Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Or just remove the glib and gobject imports, sms.py does not use them.

Frank

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Guys...you're doing a GREAT JOB !!!

I'll test the application as soon I finish some urgent work and got the N900 fully upgraded to PR 1.2 (I can't flsh EMMC right now)...

PLEASE, if possible, add T9 imput. It is the best for vertical sms input and sometimes much faster than a full vertical keyboard. It is also much easyer to use with only one hand.
If Nokia were intelligent it should heve help guys like you and license T9 code to include in your app...since they didn't managed to do T9 for N900 :-(.
But if they won't please try to implement something similar (I hope there would be something around open source in Linux/Android OS)....of course with international language support (like Italian :-) )

Good work & greets from Italy.
SkyEagle

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

hey everyone,

I am testing the app and it is amazing! you guys have done an incredible job! we are all thankful!

i was thinking about something:
@Ossipena:PR 1.2 does bring portrait mode in email and conversation through autorotation. can you guys create a variant of your app which is simply a vertical qwerty with input space and a 'copy all'/delete all buttons. always open in the background, we would switch to it via multitasking, write our text, copy it with a single button, paste it to our email or conversation! without the 'send to' part in vertsms, we could actually afford to make the buttons bigger. we could also just add a 'copy all'/delete all button/function in vertsms and make it a one-stop app, but the qwerty would still be a tad small.

thank you even for reading! i wish i could finally take some time off and learn some programming myself...

you guys are the BEST for making us this!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

hi i installed it, write and send a message.. but the recipient doesnt receive the message...

the sms does not record in the normal conversations window ...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

So yeah, once again, I'm NOT ossipena so I am not strictly speaking on his behalf, but as a hobbyist programmer myself, I foresee the following problems with your request:

• The qwerty keyboard that exists was never in the scope of features intended for vertsms. In fact, it only exists because frals implemented it, pushed a merge request, and ossipena accepted it. That isn't to say that ossipena was incapable of creating it, but that he didn't.
• The point above means two things: first, that there probably won't be a horizontal keyboard "only" variant of this app, because this app was never focused on qwerty keyboards. second, that because the qwerty keyboard was introduced as a patch, it's easy enough to seperate the interface itself. input is a different story
• In order to allow email, etc to make use of the qwerty keyboard, they would need to have the interface connected to input events. IIRC modest is open source so it is technically possible, but I'm not sure if the others are
• As far as automatically starting it in the background, this would mean either being able to catch dbus events or similar in order to know when to open the program.

In summary, while I appreciate the enthusiasm, I'm not certain that the request itself is practical. Assuming it is, I'm not sure it belongs here. That is, it should be a separate program. Then again, I've been wrong on many occasions. for those interested, the code that handles the qwerty keyboard can be found here

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

two idea from me:

firstly is there anyway you can add a tab at the top of the messages (next to 'clear conversation' and ' open contact card') so we can run and use the application straight from a text being open.

Secondly is it possible to add a button that clears the previous text in just one click?

thank you

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Same for me, can someone tell what's wrong?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

I must see after summer (I have million things to do @work and @home so I unfortunately can't spare time for developing atm)

the problem is your operator. (or lack of features in vertsms, but with my operator I can use both TON -codes with newest vertsms and both work fine (regional numbers, for example 0401234567 and international, for example +358401234567).

I suggest you try to change the number from one to another (regional vs international) and see if it works.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

ossipena, just an idea. Being a native portuguese speaker, I usually write messages with accents. However, when you write a special character like "á", N900 (and every other phone I know) automatically switches from 7-bit to UTF-16, which is one of the allowed codifications supported by the SMS standard.

It's easy to spot when it happens and confuses many uses: the SMS composer shows something like '122 remaining characters' then it jumps to something like '31 remaining characters'. That's because with the 7-bit encoding you can have 160 characters in a message, while with the UTF-16 encoding you can have only 70.

However, reading the 3GPP docs, specifically section 6.2.1.2 of 23038 version 911 (the latest), I've noticed that there are many 7-bit extensions to national languages.

What do you think about implementing it on VertSMS, with a configuration option like 'econo-mode'? This would try and avoid the switch to 16-bit, reverting instead to the appropriate 7-bit extension table for the national language of the user. This would greatly expand his/her capacity to type and would mean many savings, specially for that people who send something like 300, 400 SMS a day.

This would greatly differentiate the N900 from other phones. I know of no phone that currently does that.

I am about to make some experiments with that, including a test with the portuguese 7-bit encoding to see if the SMS centers in my country support it.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

bump this thread. :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Checked as you advised: Regional numbers work but international don't. Alas, I store all my contacts in Int'l format as I travel often :( but this doesn't cause problem with Conversations or FastSMS, only for VertSMS.
Maybe it's the operator ( vodafone Turkey) or maybe it's something in your codes. You better check.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

are your contacts in +.... format?

because vertsms recognizes the + char in front and changes TON=1 (=international) which should work if there are no custom configurations in operators end. if you dont use the plus, that might explain things.

and I still have no time for doing anything to the code unfortunately. I'll see after things settle down probably after august.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Just tried it and I can't keep it becuase of 3 reasons.

1. Doesn't go to conversation list.
2. The message and number you entered doesn't remove after sending message.
3. Most importantly, I don't want to keep going to the app to send a message. It would be great for the app to launch when you click on the persons name through conversation after putting the phone in potriat mode while the physical keyboard is closed.

Nice job though.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

this is much better than fastsms thanks :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

bump found out that all the messages that i've sent even though they do appear at the conversions box, they aren't really being sent :P

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

And dont forget the swedish letters ÅÄÖ, and ofc all other countrys special letters. Else its useles to others then english people.

otherwise I like it, and that its not T9 is best (dont like T9).

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Installed the application but crashes at startup. I installed the Russian version and it works fine (only downside I don't read cyrillic ;))

Where can I start to find out what is wrong? Strange thing; I uninstalled it and I had to uninstall Stopwatch too (they had some similair pakkage I guess) After installing both I tried reinstalling Stopwatch, but it could not install anymore.....any help advice appriciated!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

probably a broken python dependency. app manager logs could be useful.

I finally got some time to think how to overcome the sending problems of some operators. I probably try to write a command line app for sms sending in Qt and remove whole sms sending with dbus from python code entirely.

and if I get the sms sending application working, I might make a daemon version from it which could intercept messages and get those opened in vertsms. but that is really far away for now.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

as said million times before, 1 and 3 depends either from nokia or a really dirty hack.... and with 2 there hopefully will be settings for such behaviour.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

awesome! just sent my first message via QtMobility! thanks to PySide guys for getting bindings to python.

So messages not going through -problem is probably solved as soon as I publish ssms (utility to send smses via command line) and modify vertsms to use it when sending messages.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

one more bug i haven't seen reported: vert sms creates a separate thread under conversations.

in essence, you have two threads for one person; one for sms sent via the normal landscape mode, one for sms sent with vert sms (which in it's current state, vert sms is not sending messages to anyone, so i have a thread of unsent messages).

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Came across this app the other day and wow, it's really nicely done. Will be particularly useful when sending an SMS while on the move or when only one hand is free.

Only problem I have is with it failing to send SMS in some cases and not knowing how I can change the virtual keys to upper case. Any ideas? Hope this is still being developed as it's an excellent little app.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

any news/updates? :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

I cant get it to send sms. Everything works fine, T9 would be a bouns, and smilleys, but at the moment my main bug bear is that I send the message, get the sending message flash up, but then a few seconds later the failed sendin message flashes up

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

I should get my device from repair this week. I have a working code for improved sms sending (uses official api, not dirty dbus tricks) so when I get time to modify the code and hopefully get mohammadag to repackage the stuff up. Unfortunately no smileys etc coming but anyone who knows how to do it can make a copy of my repository on git and send merge reguests, package his version etc....

e: I am still renovating my home and it takes a lot from my time at the moment.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Thanks for update ossipena - fully understand, RL takes priority. Just glad to know you are still working on this app, top man.
Cheers.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

I got (hopefully) fully functional version pushed to gitorious. I'll ask MohammadAG if he would be so kind to package it. If not, I must start practising the packagin stuff (I really should do that) and try to upload a new version to extras-devel hopefully this week.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Hi!
I wanted to try the new version, but i think there is a missing dependencies or something.

Attachment 14110

Now working! will it be hard to inplant åäö for us in Sweden?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

new version doesnt start... :-(

PD: 100th post!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

yes MohammadAG was kind enough to package the thing but it is really messed with deps at the moment.

try installing pyside-qt4 and pyside-mobility and tell me if it helps. I hopefully can get it cleanet a lot and deps into some reasonable state. That version is just for testing the sms sending part, please try to get dependencies in order manually.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Now its working. Need to install "PyQt4 Full Install"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Actually, I added another package (python2.5-qt4-core) to the deplist in 0.7-1, update the repos and try again, sorry I can't test this stuff, I have all pyqt4 and pyside packages installed.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

I got the update notification early this morning but haven't been able to test it yet - will let you know how it went later. :)
Thanks for the update.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

got it working now.. thanks!! very useful when i am driving...

hope in the next version, after the message was sent, the content will be automatically erased because i have to manually delete it before i could write a new text...

thanks again

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

hey...

just a basic question... just downloaded the vertsms recently... i think it is the latest version... i.e. 0.7-1. How come the qwerty option isn't available?

Do i have to activate it somewhere else?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

This application begins to like.

"You can add text prediction? Like the N900 system

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

it was dropped mainly because of åäö -issues. I am still struggling with qtmobility and åäö btw. hopefully a workaround will be found so I can bring qwerty back and add missing characters to the 123 -keypad

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

i see... keep up the good work.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

Thanks for you keep struggling with that and not giving it up.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 

any chance of this becoming system wide, like portrait keyboard which seems to have ceased development?

Also, what about the option of t9 or qwerty like previous nokias had? sometimes one is more convenient than the other so if both are developed for this app could it have an icon to switch between the two?