if just relying on Android's state/memory management would suffice.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

next thing im looking at is activation maemos swap and disabling android Low mem killer (somehow suspect its not really going to be needed much on 200+mb ram

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

ok youtube video is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCemtVEIUo once youtube finish processing it

nothin particually interesting happening in it buit its a proof of concept :)

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

How difficult will it be to get graphics acceleration?

If it is already there that would be awesome.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

the drivers are inbuilt and loaded on boot so im guessing it may already be their

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Great progress! It's nice to see android actually working on N900.
Does it also work in portrait mode or do you need to install a driver for the accelerometer or something first?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

nothing of use works yet, accelerometer included (though the firmware is available for said just android cant use it

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 652126)

the partition sizes *shouldn* amtetr least on smaller cards, do ls -l /system/bin if you could please

Code:

*@*:~$ ls -l /media/sec/system/bin

insgesamt 2932

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  35300 2010-04-09 16:16 alsa_amixer

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    191 2010-03-16 18:43 am

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  90920 2010-04-08 15:27 applypatch

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 214600 2010-04-08 15:20 applypatch_static

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5664 2010-04-11 15:41 app_process

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   3128 2010-03-27 16:06 batt_mon

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5172 2010-03-29 17:56 bluetoothd

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    199 2010-03-16 18:43 bmgr

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14340 2010-04-11 15:41 bootanimation

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    582 2010-03-16 20:32 boot_maemo

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      9 2010-05-10 19:11 bugreport -> dumpstate

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 cat -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  66724 2010-04-08 15:20 check_prereq

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 chmod -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 chown -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 cmp -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5512 2010-04-08 15:33 dalvikvm

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 date -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 109460 2010-04-08 15:31 dbus-daemon

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 dd -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18052 2010-04-08 15:21 debuggerd

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9740 2010-04-08 15:33 dexopt

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 df -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  44564 2010-04-08 15:28 dhcpcd

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 dmesg -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      9 2010-05-10 19:11 dumpcrash -> dumpstate

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14216 2010-04-08 15:27 dumpstate

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9808 2010-04-08 15:30 dumpsys

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5488 2010-04-08 15:28 dvz

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  12348 2010-04-08 15:21 evtest

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 exists -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9668 2010-04-08 15:28 flash_image

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  22568 2010-04-08 15:20 fsck_msdos

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151868 2010-03-16 18:43 gdbserver

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 getevent -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 getprop -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5524 2010-04-08 15:24 gzip

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18920 2010-04-08 15:27 hciattach

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5172 2010-04-08 15:32 hcid

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 hd -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 id -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ifconfig -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 iftop -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    194 2010-03-16 18:43 ime

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    201 2010-03-16 18:43 input

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 insmod -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14052 2010-04-08 15:28 installd

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ioctl -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 104952 2010-04-08 15:21 iptables

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  13956 2010-04-08 15:29 keystore

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   6520 2010-03-29 17:58 keystore_cli

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 kill -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  64184 2010-04-08 15:21 linker

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ln -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 log -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9760 2010-04-08 15:24 logcat

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9696 2010-04-08 15:21 logwrapper

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ls -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 lsmod -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5436 2010-04-11 15:42 mediaserver

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 mkdir -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    205 2010-03-16 18:42 monkey

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 mount -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26412 2010-04-08 15:29 mountd

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18244 2010-04-08 15:29 mtpd

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 mv -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5640 2010-04-08 15:30 netcfg

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 netstat -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 newfs_msdos -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 notify -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26652 2010-04-08 15:21 ping

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    191 2010-03-16 18:43 pm

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 143580 2010-04-08 15:29 pppd

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 printenv -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ps -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  13760 2010-04-08 15:29 qemud

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5516 2010-04-08 15:29 qemu-props

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 163160 2010-04-08 15:29 racoon

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5420 2010-04-08 15:29 radiooptions

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 reboot -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 301224 2010-04-08 15:21 recovery

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 renice -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5392 2010-04-08 15:21 retu-adc

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5628 2010-04-11 15:42 rild

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 rm -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 rmdir -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 rmmod -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 route -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5396 2010-04-08 15:21 schedtest

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 schedtop -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  50584 2010-04-08 15:24 sdptool

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9648 2010-04-11 15:42 sdutil

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 sendevent -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9852 2010-04-08 15:30 service

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   9856 2010-04-08 15:24 servicemanager

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 setconsole -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 setprop -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  86972 2010-04-08 15:21 sh

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  10716 2010-04-08 15:21 showlease

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 sleep -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 smd -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 start -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 stop -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5432 2010-04-11 15:42 surfaceflinger

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    192 2010-03-16 18:43 svc

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 sync -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5424 2010-04-11 15:42 system_server

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  73208 2010-04-08 15:28 toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 top -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  15984 2010-04-09 11:25 ts_calibrate

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  55540 2010-04-10 17:23 ts_harvest

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5412 2010-04-09 11:25 ts_print

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  28379 2010-04-10 17:23 ts_print_raw

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  52279 2010-04-10 17:23 ts_test

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 umount -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 247680 2010-04-08 15:21 updater

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 vmstat -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  39044 2010-04-08 15:29 vold

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 watchprops -> toolbox

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 wipe -> toolbox

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    300 2010-04-11 16:00 wlan_loader

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26676 2010-04-08 15:29 wpa_cli

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188768 2010-04-08 15:29 wpa_supplicant

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Now that Android on the n900 looks more possible than ever, I'm just curious what you guys think an ideal button map would be. It would be great if we could have the home, menu, and back button functional when in portrait (closed) mode.

I would love to keep the volume rocker dedicated to that, so that would leave the power button, camera button, (maybe) proximity sensor, and (maybe) the power switch.

What if we could use the camera button like it is with camerad... so when the camera was closed it could be a two way switch: click it half way and it would be menu and all the way in would be back? Then the power button could be home.

Thoughts?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Since the Milestone has similar hardware (Wifi/BT chip maybe ?) would it be helpful to check out if there's a kernel avaiable from one of the roms either the original 2.0.1 or the recently released 2.1 ?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

Quote:

Originally Posted by God_Lx (Post 652576)

I think DJ_Steve is using that. His firmware version in the youtube video was 2.1.

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Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 652575)

Im not used to using Andorid, but I think it would be very useful having important buttons in portrait with the keyboard shut.

I also think the volume rocker should be used as that,
I think the back button should be put on tapping the proximity sensor, the home button to power, and the menu to the camera while the lid is shut.

As i said i am not used to the feel of android so im not certain, but if the menu button i redundant, (if the functionally is always available on screen) it should be left out, so that it would only be power and camera all the way down to be used as physical buttons.

@DJ_Steve
I also read on wikipedia about user created hacks to add file support for files like flac and better microSD support, these hacks should be added if they are not (all in due time i know, im not asking that you work faster :P ) and i presume that the nitdroid is rooted?

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

the kernel im usin is my own custom one based off the original nokia one. rootfs is bdoggs first one with edits. my own android build wont boot yet (if someone can find out info on what problem androids having whenit keeps givin request_state_wake erros i think it was id appreciate it

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

perhaps this question sounds like stupid joke but...
if your AWESOME work bring us a fully operative android, can we add a customizable UI like the htc sense? is this even possible?

thanks for your hard work

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

dont see why not though sense not built for high res screen like n900.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

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Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 652689)

dont see why not though sense not built for high res screen like n900.

I'm not sure, but i think one would need to create a separate fw image with the default UI swapped with sinceUI. It would be awesome if one could hotswap UIs like with Gnome and KDE on a desktop.

Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic

ok anyone got any ideas what /dev node the cell modem works through on maemo ? or any way i can trace said