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Is there a README that explains where all the config files are and what the general option for them are? I looked on the site and did not see one.

Also, can xkbd work on OS2008? I see .debs for 2006 & 2007. If not, what are the keyboard options for 2008 (N800)?

edit: on further review I see the 2006 & 2007 debs are for the libraries that those OS' need, but I still am not sure if xkbd will work with 2008


Sorry if these have been answered before, but a search didn't come up with good answers.

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The dosbox.conf file is in /usr/share/dosbox/ at least for me it is, I've been editing it on my PC then copying it onto my card then dragging from the mmc card using emelFM2 File manager to drag from the card to the dosbox directory and replacing it, I've been trying different options within the conf file all day.

And the Xkbd does work with the 2008os, takes a few thousand (not really) files installed to get it working, but it does work. Also you will need to use it in caps lock mode so it works, some sort of glitch in this release isn't completely compatible for 08 I guess. So yes it does work, I'm using it right now, and finally I understand mounting in dosbox.

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Fire up!

Now I don't have to learn me Linux and can remain stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid. :D

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I would love to get Win 3.11 running. I would want the TCP stack, Win32s, and some basic (for this century) apps like the last Mozilla browser capable of running on good old 3.11 and a Word doc reader. I read about your attempts to get Win98 running on another DOS emulator, so I've scaled back my expectations to what I've listed above.

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I need to play around with DOSBox some more this weekend.

For future reference ...

Netscape Navigator 4.0.7 for Win16: http://browsers.evolt.org/?navigator/16bit/4.07

Last Microsoft Win32s version 1.30c: http://ftp.urc.ac.ru/pub/OS/Windows/...ICQ/pw1118.exe

TCP/IP-32 3.11b for Windows for Workgroups: http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...-us/tcp32b.exe

Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0.1 (LOL): http://browsers.evolt.org/download.p...5.01/ie501.zip

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Dosbox is pretty sweet. I can run the old digital paint 2 on it and even autodest animator pro. However the pointer in animator pro won't calibrate for me but the calibration method works for dpaint 2.
Is there another way to calibrate the pointer?

Also, does anyone remember the adult answers to the beginning of LSL3?;)

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The beginning of this LSL3 FAQ tells you all you need to know:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/dos...e/565082/14029

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Calibration doesn't work for me in any application so far. It is interesting though that while the apps I've tried are starting a normal cursor shows and tracks perfectly until the app cursor appears, from that point the stylus moves the cursor with a strange offset. If I start in the top left corner of the screen and move toward the bottom right the cursor moves further and further ahead of the stylus until it sticks in the corner, then repeats in reverse if I go back to the top left. It is like the cursor position needs to be downscaled to the DOS applications screen resolution?

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Announcing ukki's Rubybox! It is a dosbox frontend written in Ruby that allows you to launch games with the stylus, and to set up game/program profiles with customized dosbox options.

http://pupnik.de/RubyBox_001.jpg

Why do you want this? DOSbox games responsivieness varies greatly with the configuration options, and manually creating different profiles for each is time-consuming and error-prone.

To set up a new game. Select 'New game', Enter a title in the top box and click 'Browse' and select the dos application you want to launch. Save the configuration then click on the game and select 'Run' to launch it.

To change settings, select a game, select 'Game settings', click on the setting you want to change and then click on the value. Type in the new value and hit save. For example, in the above screenshot I changed the dosbox machine type from vga to "tandy" because Ultima 5 doesn't use vga colors and runs a lot smoother with a tandy adapter.

Rubybox requires two ruby packages:
ruby1.8
ruby1.8-maemo
To install these on OS2008, click on the following link to the .install file for the GPL Systems Repository (repository containing ruby) then in application manager go to the section 'programming' and install the ruby packages.

http://gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=216

http://pupnik.de/rubybox_0.1.deb

Rubybox was made for you! Go into game settings: basic settings and select sdl sensitivity. Change the value from 100 to 200, hit save, and try the game again. The value divided by 100 is the mouse scaling factor, i.e. 100 = 1.0, 200 = 2.0 times mouse speed.
(edit) If you have OS2007 please let us know if the Rubybox deb installs, and where to find ruby packages for it :)

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Joy!

You posted this just in time!

This should make good use on my trip to Florida tomorrow.

You sir, deserve a salute!

Sir, yes sir!!!!

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This is HUGE! Wow, this makes it so much simpler running DOS games. Set them up the way you want them, and then you've got a menu to run them....nice! I like being able to have a different mapper.txt file too based on the game. Some of those old DOS games don't let you reconfigure keys within the game so this will make it much easier to have a unique mapper.txt file for that game (especially useful for N800 users like me when I don't have my bluetooth keyboard handy).

I do have questions concerning the Basic and Advanced settings area. Are all those settings that are shown the settings that are in the default dosbox.conf file? Do I only have to enable the ones that I want to change from what is shown, or do I have to check the enable box to turn on the setting that is shown? I'm guessing I only need to check the enable box for changes, but I just wanted to be sure.

All in all, very nice. Thank you!!! :cool:

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Yes. Especially for those pesky function-keys.

And it should be possible to fix dos keymaps for different N810 keyboard language layouts. This seems to be a missing feature in the OS2008 libSDL1.2 but I'm not sure. If anyone makes a mapper.txt fixup for their N810 keyboard please post here.

Yes. Yes.

Hopefully this will also make it easier for people to share discoveries about which settings work best for particular games and share them over in the tweaks thread:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=15459

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any tips for running old 3d fps like heretic ,duke3d or rott?

I can run them with rubybox but not much better than in dosbox.. vga looks nicer.. but still totally lagged

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Thanks for the info. I'm already testing settings flipping in and out of games. Very quick and easy.

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What exactly is ruby? What is installed with the above packages?

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Ruby is an interpreted programming language like Python (well not like Python, but of a similar type as Python ;)). When you install the above it installs the frontend program and the interpreter to run it on.

Thanks for the script! I already had sensitivity set to 200, which I guess was the problem. Now I'll be able to figure out the right sensitivity per game. (Also why is it called sensitivity if it is actually the coordinate scale factor?)

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So, did you try any of those browsers under DosBox yet? What's the experience like? Is it even possible to get TCP/IP networking up and running?

And now that we have RubyBox, could you (anyone) post the ideal settings for Win3.11?

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I haven't tried it yet. I hoped someone else would. :p

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox

"Network emulation: A component that differentiates DOSBox from other emulators is its ability to simulate peer-to-peer or Internet/Intranet networking. This includes modem simulation over TCP/IP, allowing for DOS modem games to be played over modern LANs or the Internet, and IPX network tunneling, which allows for old IPX DOS multiplayer games to be played as UDP/IP over modern LANs or the Internet."

Thanks for the RubyBox Arnim! I downloaded it last night within minutes, then went to sleep. Still have to try it out tonight. :)

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So real quick here.

What are we supposed to use for a virtual keyboard?

I tried using Xkbd but it behaved like a spastic monkey. :eek:

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A spastic monkey on banana crack? :rolleyes:

That's just it ... xkbd is "broken" on OS 2008, so a BT keyboard or N810 is kind of required, though I guess even those aren't perfect on DOSBox.

If the Matchbox keyboard could be minimized, it might suffice.

I've been considering going back to OS 2007 again to be able to use xkbd with the emulator(s). (But I would really miss Evince.)

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Xkbd seems to work much better for me when Dosbox isn't in full screen mode, but it doesn't work for everything. So when some of the keys of Xkbd don't work in the DOS program I'm using, then I pull up Xvkbd and that seems to work. I dislike Xvkbd since it uses the entire screen and I have to maximize & minimize with it all the time and that sucks, but I use whatever works. As far as Matchbox goes, I had to uninstall it since it was screwing with my browser for some reason.....links wouldn't work and text selection was whacky too.

Oh if Xkbd would work in OS2008, it would be the icing on the cake for Dosbox. I'm sure it will be fixed eventually, and hopefully it'll be soon.

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You shouldn't worry much longer, I heard that OSEmuTech is all over this! :)

Oh, and speaking of the devil incarnate, where have you been?

I've got Evince working like fluffy cake on 2008 OS. I've been using it to review Guyton and Gangong (two of the best medical books in the world) for a few days now.

All I needed was the Evince install file. I didn't have to bother with even a single dependency such as winrar, winzip, libpop, etc....

Dude, you are seriously beginning to creep me out about brain.

I thought you were one of the smart guys here. :D

Anyway, I don't remember which file I used, but if one doesn't work, the other one will get you there the whole way through.
Attachment 1036
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Well, don't expect to hear from me again for at least a week.

Viva Las Disney World on spring break!

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Just want to say a huge thank you to all involved in this. Installed this last night and got Outrun working with no changes required. xkbd seems temperamental with the keys not mapping correctly sometimes but a reboot fixes that. Running this on the N800/OS2008.

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Wow! Incredible. Thanks for the effort put into this.
Haven't played around with the settings but I was able to play Dangerous Dave (dave.exe) with a bluetooth keyboard.
FYI, I was able to type Function keys from my iGo keyboard by holding down the blue function key and pressing A = F1, S = F2 and so on along the row.

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I just got an iGo and was wondering how to do that. You saved me from searching the forum. Thanks! :)

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qole wrote...

Applications that I've tested and work:

• Microsoft Macro Assembler (MASM) 6.11d
• Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (mouse has problems releasing windows)
• Microsoft C 6.0
• Maplesoft Maple V5 3.0

[/QUOTE]

Well I just installed Win 3.11 on my N810 and it's running well. It took a long time but gave no real errors during setup :). Not installed anything else under Windows yet.

Main problem is no mouse. I have an iGo Bluetooth keyboard and a gradually fading memory of all the old keystroke commands. But we really need a mouse to take advantage of the O/S.

Hey qole, what mouse did you use? How did you install? how did you physically connect it? Did you have a keyboard running at the same time? What is your social security number? (just kidding)

Now lets see if I can load a newer version of Windows and an old version of Pro Engineer !!!

BTW, I can run AutoCad 2002 under rDesktop tho the drawing area is so small due to the real estate taken by the menus and icons.

Well I'm a happy camper tonight. Cheers all.

Derek

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Does anyone feel like testing WordPerfect 5.1 (or sixOh!) in that dossy box?

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Turbo C++ version 1.01 is freely available from http://dn.codegear.com/museum/antiquesoftware.

It installed just fine and I was able to compile some simple programs with it using the IDE. Touchscreen is accurate enough for the character-based UI:

http://www.nbl.fi/~nbl928/borland_tcpp101.png

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New dosbox release at http://pupnik.de/dosbox.html. I bundled Addison/OSEmuTech's vertical/left-hand-side keyboard map. You can now change the .xkbd map by editing /usr/bin/dosboxkbd to point to whatever .xkbd layoutfile and -geometry positioning you want.

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Extra nice! Another thank you! :cool:

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Yeah! I reflashed my N800 with OS 2008 this morning to test the new xkbd out. My fingers are crossed that the new version works better for those of us who have problems with the older version on OS 2008.

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where can i get new version of xkbd? os2008
thanks

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The new version of xkbd is here: http://pupnik.de/xkbd_0.8.15m-2_armel.deb
The new version of DOSBox is here: http://pupnik.de/chinook/dosbox_0.72-0.2_armel.deb

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thanks, but libxpm4 is required.. i'll try to find it
edit: i found it on http://pupnik.de/ but its not compatible with n800&os2008 (i download 2008 version)

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Great. You need to install the libxpm4 package using Red Pill Mode.

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Excellent!!!

I'm grinning like crazy over this awesome new build!!! :D

Only one comment to make on this though.

The specific size of my custom keyboard now requires it to be launched like this:
xkbd -geometry +0+0 -k /media/mmc2/x.xkbd

That way it fits perfectly, but Xkbd won't accept that as an argument.

xkbd -geometry -1-1 -k /media/mmc2/x.xkbd and
xkbd -geometry +1+1 -k /media/mmc2/x.xkbd

these both offset the display by a single pixel so it doesn't fit perfectly like it could.

Is there any possibility to remove that part in the source code where it won't allow the "-geometry +0+0" command?

Sorry if this request is sounding incredibly anal. I'm certainly more than grateful on how far this project has come. I honestly couldn't be more happy right now. :)

Also OSEmutech's keyboard would look a little better as well too if it were to be launched from the starting point of X=0.

Anyway, awesome, awesome stuff ArnimS!

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I did check xkbd.c to see if it was preventing acceptance of a 0 offset, but it isn't. It passes the geometry values straight to the X server with the command.

XParseGeometry(geometry, &xret, &yret, &wret, &hret );

So xkbd isn't rejecting the 0 offset, the X server itself is. Why that happens is beyond me. Sorry.

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If this keeps up I'll be writing QuickBasic programs for the tablets!

:D

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Wonderful! Please install Win32s, TCP/IP stack, and Netscape (as referenced earlier in this thread). I'm simply DYING to know if they work and are usable, as are not a few others, I think!

Hey Derek,

That wasn't me, it was OSEmuTech. I've been waiting for someone else to get this working first before I go chasing rainbows. I've spent a lot of time lately installing and configuring stuff, only to find that I just can't get it working...

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Oh hey ArnimS! Thanks for the quick response!

Well, this is probably an overbearing, petty request, but would it be possible to release a 2nd version of Xkbd for anal people like myself?

I was thinking of changing the source code to something like removing the whole geometry option and making it so that the keyboard always launches from a static position of 0,0.

I doubt you'll find this to be something of interest for you to do.

But hey, you know me, I just had to ask. :D