Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

its still prealpha lets finish with maemo5 1st :)

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

i am not mean using hostmode on nitdroid
i mean when you use multiboot and other kernels cant flash the hostmode kernel
after i install every thing and i reboot phone i see commends and after that multiboot screen and same old kernels
i need to flash this kernel with multiboot as 4th kernel!!

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

hi pedram jaan.
toonesti ntfs mount koni?

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

for that u need to refer http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power to multiboot it but at present i dont think its gona work for you. wait for a more stable version of hostmode kernel.
try finding the path to the kernel or extract it from the .deb file and add it to the ./multiboot.d/hostmode1.item and try... but i am sure its gona give u error.. try it no harm... backup ur stuff for safe side ;)

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

pedram jan manam hamin moshkelo daram .
tu yahoot pm gozashtam .idit ro az mobilestan bardashtam
man yekarayi kardam valiii nashod
umadam image fiasco ro copy kardam tu foldere boot
bad avordam barash .itmes sakhtam tu boot menu
bad ke uno entekhab mikonam kernel gushi ba image fiasco flash mishe
man avalesh fek mikardam ke in khodesh kernele vali bad didam image fiasco hast ke bayad az khode x-term flash bishe.

badesh ba flasher 3.5 ba tanzimate marbut be fiasco kernelsh ro ba hamun image fiascoyi ke file deb ha hast flash kardam vaghti ba un flash kardam mogheye boot axe but avaz shod va ye pangoan tu gusheye chap oftad. vali be tor movaghat flashesh kardam bad ke reset kardam kernele default shod


rasti
pedram jan chera dg be mobilestan sar nemizani!?!!!


bah :D agha shoma ham injayiiiiiiiiii?! jamemon jame

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

salam agha. are dge jamemoon jame jame ;)
agha ba in kernele jadid toonetsi NTFS mount koni?

http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/hostmode/Sep%2025%202010/

bara man mishnase ntfs o vali mount nemikone!!

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

2,3 bar post bedim systeme injaro mikhabunim :D
rastesh man hanuz test nazadam.
vali usulan bayad messle unike neveshte bashi nasb beshe .
har 3 tashuno dasti download kon
bad bendaz tu memory
bad dasture ziro bezan
root
cd /home/user/MyDocs
bad be tartibi ke bud ba dastre dpkg -i nasbesh kon

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

You don't need permission, but the test is if you're asking too many questions then you should wait for the one-click solution :)

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

are makhsoosan age bekhaym farsi type konim :D;)

kernelaro nasb kardam. NTFS mishnase vali nemitoone mountesh kone.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Could you do this over pm instaed of floating this thread with posts in a language only you understand. Nobody gains from that and if we could, then do it in english, hence this site is in english...

Thank you...

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

@dousan oh cmon, dont whine. this thread is already anything except something that h-e-n developers needs, or something that helps at all.

we have been asked for
1) run the patches
2) the logs

we have 17 pages. you know how many log files we have? ive counted 3. maybe i have missed some, you know why? 17 page of pure ****

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Quick review of battery drain usage during hostmode.py activated.
Exported form BatteryGraph v.0.3.2
Note - after installation of hostmode kernel I enabled hostmode.py instantly.
SEP.25 - 16:30 to 19:05 I'm using Original battery BL-5J, after 19:05 to 21:00 o'clock using second battery.
First battery shut down the phone without notice at 19:05. with usual low warning message .

SEP.26 hostmode.py was enabled from 09:20 to 11:20 for testing, mainly using only powered HUB. logfile , it was published before on my second post, but now is uploaded on other location, more easy accessible, and no restriction.

The drainage is the same no matter does I use external powered hub or just directly supply power for single USB flash drive.

Battery discharge is around 2 hour and 20-30 minutes.

Graph - PNG on Dropbox
ZIPPED PNG with notes here

Remember this it PreAlpha yet.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

okey im just want to talk to my friend in my language thats all.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

hi to all my friends from my reign
@death :
i cant install this kernel with any way and i dont want to reflash my phone because i am working on persian pack for n900 and i dont want to lose them
so do you have installed nitdroid on yor phone?if yes so how you flash hostmode kernel for your phone?:confused:

@techno2001:hi whats up?
i cant install this kenel and i dont know why i have tested many ways even manual flash but no luck
about your Q that forum is not place for me and people how want to help people there is just place for show up:(

@kureyon:
thanks for your answer but i love to use new thing before usual people. if one click way be out any one can use it and there will not so fun in it!!:cool:;)
pardon my english is not so well:D

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Where are the moods in this thread? a bit of cleaning and the devs would have what they need! Is it so difficult? The last thread for usb host mode was left because of the same crap I see here!

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

The last thing we need is a repeat of the previous USB thread!

The best we can do is try and ignore the noise and stay focused on the topic of this thread:
(1) install alpha software
(2) report back on findings - provide logs.

I just hope muhammadAG is still finding this thread useful.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Can it also be noted that MuhammadAG also wants logs even if it DOES work, not just if it doesn't work.

Basically, if you wish to try the new kernels/etc, you should almost feel obliged to provide logs regardless of the outcome so there should be as many logs as there are active testers.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

funny, but also cruel!

this seems beyond my know how and so i wont be trying it, i just want to suggest that the people posting on here who dont know what they are doing - you are not helping anyone! infact filling the thread with "help me i cant find MyDocs" or "how do i become root" is the opposite of helping in this case, if you dont understand whats happening then just leave it alone for now. it will only lengthen the amount of time it takes to release a version you will be able to use. if you have littered as such go back through the thread and delete useless posts to make things easier for others.

and those offering help to the people who are obviously beyond it, i know it may seem rude to ignore pleas for help, especially given the community spirit, but replying to them isn't really helping them or anyone else. please ignore them (and me). people who have genuine issues are to be expected and helped of course, and you should all know the difference.

/rant over

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

same thing happened to me... thanks for this Mohammad.. now it is working for me..

have to read a lot on how to add item on multiboot because im still a noob on this...
hope this helps on noobs like with me with multiboot:

open xterm
root
*make sure you have installed leafpad
if it is blank inside('cause mine was)
add these:
ITEM_NAME="Maemo 2.6.28 Hostmode1"
ITEM_MODULES=ext3

then save..

then follow all the steps on page 1..
credits to nerfiaux and of course to Mohammad

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Didn't work with my usb stick. Here is the log

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Finally, something that could be counted as a contribution, thanks :D
I've also noticed that hostmode.py sometimes gets stuck and doesn't respond at all, which I'm assuming is because of Python sucking at handling memory, so I've started doing the app again in Qt/C++ (god python is so much easier to code in...)

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Finally it worked for me allso :D

What i did was start up the bme script, plug in flashstick when 'starting bme' showed (no light in my flashstick at this point), waited to 'connect usb now' showed and waited about 5 secs, then unpluged and repluged the flashstick and now the light blimped on the flashstick, then checked in xterm: ls /dev/sd* and got /dev/sda + /dev/sda1, then pushed mount /dev/sda1 in bme ui... And there it was the flashstick in the N900 file browser ;)

Thanks to all the devs and the ones posting there experience and tips in this thread :D

Here's my sylog (flashstick)...
Attachment 14122

e: Just did it with a external HDD powered by a netbook (i know not that OTG lol) and didn't need to unplug/replug to make it work ;)

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Hi Dousan when i replug my pendrive the light flash but i don't see files on N900 filemanager. I must click on mount /dev/sda1 first? Thank you

p.s.: when i see xterminal after click mount /dev/sda1 i see this:
mounting /dev/sda1 on /media/flash
mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /media/flash failed: no such file or directory

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

MohammadAG,

It works with my USB adpators:
- USB female to USB Female+Cable
- USB female to µUSB Male (OTG embedded ?)

Here is the logs. (I am still using your first package from the 20102201).
I still have issue on booting from kernel-hostmode1 to Kernel-Power40.
I provided some logs.

Great Job, well done !

P.S: In your new Qt Gui could we have umount button ?
Could this help the procedure to detect a new device, without having to reboot ?

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Hi,
A few things noticed during daily testings:
1.During boot process yellow led, start flashing for a few seconds - flash pattern indicate charge mode without charger connected (cold be BME load or the musb starting) is that normal behavior?
2.After restart of N900 and starting #python /root/hostmode.py, and click on "hostmode VBUS" - usb is detected and node created in /dev/sda1, disconnecting single drive and connecting other USB drive will give errors in syslog:
again reconecting the first USB drive will not work till reboot, there is 5V on the USB during all the time (these was mentioned before) but I can add next side effect:
3. After reboot and using N900 for a day without starting hostmode, then starting hosmode and trying to connect device, no longer work, until I reboot (need conformation and further testing-happened 3 times, but today after one night on is still working).
4. When USB device is recognized and mounted, without doing anything else, it has constant activity reading and writing to device (it could be tracerd indexing service, but activity last till disconnecting device after 30 minutes)
5.Few days running hostmode1 kernel logs

Attaching few logs including powertop (LCD was off during all 4 test) and udev trigger device and subsystem does not help for proper recognizing device again logs:

Adding todays log

Can someone confirm some of the things mentioned?

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Okay me Usb lights his LED up, but damn it won't mount, Syslog provided.

Also, i got an IOerror in your script, see attachement

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

In hostmode.py on line 144 witch is executing thisbut reading back result gave error? MohammadAG?
I do not know python, but it seem that for some reason it can not reach the stage where you can mount your device.
can you reboot and click hostmode vbus,connect your USB and post the result from the fallowing commands in prompt:
and your full syslog, not only part of it.
Do not play with it , as MohammadAG said you can regret if you do so.

Also if you can measure the output voltage form your USB post value here?

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Is there any good reason why the hostmode kernel has to be flashed to work with multiboot and can't just be placed in /boot/multiboot? I'm guessing that flashing it makes it the emergency/default boot - I'd prefer to keep the most conservative kernel possible for that purpose.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Thanks for help

First, i cant measure the voltage, but i assume theres a voltage because the LED goes up.

ls /dev/sd* returned : No such file or directory

ls/usr/local/sbin/i2* Returned: No such file or directory

BTW

IOerror is input output, so i think it gives the error because my flashdrive can't be read.

Only an idea maybe im talkin complete ****, but im learning java, C, linux and all the shizzle on school right now :)

Thanks again

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

I tested my external hdd some more and it turns out i can only read/copy from it not write/copy to it?

Attachment 14196

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Your HDD will not have the NTFS partition? If so, is supported only reading and not writing.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

check do you have installed i2c-tools, (extra-devel repo enabled)
Great for the log file! I'm glad that you study so many things. N900 will be great help for your developing in these areas but not limited to....

The fallowing is for all including me, you and the rest here.

AGAIN-WARM NOTE

Guys remember again what we need to do now - supplying nice logs ( preferable with explanation what was done step by step , no matter working for you or not! Which will help the guys form h-e-n to improve and make more stable release and move to next alpha or beta :) which will solve some of the issues that raising now!
Also if you can supply patches will be great. Read again first post and also joerg_rw's one here

We have opportunity to participate in testing host mode in early development stage - remember - this is not ready for general consumer. If we want to help we are welcome, but do not expect support of any kind(kindly).
Not because we do not want but this is not the goal now.
Remember that developers are also people and have their own life - let's save them couple of minutes which they will donate (I'm sure) back to developing and not wasting their time reading bull****.
May be here is good place for us to dig around and gain more knowledge and even solve the problem by ourselves!
If you are not ready to struggle with us without complaining and spamming then this is not for you yet! Go outside and have fun with some friends and look around for news patiently (which I realize that for many of you is equal to impossible).
I hope that reminding us again will bring help to this project not slowing it down - which all we want and waiting for. Thanks to all!

And now even I done what I am writing about :mad:, hopefully this :o will be last post of that kind!

P.S. Excuse me for past and future blunders,English is may second language :p

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Quick and simple question: is this method, hardware-wise, similar to the method Nokia N8 uses?

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

mmmmmmmm doubt it ??

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Finally got everything together and tried a few devices. I rebooted the N900 before each test.

With no device were there any files matching /usr/local/sbin/i2* so I don't include that information with each device.

1. Irex DR800 ebook. Worked fine though I had to mount the device manually since it appeared as /dev/sda
2. Ritmo HDD SATA 2.5" enclosure with 250GB HDD. Didn't work. The drive didn't even spin up.
3. Corsair Flash Voyager 8GB stick. Worked, created nodes /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 and correctly mounted VFAT partition /dev/sda1. I was able also to manually mount ext2 partition /dev/sda2.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Any updates regarding H.E.N??

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Please open a new thread if you want to ask new questions.

Please keep this thread for syslogs discussion only.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

No I am just asking if that is enough logs so that the developing could move to another stage because it looks like this project is going to halt again.

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Yes, there are basically enough logs now to clearly understand what's really happening when using Mohammad's method - 'details' and 'updates' to be found in edits to my last post to 'USB hostmode (coming soon)' thread.
However this doesn't mean we discourage any tester from sending new logs, especially for cases where new effects not yet reported are showing up, or new procedures were used and resulted in a successful hostmode session.

No, development isn't halted, and it doesn't help to frequently ask for 'updates'. If you want to participate in latest news of development, I suggest you join h-e-n project and start learning about technical details and contributing.

Thanks for all the nice testing, logs, and effort to keep this thread on topic and low noise :-)


cheers
jOERG

Re: [Testers needed] USB Hostmode prealpha for the N900
 

Sorry to clutter this thread :) but I was wondering whether you were also interested in logs for classes of device other than storage, eg HIDs, scanners, webcams, printers, etc. ?