maemo.org - Talk - The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Well I decided to try this Community OS update and everything went fine except for this "CTRL+ backspace" problem, and this workaround worked perfectly.

Instead of "CTRL+ backspace" I use most of the time the Camera focus short press to show Dashboard (thanks to Shortcutd) and after the workaround, it is working again.

I don't know if it is just my perception, but I find my transitions faster. I've been using Plastic Dark Black theme custom transitions for a while and they seem faster/smoother for me.

I also have this problem (ctrl+backspace, cam focusbutton not showing dashboard anymore) but Jaffas solution doesn't helped me;(
Do I have to reboot to get it working again?

I have also noticed that pressing chars or numbers, when on a desktop doesn't let me search for a contact anymore!

Edit: Ok, a reboot is necessary to bring this functionality back again!

Zekahz

2011-01-30 22:01

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

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Originally Posted by bitrocky (Post 932152)

you must reboot afterwards yeah

hawaii

2011-01-30 22:11

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

The back-ported Modest package does NOT send attachments properly, nor does it register CTRL+CR as "Send" e-mail. Whether this is can be set outside of the source (a gconf variable) is something else.

I had this same issue with the 3.x tree of Modest over 3 months ago. I think it needs to be pulled until the attachment issue is sorted.

Jaffa

2011-01-30 22:16

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

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Originally Posted by hawaii (Post 932165)

The back-ported Modest package does NOT send attachments properly,

Could you raise a bug please, with some very specific details? What kind of file type? How did you check whether it was sent? What do you mean by "properly"?

I saw something weird with an attachment the other day: sending an HTML file from Conboy didn't show an attachment in Outlook 2010 having gone through an Exchange server. However it did show up in Gmail's copy of the message it kept after sending it through Gmail's SMTP server.

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nor does it register CTRL+CR as "Send" e-mail.

Indeed. Nor the button at the bottom of the compose window to send it. I wonder if these changes were made on branches of the mainline which were never folded back?

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I had this same issue with the 3.x tree of Modest over 3 months ago.

If you're familiar with the Modest source, perhaps you'd be able to help track down the problems? :-)

Thanks,

Andrew

droitwichgas

2011-01-30 23:33

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I seem to have an issue with the browser as since the update when whether I use a shortcut from my desktop I also have the bookmarks open so I have two browers open at the same time. One showing the shortcut page the other the list of bookmarks.

Has anybodyelse had this issue?

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-30 23:59

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

michaa62

i did apt-get upgrade

should i have apt-get dist-upgrade instead?

I have almost all repos enabled,.. extras, devels, and almost everything else

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 00:44

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

never had this ctrl+backspace problem....

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 00:49

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Attachment 17365

after trying apt-get dist-upgrade,

this occured

davbost

2011-01-31 01:07

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 932232)

Attachment 17365

after trying apt-get dist-upgrade,

this occured

I'm having the same problem. bump.

festivalnut

2011-01-31 01:27

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 931941)

Though it might be worthwhile for some, it is still a public testing phase. If you are not familiar with debugging apt-get related issues or even are unwilling to reflash the whole device, simply let others get their hands dirty! There will not always be a helping hand in here interested enough.

a very sensible answer, but just so i can decide whether it may be worth testing and risking reflashes, perhaps you could humour me with a few bullet points? ;)

kingoddball

2011-01-31 01:56

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Installing now.
I will put it thru it's paces! I am a vicious user of N900 - Anything that can ruin this, I will find it! :D

Edit: Why on earth is it asking me to connect to Nokia PC Suite!!?? I don't have, nor do I want to use it. Can this be done without this?

i.e: use apt-get upgrade/update rather than HAM?!

Mentalist Traceur

2011-01-31 02:14

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I don't recall if this is exactly like something I've run across a few times in my N900 use, but I've often noticed that certain errors that apt-get throws are actually resolvable by a simple reboot. Not sure if this is the case here right now, though.

frostbyte

2011-01-31 02:42

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

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Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 932249)

+1

I'm nowhere near my computer and PC Suite but I must complete ze upgrade now! Maemo Community OS FTW!

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 03:01

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1 Attachment(s)

tried to run apt-get update...

this occured too:

Attachment 17366

something to do with the mozilla catalogue?

i tried enabling-disabling the catalogues in HAM... I think I did it with FAM too... does it help?
edit: disabled mozilla catalogue. solved

rmerren

2011-01-31 03:18

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I am definitely seeing an improvement in modest email. Freezing and crashing problems from the 1.3 release have gone away. I think that these were affecting the whole system--causing some general sluggishness and freezing things briefly when a new email came in. Responsiveness is back to the right-after-flash levels, even though no flash was involved in this upgrade. So I am guessing some memory leaks or runaway processes may have been cleared up in modest.

I am only about 36 hours into running with this upgrade (with no reboot) and I have not seen any performance or email issues at all. I'll keep looking for problems for the next few days, but kudos to the SSU team!

kingoddball

2011-01-31 03:41

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

I just used apt-get upgrade. working fine, not asking for Suite.

Edit: Did not work.
Do you need Nokia PC Suite to install this? This is not good.

amritpal2489

2011-01-31 04:42

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works gr8.. no problem at all till now....

kingoddball

2011-01-31 05:18

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how do we install this!? HAM keeps sayign to plug into Nokia PC Suite!
i can't. dont't have it. don't want it.
how can we do this without pc suite?
i done apt-get update/upgrade. but it is still in ham saying i need to update it.

Gusse

2011-01-31 05:45

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 932215)

All known bugs of CSSU can be checked from Bugzilla
Browser bug is #11829 (=desktop internet bookmark problem)
Vote bugs there.

Mentalist Traceur

2011-01-31 05:54

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Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 932306)

Sounds like the thing it says when normal SSUs don't have enough rootfs space to unpack themselves.

How much rootfs space do you have?

NightShift79

2011-01-31 05:56

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Desktop Web shortcuts doesn't work right anymore.
If I click my desktop web shortcut it opens the bookmarks in front and the actual webpage in the back. but the webpage in the back is not loading until I get it to the front and hit enter again....
any fix to espect?

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 06:08

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hmmm... @nightshift79

i didn't face this particular one... tried clicking on my web shortcut on the desktop.. turned out fine

reboot maybe?

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 06:12

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here's a request though:

MohammadAG or other great developers out there:

Can somehow merge this latest hildon-desktop to incorporate desature instead of blur? Got so used to being able to see the back conversations and the things at the back, now that it's blurred out, kinda irks me a little bit... hehehehehe.. pretty pleaseeeee

:):):):)

StocChr

2011-01-31 06:16

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i have two problems...

1. the desktop internet bookmark problem
if i have one browser open i.e. tal.maemo.org and i tap on the desktop, only one window open with the webpage

and

2. the ctrl + backspace problem ( doesnt work anymore )

cheers

ossipena

2011-01-31 06:20

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 932306)

1. you don't have enough free space in rootfs

2. you have conflicting packages (quake 3 maybe?)

droitwichgas

2011-01-31 06:39

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Originally Posted by StocChr (Post 932331)

the solution to 2 is in the thread but not sure about the shotcut problem.

Mentalist Traceur

2011-01-31 06:44

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 932330)

Not everyone likes only getting desaturation. Please don't just think about your preferences when suggestion features for something that will be system-wide and is attached to packages useful for almost all users. (Whenever I try to suggest a feature request, I also attempt to express how it should be made a user-changeable settings option.)

What would be nice is if someone made Hildon Desktop not disable desaturation even if you disabled blurring. Then you could change what you wanted in the transitions.ini file, or with whatever app edited transitions.ini for you, including completely disabling blur but keeping desaturation. (As is, you could probably lower blur to almost nothing, without completely disabling it, allowing a slightly blurred-but-not-horribly-so effect.)

kingoddball

2011-01-31 06:54

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I have 49.3MB left.
How much do I generally need?
I have heard that if I turn off extra's devel/testing repos that free's up about 10MB.
I can shift my kernels (multiboot) to MyDocs for now :) (just leave omap)

Mentalist Traceur

2011-01-31 06:58

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Hmmm, no that's probably not it then. I have like... 16-ish MB free? I think. It went under 19 recently. So I have way less than you and it updated fine for me.

So it's probably something else, and I am of little use in that regard.

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 07:08

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 932338)

erm... well, didn't mean to sound selfish or anything but I thought like he could just provide a patch or something for JUST those who are interested right? I mean, if those who don't like it can choose not to download the patch? Also probably maybe provide it as an option like in the 'display' category in settings?

that's all. I like how you suggested a way to toggle blur to almost nothing meaning that I can adjust it to how i like it... whether it be saturation or blur

Alastor89

2011-01-31 08:09

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

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Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 932280)

I just used apt-get upgrade. working fine, not asking for Suite.

Edit: Did not work.
Do you need Nokia PC Suite to install this? This is not good.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=49

jerryfreak

2011-01-31 08:39

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is there a changelog for these updates?

i will say modest seems to be flying relative to how fast it normally runs!

does this mean we will see proper imap-idle one of these days?

jerryfreak

2011-01-31 08:56

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also of note, this seems to have broken my SMTP, i now get error 'unable to connect to SMTP server', dont know where to go to troubleshoot. ive tried changing from ssl to no security and it still doesnt work. can someone walk me thru reinstalling old modest via terminal?

droitwichgas

2011-01-31 09:05

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 932337)

the solution to 2 is in the thread but not sure about the shotcut problem.

Is there a solution to the bookmark problem yet as I can't see any mention of it in this thread?

Not a show stopper but if there is a "fix" I would like to try it.

StocChr

2011-01-31 09:24

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Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 932404)

Is there a solution to the bookmark problem yet as I can't see any mention of it in this thread?

Not a show stopper but if there is a "fix" I would like to try it.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11829#c1

there is a fix described, but i don't know how to change the hd-bookmark-shortcut file

Rob1n

2011-01-31 09:50

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates

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Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 932389)

is there a changelog for these updates?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog

Rob1n

2011-01-31 09:57

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Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 931873)

Attachment 17341

I realised after installing this update from the CSSU, and after fixing a few things i.e. FAM, uninstalling desaturize desktop (SOB SOB SOB), and having needed to reinstall certain things that were automatically removed by autoremover (glad that it could resolve), suddenly, I realised there were many apps that were 'kept back' and not upgraded...

how to work around this or is it not important?

Most of that's the qtmobility stuff - doing an apt-get install on one of those will probably bring all of them in. The new libsdl-mixer1.2 has been floating around for a long time - I've left it uninstalled for now, as I'm not happy that it's actually a working new version.

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 10:48

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Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 932431)

this worked. thanks

Dark_Angel85

2011-01-31 10:59

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ok... it has been installed for a while now, needed to just fix a few things i.e. FAM, and the autoremover... no desktop shortcut problems, shortcutkey problems, browser issues that were brought up.

everything is now A-OK

:)

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