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crsnwby 2010-07-01 17:15

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Originally Posted by Viipottaja (Post 737441)
Well it has multi-touch.. ;)

ohhhhhhhhhhhh..........:)

crsnwby 2010-07-01 17:15

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Originally Posted by ZShakespeare (Post 737454)
The N900 doesn't have multi-touch though.

ahhhhhhhhhhh.....:mad:

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 17:27

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I saw a video once of a cell phone that let you "place a marker" on the screen and the use your finger to zoom based on it's position with the marker. Kinda like an emulated multitouch. We could probably so something like that.

Heman1310 2010-07-01 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZShakespeare (Post 737477)
I saw a video once of a cell phone that let you "place a marker" on the screen and the use your finger to zoom based on it's position with the marker. Kinda like an emulated multitouch. We could probably so something like that.

Yes. For instance you can place one finger on the proximity sensor and swipe your other finger across the screen to do a "fake" multitouch.

etuoyo 2010-07-01 17:55

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No home screen? I would really really hate that like crazy. The thing I love most about the N900 (apart from Conboy Notes) is the ability to have four desktops and put four different pictures of my baby boy as wallpaper and put any widgets and short cuts anywhere I want.

Although the fact my media player widget play button doesn't work and that my widgets keep disappearing does reduce the usefuleness of widgets but with someone other than Nokia involved I am more confident the widgets on meego would work.

Brunorange 2010-07-01 18:35

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Hmm, looks meh! Numbers on dialpad too small, icons too small for that screen size (and only 3 rows... I want/like/they could easily fit 4 = more stuff to quick launch)

ScottishDuck 2010-07-01 19:18

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Currently a ubiimg build is ~512MB

Do not hold your breath on meego ever working as a primary OS on n900.

shreif 2010-07-01 19:26

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sorry noob here i wonder if i flash this image will the current software of my phone still be there? or will i have to re flash it again after using meego ?:D

fahadj2003 2010-07-01 19:28

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Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 737701)
Currently a ubiimg build is ~512MB

Do not hold your breath on meego ever working as a primary OS on n900.

how did u know?
it says aroung 178 mbs in the download repo

fatalsaint 2010-07-01 19:30

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Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 737715)
how did u know?
it says aroung 178 mbs in the download repo

The new build from 1.1 pre-release is just a small .ks file. You have to completely build your own.

If you build a ubiimg it is 500+MB in size. The maximum the N900 internal flash can hold is 256MB.

So there is definitely going to be issues getting MeeGo with the full UI loaded into the flash memory of the N900. Which is unfortunate.

If it ever gets stable enough to truly use, whats likely going to happen is we'll have to install it to the internal 32GB SD or keep it on an External and just do a permanent kernel flash that boots from SD.

EverythingBlaxx 2010-07-02 06:43

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Originally Posted by Parody (Post 737036)
I know it's pre-alpha, but here are some things that bothered me right off the bat:
http://i50.tinypic.com/19nhhu.png

1: the menu button looks as if none of the maemo 5 minimalism carried over (which is odd, because judging from some other icons it appears that it has)

2: I'm not liking the card system of switching apps, the thumbnails from Maemo 5 worked just fine, although I've heard that will also be an option which doesn't make it so bad. I guess it's nice to have different options.

3: So much redundant space! I wish the text was closer to the icons and that they were 4x4 (or maybe even 4x5), also I really dislike the iPhone styled scrolling, it just makes very little sense.

4: Personally, I liked slide-to-unlock more but anyways, the position of the icon looks a bit uncomfortable although I've seen that it will be on the bottom as well. Other than personal preference, I think this is actually ok.

Anyways, it's pre-alpha so most of this will be improved, so while I know I'm basically complaining about how the unfinished product is unfinished, I wanted to say something anyway. If I take the unfinished state of this into consideration, then it's pretty obvious that MeeGo will actually end up looking totally rad.

Sorry for the TL;DR rant :P

The iPhone styled side-scrolling actually makes a lot of sense. I easily have over 90 menu items on my N900 and it's a lot easier to see 12 menu items at a time than having to scroll up and down til I find what I want

Turkishflavor 2010-07-02 06:56

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no panorama-desktops anymore? too bad :(

n900faniam 2010-07-02 07:15

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I think for the typical n900 user who needs the phone to keep working in a normal state its probably worth waiting for the enhanced and more stable release in Oct.

beta testing an entirely new os on your primary handset is probably not a good idea.

Rock on meego developers! cant wait till the 1.1 release in oct

zifis 2010-07-02 11:34

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I really don't see what the fuss is all about...

Is it about the look of the UI & desktop? that's really subjective...

Is it about functionality and app accessibility? I can already access anything in my n900 with a tap ...

Is it about better power management and performance? My n900 runs at least 48 hours with music, browsing, calls and gaming...

Is it about customization? I make my own wallpapers, never seen screen shots of desktops with the same button-shortcut-widget-contact arrangement. No N900 is exactly the same as another...

Is it about connectivity and compatibility? Never had any issue connecting or transferring or synchronizing with my pc, notebook or other mobile devices. Wifi never failed to cennect and I have downloaded torrents as fast as 1.1 Mb/sec

Is it about media playing? Especially now that shake2control is out, I can't get enough of it. Will you really ever watch 1080p movies on your phone? The screen can't give you more than 800X480 wake T F up!

After all, all hi tech gadgets are today's breakthrough and tomorrow's old news. Haven't you figured that out yet?

So really, what is all the fuss about?

Ayle 2010-07-02 15:55

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 737718)
The new build from 1.1 pre-release is just a small .ks file. You have to completely build your own.

If you build a ubiimg it is 500+MB in size. The maximum the N900 internal flash can hold is 256MB.

So there is definitely going to be issues getting MeeGo with the full UI loaded into the flash memory of the N900. Which is unfortunate.

If it ever gets stable enough to truly use, whats likely going to happen is we'll have to install it to the internal 32GB SD or keep it on an External and just do a permanent kernel flash that boots from SD.

And what's wrong with putting the OS in the eMMC? From booting nitdroid and using it on a class 2 microSD I think the benefits of the oneNAND are kinda overrated IMHO.

sjgadsby 2010-07-02 16:09

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Originally Posted by Ayle (Post 738711)
And what's wrong with putting the OS in the eMMC?

It's slower. However, from what Nokia has said on the mailing lists, they're working on minimizing that slowdown so Harmattan can use eMMC for its rootfs. Presumably, the fruits of that labor will be available for MeeGo-on-N900 developers to use, so the N900 should suffer no performance hit from using eMMC beyond that which affects all other MeeGo offerings.

ScottishDuck 2010-07-02 19:01

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Progress.

http://imgur.com/Nvi29.png

Current status: cutting fat off, no functionality lost.

fahadj2003 2010-07-02 22:53

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can someone upload the flashable image?
i dont know how to create one :(

weißelstone 2010-07-03 16:11

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Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 738901)
Current status: cutting fat off, no functionality lost.

FAT support or just fat like fat people?

fahadj2003 2010-07-07 05:47

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any update?
can the device get ota updates when new software features like telepathy support arrives or do we have to reflash?
anyone found out anything new?

fatalsaint 2010-07-07 06:50

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Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 743305)
any update?
can the device get ota updates when new software features like telepathy support arrives or do we have to reflash?
anyone found out anything new?

Its no where near this level. There is hardly working wifi and no cellular modem drivers for the N900 at this point.

fahadj2003 2010-07-07 06:54

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but october is too far :(

faraon 2010-07-12 16:32

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Could someone please clarify for me, do we have meego HANDSET sdk at the moment? I downloaded sdk from meego site, but it has netbook simulator inside. So, can I start to develop for meego smartphones somehow?

Thanks.

-Aleksandr

EverythingBlaxx 2010-07-12 18:20

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Originally Posted by faraon (Post 749375)
Could someone please clarify for me, do we have meego HANDSET sdk at the moment? I downloaded sdk from meego site, but it has netbook simulator inside. So, can I start to develop for meego smartphones somehow?

Thanks.

-Aleksandr

Not yet. Closest thing we got is Qt SDK

ScottishDuck 2010-07-13 17:00

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http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/t....1-raw.tar.bz2

This DOESNT CONTAIN ANY CLOSED BITS, so it won't work very well.

realceday 2010-07-19 17:25

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Latest build.

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/t....1-raw.tar.bz2

venkat_i22 2010-07-28 08:29

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hi all,

i haven't gone though entire post...??
quick questions

1. Does portrait mode support virtual keyboard
2. do we have video-call (mainly over 3G directly from phone)
3. does it support flash10.
4 how does this OS gel with dual boot on Nokia n900
5. does it support multitasking.....

attila77 2010-07-28 08:47

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Just to avoid confusion - MeeGo has nothing to do with Flash, Skype and sorts - they are not, and hopefully never be part of MeeGo (just as they aren't part of Debian). Actual releases made by vendors will of course include whatever the vendor thinks it's important, but MeeGo, as a base, only includes Free software.

PS. also, 'supports flash 10' is misleading, as one could say Maemo 5 (being proper linux and all) already supports flash 10, it's just that you can't download it from anywhere.

fahadj2003 2010-07-28 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by realceday (Post 756960)

cant download it :S

yamakasi 2010-07-31 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 735774)
Well! I was waiting for this the whole day today.

I hope you guys post pictures/video of this thing running on N900 asap :)

i don't know if someone has posted this already but, there you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtQsO...eature=related


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