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somekeystrokes 2010-08-30 11:12

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 801995)
5. Actual formatting
mkdosfs /dev/mmcblk1p1
mke2fs -L NITDroid -j -m0 /dev/mmcblk1p2

Entering the last line gives me an error saying "The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?"

whre could have i gone wrong?

geneven 2010-08-30 11:15

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zikmir (Post 802008)
some one put a dam video for 2gb memory card so we (new people) can follow like kids... i really dont know what x TERMINAL is ?????????????????

You could save question marks and type x terminal in google, which is often used to search on the Internet.

marktold 2010-08-30 12:32

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 802132)
When downloading just choose /home/user/MyDocs in the pop up window of the download screen. Tap on the arrow in the left corner untill you're at the N900 directory and then choose that. N900 and /home/user/MyDocs is the same directory ;) It's named the first in the directory browser on the phone and the latter in xterm.

Find the location of the file and move it to N900, Just tap and hold and then choose 'move' and then choose directory the same way as when downloading ;)

Then do the commands in my other post :)

OK on step further but this is not streight forward hassle free as expected.

Following errors did show up

need rootsh >= 1.8 installed 1.5 I assume the only place I got rootsh from is extra devel and downloaded it today.

multiboot >= 0.2.10 needed not installed

multiboot kernen >) 0.3 needed not installed

bzip2 > not installed

Well either the guide telling me that the installatinon is a snap is wrong or assuming a lot of software allready on the N900. If this is so then it should be marked as requirement.

At the moment it seems my phone screems that it does not want NitDroid on it.

Markus

marktold 2010-08-30 12:41

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
rootsh was available for update now so I should be on 1.8

Application Manager now shows the NITDroid as an update but tells me:

To update your device to this version of the operating system you must use Nokia PC Suite on your PC. Connect the device to your PC via USB cable and launch the applicatoin. (Create Backup button)

Is this how it should be?

Markus

marktold 2010-08-30 13:02

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
@Dousan

Downloaded the 0.2.7 now I thinkg I am a bit further (ignoring my phone which said not to it in any possible way)

Now I did not go into the formating (stopped befor at the exe 3) no it sais its downloading NitDroid_N900-the-flying-world.tbz2

This will take rather a long time was the message at the beginning. Can you tell me how big the files are so I know what to expect in order to find out if it is doing something or hanging .

Markus

Dousan 2010-08-30 13:09

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 802232)
rootsh was available for update now so I should be on 1.8

Application Manager now shows the NITDroid as an update but tells me:

To update your device to this version of the operating system you must use Nokia PC Suite on your PC. Connect the device to your PC via USB cable and launch the applicatoin. (Create Backup button)

Is this how it should be?

Markus

No thats not right it should just work like any other app and get updated via app mngr.

If you follow these steps from this link Hfirst post) it tells you how to and what to and what is needed:
http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=84.0

I'm not sure how long you got in the intalling process? Did you finnish?

marktold 2010-08-30 13:14

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
@Dousan at least 5 minutes on the the-flying-world.tbz2 file nothing happening. nidroid-manifest was done in seconds before that.

Markus grrh. I think I will regret this ;-)

marktold 2010-08-30 13:23

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
@Dousan
After 12 Minutes it seems to go on with installin. Now Extracting the .....the-flying-world.tbz2.

Let's see if this turns to an good end after all. Thanks for the help so far.

Markus

Dousan 2010-08-30 13:26

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 802250)
@Dousan

Downloaded the 0.2.7 now I thinkg I am a bit further (ignoring my phone which said not to it in any possible way)

Now I did not go into the formating (stopped befor at the exe 3) no it sais its downloading NitDroid_N900-the-flying-world.tbz2

This will take rather a long time was the message at the beginning. Can you tell me how big the files are so I know what to expect in order to find out if it is doing something or hanging .

Markus

I think it's about 85mb compressed or something like that... If you have conky installed you can open that and see the internet traffic if you feel nothing is happening ;)

e: Well good to hear, then you're allmost there ;)

marktold 2010-08-30 13:26

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Got a message that installation was ok and that I can reboot with keyboard open to boot into NITdroid.

Is this how it will be. Open keyboard NITdroid, closed keyboard maemo?

Markus

Dousan 2010-08-30 13:31

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 802268)
Got a message that installation was ok and that I can reboot with keyboard open to boot into NITdroid.

Is this how it will be. Open keyboard NITdroid, closed keyboard maemo?

Markus

No in the new version of multiboot you have to choose what to boot into, it wont automatically boot maemo if KB is slide closed...

Good luck with booting NITdroid and have fun :D

NvyUs 2010-08-30 16:44

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
be careful b/c since installing nitdroid when charging with maemo booted its stopped recognizing when battery is full and acts like its charging forever, i get no green led and its just flashing orange with battery icon charging even though i have full battery.
i've even tested a second battery to make sure my battery did not have a defect and still get same result

marktold 2010-08-30 18:01

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
a) got it finally running
b) wefi seems to disconect often, could e my router
c) like maemo a whole heap better.
d) Numbers do not work in virtual keyboard
e) wrong keyboard layout - need Swiss

How do I acess Menu to get more options in an app?

It will be cool to show off at friends who are weiting for froyo.

Markus

istarskyypsilon 2010-08-30 18:09

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I am really looking forward to use Droid on my N900 and today i saw a 4gb class 4 microSD hc hanging around in the store. I thought thats the sign to finally install NITDroid.

Well, what i did so far:

Inserted the microSD and followed this instructions.

It hung up while formating the sd with ext3. So i checked out the "Solution to the installer problem with formatting ext3" found here.

I removed the first autoinstaller and then installed the ext3 fixed one.

Starting it with "nitdroid-installer" again. it started downlading the NITDroid-N900-the-flying-world.tbz2 file but it never finished and moved on to the next file. I have good wireless connection. Conky showed download of data.

But it didnt start to download the other files. So i restarted the device and tried the whole process again. This time it went through formatting fine. Then it downloaded the other files and installed NITDroid.

I was told to reboot and did so, but no bootmenu showed up. When i power the device it just boots maemo automatically, like if i had never installed nitdroid.

Does anyone have had a similar experience and maybe an idea how to solve it?

Should i format my sd card manually and retry the installation process? How to check in maemo if NITDroid has been installed correctly?

Thanks guys. I really hope i will get NITDroid running!

rolan900d 2010-08-30 18:13

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Ever since I installed the kernel-power option and choose the power kernel on the multiboot screen, my batterygraph states it is constantly running around 50%...
So the juice in my battery is draining rapidly...
When I choose the normal maemo boot (option 1) the drainage stops but then i can't overclock...

Am I the only one or did I do something wrong?

yorg 2010-08-30 18:28

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 801495)
Just installed some great free apps and games from Android market!
It just feels like a new cell!
Great stuff

How the hell do we close running apps in Android?
I saw that the camera button switches back to menu..
But how to close running apps ??????

By the way, running from mmc warms the cell a bit!

haha welcome to android! :)

download the advanced task killer if you want to "close" apps.

otherwise the OS just puts them into sleep mode which some say is fine

rolan900d 2010-08-30 18:32

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Yeah.....

i have found how to do it!
The slide button wich you use to open screen and close screen does that ..(the one between to riht speaker and headset jack plugin

andrewfblack 2010-08-30 19:34

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I see alot of questions here that I'm not going to take time to answer like how to open menu, etc. Just going to say if you take the time to read the nitdroid wiki/faq all your questions will be answered.

xuggs 2010-08-30 19:45

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudstrife1ph (Post 801981)
i thought this is froyo? i tried youtube and it redirects me to the mobile site. i can't play the videos either...:(

some people said it has flash 10 in the early parts of this thread...

You can install flash 10.1 from the Extras folder. Once you are in nitdroid, use a file manager like IO File Manager and click on the home icon. Get in the Extras folder and you will see an adobe flash apk file. This is not the final version of 10.1 but it is out. I have it installed on nitdroid. You will find the apk on the nitdroid forum.

rolan900d 2010-08-30 19:53

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 802472)
Ever since I installed the kernel-power option and choose the power kernel on the multiboot screen, my batterygraph states it is constantly running around 50%...
So the juice in my battery is draining rapidly...
When I choose the normal maemo boot (option 1) the drainage stops but then i can't overclock...

Am I the only one or did I do something wrong?

I am kinda hoping this question won't get lost in here.....

Does anybody out here know what I could change?

geneven 2010-08-30 19:53

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 802259)
@Dousan at least 5 minutes on the the-flying-world.tbz2 file nothing happening. nidroid-manifest was done in seconds before that.

Markus grrh. I think I will regret this ;-)

Five minutes is nothing. It takes a long time.

Your pessimism is wrong. I didn't find it slightly dangerous. It didn't work for me at first, but it didn't hurt anything. I had to go read a book for awhile.

I personally had to reflash first to get it to work. To me, that's no big deal. Before I reflashed, I tried without reflashing about five times, each time waiting a long time, till my device said "bailing out". After it bailed out I stopped waiting, of course.

geneven 2010-08-30 20:02

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 802577)
I am kinda hoping this question won't get lost in here.....

Does anybody out here know what I could change?

Your battery graph still works while you are running Android? Interesting; I wonder how it does that.

The battery usage is flaky at this point. I usually have charge my battery with an external charger. With this, I had to charge with the N900 itself until it went green. Then when I booted Nitdroid all was well. So I could MOSTLY till charge with the external charger -- it only seemed to care if it was topped up with the N900 itself.

Edit: Oh, you must be saying that Nitdroid shows half your battery is used up. That is not saying that Nitdroid is consuming half your power, as you seemed to be stating. As I said, it's flaky.

Marlon 2010-08-30 20:22

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I installed, took ages to boot from a Class 6 card and was slow when finally loaded so I uninstalled.

Awesome job but I'm too impatient it seems? ;o)

somekeystrokes 2010-08-30 20:40

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by somekeystrokes (Post 802163)
5. Actual formatting
mkdosfs /dev/mmcblk1p1
mke2fs -L NITDroid -j -m0 /dev/mmcblk1p2
Entering the last line gives me an error saying "The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?"

whre could have i gone wrong?


My phone isnt detecting my new mem card, after i got stuck above, while my pc does...ive tried formatting in fat32 and ntfs both...

pls help!

kamil365 2010-08-30 20:49

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by somekeystrokes (Post 802618)
My phone isnt detecting my new mem card, after i got stuck above, while my pc does...ive tried formatting in fat32 and ntfs both...

pls help!

Did you have back cover on the phone?

kamil365 2010-08-30 20:50

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by somekeystrokes (Post 802618)
My phone isnt detecting my new mem card, after i got stuck above, while my pc does...ive tried formatting in fat32 and ntfs both...

pls help!

Did you have back cover on the phone while mounting sd?

rolan900d 2010-08-30 21:29

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 802584)
Your battery graph still works while you are running Android? Interesting; I wonder how it does that.

The battery usage is flaky at this point. I usually have charge my battery with an external charger. With this, I had to charge with the N900 itself until it went green. Then when I booted Nitdroid all was well. So I could MOSTLY till charge with the external charger -- it only seemed to care if it was topped up with the N900 itself.

Edit: Oh, you must be saying that Nitdroid shows half your battery is used up. That is not saying that Nitdroid is consuming half your power, as you seemed to be stating. As I said, it's flaky.

No batterygraph in Android but just after running option 2 in multiboot, I can choose a boost in Mhz.
But then the drainage is huge.
Prior to install of NITdroid it wasn't an issue....

sak500 2010-08-30 21:32

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zikmir (Post 801944)
i typed sudo gain root and it tell me RD mode if u wana break ur device??????????????:confused::confused::confused: :confused:

At your current level of expertise i suggest just use Maemo.

rolan900d 2010-08-30 21:41

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sak500 (Post 802673)
At your current level of expertise i suggest just use Maemo.

First install rootsh

bsving 2010-08-30 22:45

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Well, I just had to install it (because I can :D ). I have a 2GB, three year old Sandisk sd card, and had to format it with 1MB for FAT to get the installer going.

It works like a charm. Surprisingly smooth and fast. Some hickups every now and then and drains battery like a 1kW oven, but all in all, this is great.

I guess the hard parts, telephony and power management is going to take some time??

One has to wonder. If Android was available from Nokia on the N900 (downloadable in addition to Maemo and soon to come MeeGo), what would the sales number of this device be?

istarskyypsilon 2010-08-30 22:55

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
ok got it up and running now. dualboot works nicely and there is no need to start the phone with keyboard open, even though the installer says so.

The overall speed is good, main menu is superfast, but if i open an application and therefore data is read from the memory card, its slows down extremely:mad:. There are also error messages popping up which say that application xyz doesnt react. If i click em away a couple of times, the application will run.

So i assume its due to slow memory card speed. I am using a class 4 card. Could responsiveness and app loading as well as booting speed be (significantly) inceased by using a class 6 or even class 10 card?

What sd cards do you use and how is your speed experience? We could also compare boot up time for example and find out which memory card would be best to use with NITDroid.

Deaconclgi 2010-08-30 23:28

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
To help preserve battery, dont use Live Wallpapers. I have been using NITDroid for a while and when I chose the default wallpaper, I was able to play Asphalt 5 for over an hour without charging the N900 and the battery went down to half. It was amazing!

zikmir 2010-08-30 23:39

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
im stuck on some ext3 thing while its installin... please can some one kindly help me with this. i am a very dum person when it comes to computers.. i dotn know how i got this far.. atleast i have an icon of nitdroid in the menu. please explain in very simple terms !

i have a 2gb memory card.


thanksss... !

chase15 2010-08-31 01:11

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
putting this code

"apt-get install nitdroid-installer"

and then it says

"E; Couldn't find package nitdroid-installer"

i have my devel enabled..

chase15 2010-08-31 01:51

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zikmir (Post 802760)
im stuck on some ext3 thing while its installin... please can some one kindly help me with this. i am a very dum person when it comes to computers.. i dotn know how i got this far.. atleast i have an icon of nitdroid in the menu. please explain in very simple terms !

i have a 2gb memory card.


thanksss... !

same here.... i dont know what to do with it... -.-

stlpaul 2010-08-31 02:10

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Do the partitioning and formatting step from the nitdroid manual install instructions, then run the installer again. That is how I got it going after getting stuck on ext3 step.

pinkfloyd 2010-08-31 02:34

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 802799)
putting this code

"apt-get install nitdroid-installer"

and then it says

"E; Couldn't find package nitdroid-installer"

i have my devel enabled..

Same here...it seems they removed package from repo. =(

geneven 2010-08-31 02:51

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
The Nitdroid repo was closed in favor of the extras-devel or extras-testing repo.

geneven 2010-08-31 03:41

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I made a disparraging comment about Nitdroid earlier in this thread, but as of now I am finding it pretty seductive. I bought a cheap mind-mapping program ($2) and found other goodies. I like a lot of Maemo stuff but am starting to consider switching almost permanently. My battery life seems ok. When I can make phone calls I will really be tempted.

TMavica 2010-08-31 04:01

Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
After setup, login back to Maemo, cant be overclocking
it said to reinstall kernel power flasher, i tried, but non-help..


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